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M9 motorway (general thread)

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    #512
    Autosport
    Registered Users Posts: 22,262 ✭✭✭✭Autosport


    Going to be closed again this week. What the hell is wrong with the M9?


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    #513
    SoupyNorman
    Registered Users Posts: 4,257 ✭✭✭SoupyNorman


    Autosport wrote: »
    Going to be closed again this week. What the hell is wrong with the M9?

    I think they're re-painting the road markings so makes sense to close the road and complete the work at night.


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    #514
    Trick of the Tail
    Registered Users Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Trick of the Tail


    A Garda checkpoint on a motorway?

    That's what was on the M9 yesterday around lunchtime north of Carlow. Chaos. Loads of Garda cars, armed response, one lane coned off, trucks pulled into lay by.

    I wonder what that was about?


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    #515
    rameire
    Registered Users Posts: 4,152 ✭✭✭rameire


    Trick of the Tail wrote: »
    A Garda checkpoint on a motorway?

    That's what was on the M9 yesterday around lunchtime north of Carlow. Chaos. Loads of Garda cars, armed response, one lane coned off, trucks pulled into lay by.

    I wonder what that was about?

    its done alot, on all the motorways.
    its well controlled, well signposted, and they do it to check, tax, insurance, nct, social, potential thieves, the rsa work with them to check road safety of trucks vans and green diesel.

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    #516
    D Trent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,341 ✭✭✭D Trent


    rameire wrote: »
    its done alot, on all the motorways.
    its well controlled, well signposted, and they do it to check, tax, insurance, nct, social, potential thieves, the rsa work with them to check road safety of trucks vans and green diesel.

    oh i agree with you there people just seem to have a blase attitude to the safety of poor green diesel


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    #517
    ongarboy
    Registered Users Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    D Trent wrote: »
    oh i agree with you there people just seem to have a blase attitude to the safety of poor green diesel

    It's not just safety checks. It's also revenue and customs exercises, stopping those driving commercial vehicles to determine if they're also on the dole or those illegally using non taxed tractor (green) diesel.

    Reported in the Indo today.

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/garda-social-welfare-inspectors-and-revenue-officers-all-present-at-multioperation-road-checkpoint-35093284.html


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    #518
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    D Trent wrote: »
    oh i agree with you there people just seem to have a blase attitude to the safety of poor green diesel

    Isn't green diesel radio-active now?


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    #519
    Trick of the Tail
    Registered Users Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Trick of the Tail


    32 on the spot fines? That was worth the manpower then.

    Including two armed response units to control those dangerous vrt-dogers.

    Aside from a suspicion that doing this is illegal, it's totally heavy-handed, police-state, and a waste of resources.

    Not to mention discommoding all of us who were using the motorway to try to get somewhere in good time by causing a huge tailback - itself dangerous.

    Welcome to Russia.


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    #520
    BelfastVanMan
    Registered Users Posts: 667 ✭✭✭BelfastVanMan


    You mean "welcome to America", surely...?


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    #521
    Jamie2k9
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    Was impressed with the facilities at AG in Paulstown. No sign of anything happening south of Athy still?


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    #522
    iseegirls
    Registered Users Posts: 3,016 ✭✭✭iseegirls


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    Was impressed with the facilities at AG in Paulstown. No sight of anything happening south of Athy still?

    Yep pulled in there a few weeks ago, and was amazed at the size of the place, and the amount of places to eat. But I still don't think it's being signposted great. There's so many people I talk to, who don't even know about it. Is there a reason why there's not as much advertising about this on the motorway?


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    #523
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users Posts: 10,709 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    iseegirls wrote: »
    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    Was impressed with the facilities at AG in Paulstown. No sight of anything happening south of Athy still?

    Yep pulled in there a few weeks ago, and was amazed at the size of the place, and the amount of places to eat. But I still don't think it's being signposted great. There's so many people I talk to, who don't even know about it. Is there a reason why there's not as much advertising about this on the motorway?

    Didn't notice much either but wasn't looking to be fair as I knew about it. Agree lots of places to eat!


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    #524
    tonc76
    Registered Users Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭tonc76


    iseegirls wrote: »
    Yep pulled in there a few weeks ago, and was amazed at the size of the place, and the amount of places to eat. But I still don't think it's being signposted great. There's so many people I talk to, who don't even know about it. Is there a reason why there's not as much advertising about this on the motorway?

    There are brown tourist signs on both M9 approaches to the junction but they show the cup of tea, knife and fork, WC etc. Erecting private signs (i.e. AG) on the national road network is not legally permitted.


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    #525
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users Posts: 10,709 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    tonc76 wrote: »
    iseegirls wrote: »
    Yep pulled in there a few weeks ago, and was amazed at the size of the place, and the amount of places to eat. But I still don't think it's being signposted great. There's so many people I talk to, who don't even know about it. Is there a reason why there's not as much advertising about this on the motorway?

    There are brown tourist signs on both M9 approaches to the junction but they show the cup of tea, knife and fork, WC etc. Erecting private signs (i.e. AG) on the national road network is not legally permitted.

    They could use bwck of lorry in a feild near by loke another company is on the route.

    AG have done it at other locations.


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    #526
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users Posts: 10,709 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    tonc76 wrote: »
    iseegirls wrote: »
    Yep pulled in there a few weeks ago, and was amazed at the size of the place, and the amount of places to eat. But I still don't think it's being signposted great. There's so many people I talk to, who don't even know about it. Is there a reason why there's not as much advertising about this on the motorway?

    There are brown tourist signs on both M9 approaches to the junction but they show the cup of tea, knife and fork, WC etc. Erecting private signs (i.e. AG) on the national road network is not legally permitted.

    They could use back of lorry in a field near by like another company is on the route close to the junction.

    AG have done it at other locations.


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    #527
    tonc76
    Registered Users Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭tonc76


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    They could use back of lorry in a field near by like another company is on the route close to the junction.

    AG have done it at other locations.

    They certainly could but a lot of those "lorry signs" have been legally challenged by both local and national authorities as they have no planning permission.


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    #528
    radharc
    Registered Users Posts: 966 ✭✭✭radharc


    tonc76 wrote: »
    They certainly could but a lot of those "lorry signs" have been legally challenged by both local and national authorities as they have no planning permission.

    Challenged but ultimately allowed to remain. They don't need planning permission.


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    #529
    barneygumble99
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    There's a Lorry with applegreen on it northbound for definite and I'm almost sure there's one southbound also.


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    #530
    D Trent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,341 ✭✭✭D Trent


    However bad AG might be I think the 100% Irishowned fast food outlet is worse at this craic
    M6 and M7 prime examples


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    #531
    fricatus
    Registered Users Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭fricatus


    Motorway closed northbound just short of J10 (Knocktopher) on account of a crash. Couldn't see much without rubbernecking (was heading for Waterford myself), but both lanes were blocked and the carriageway was at a standstill. Hopefully no injuries or worse.


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    #532
    Autosport
    Registered Users Posts: 22,262 ✭✭✭✭Autosport


    fricatus wrote: »
    Motorway closed northbound just short of J10 (Knocktopher) on account of a crash. Couldn't see much without rubbernecking (was heading for Waterford myself), but both lanes were blocked and the carriageway was at a standstill. Hopefully no injuries or worse.

    They said on kilkennypeople.com that it was a tractor and a lorry in the accident.


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    #533
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users Posts: 10,709 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Wasn't aware of the problems with Kilcullen services, appears Topaz got the contract to run 3 services from TII however AppleGreen and Top has dragged the tender info a long running legal dispute.

    Lucky if any building work starts in 2017 at this rate.


    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/maintaining-idle-motorway-services-costing-15-000-a-month-1.2779044


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    #534
    OldMrBrennan83
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    #535
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users Posts: 10,709 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Patww79 wrote: »
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    Really, taught this was shelved since AppleGreen had once at J7, no way is there room for 3 so close. J5 was Topaz as well.


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    #536
    road_high
    Registered Users Posts: 19,410 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    Really, taught this was shelved since AppleGreen had once at J7, no way is there room for 3 so close. J5 was Topaz as well.

    Agreed. I think Paulstown is least viable of the 3 but of course it's been established first. J5 has the N80 which is an extremely busy road and the halfway point between WD and Dublin on the M9.
    Business for all 3 within 55km of each other?? Seems crazy to me anyhow.


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    #537
    marno21
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    One at J5 seems to be the best location seeing as it's also on the N80 and is well placed for a Waterford-Dublin trip.

    The one at Kilcullen would want to be opening soon, so too the M6 and M11 ones. Some waste of space and money lying idle for a few years.


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    #538
    road_high
    Registered Users Posts: 19,410 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    marno21 wrote: »
    One at J5 seems to be the best location seeing as it's also on the N80 and is well placed for a Waterford-Dublin trip.

    The one at Kilcullen would want to be opening soon, so too the M6 and M11 ones. Some waste of space and money lying idle for a few years.

    I don't think 3 services is viable on the M9 motorway. The traffic volumes are not staggering (similar to the other MIUs actually) and you can do Waterford to Dublin in under an hour and a half. Stopping is not even a necessity. Two strategically placed services are all that's warranted or needed.


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    #539
    road_high
    Registered Users Posts: 19,410 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    Wasn't aware of the problems with Kilcullen services, appears Topaz got the contract to run 3 services from TII however AppleGreen and Top has dragged the tender info a long running legal dispute.

    Lucky if any building work starts in 2017 at this rate.


    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/maintaining-idle-motorway-services-costing-15-000-a-month-1.2779044

    Those costs are infuriating. The legal system here is a bloody joke. The only winners here will be the legal profession and as usual the taxpayer will be clobbered. The loosing tenders should be told to do one. Why have a tender process if they can't abide by the outcome.


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    #540
    radharc
    Registered Users Posts: 966 ✭✭✭radharc


    Apparently the services at Junction 5 will be open next month, I wonder will TII reconsider the Kilcullen services at this stage, surely better for all concerned if they were to pull the plug on it now?

    Jobs Boost For Carlow


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    #541
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users Posts: 10,709 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    radharc wrote: »
    Apparently the services at Junction 5 will be open next month, I wonder will TII reconsider the Kilcullen services at this stage, surely better for all concerned if they were to pull the plug on it now?

    Jobs Boost For Carlow

    After spending a fortune building the overpass I don't think so but it's crazey to have services at J2,5 & 7, yet nothing near the end especially for those who are coming off N24/25 and don't want to go into Waterford.

    AppleGreen would only be delighted to operate J2 and current J7 with Topaz in between.


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