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Another Trip to Intershoot

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  • 18-09-2010 12:16pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭


    yesterday I made the journey to (ta-rone) to make a few purchases with Mr Intershoot.

    Whilst I was there I said to myself I'd spread the word on what equipment was available there.
    As a picture paints a thousand words, here is a flavour of what is available and keenly priced
    And for you Remington Shotgun owners out there €25 for choke tubes ;)
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    Barrels for you .22lr boyo's
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    And Yes i got Homemade Cake, Buns and as much coffee as I could drink ;)

    RFD's take note!
    The way to a Hunters heart is to treat him right!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭pedroeibar1


    He must have given you a lot of cake. I have no particular axe to grind; times are tough enough for dealers here without sending business “Up North.” I’ve no problem with competition or with obtaining value for money. However, there is a balance to be maintained.


    For example, Tesco periodically sells petrol at cost price as part of a promotion to get more grocery business. Result Part I–garages in surrounding villages cannot compete and eventually close down. Result Part II – locals now have to drive a round trip of 40kms to get a can of petrol for the lawnmower and have get the AA if the car does not start.


    If I get a late invite to go fowling and am stuck for a few boxes of No. 4’s I have found that my local dealer always will oblige and will look after me (‘Call round to the house, I’ll bring some home with me’) . If I bring my general business away from him, he could (rightly) tell me where to go. If enough people take their business away from him he will close down.




    Cake or no cake, I'm not going there because a cleaning kit is 25p cheaper. Nor do I see a need to post it here.


    And it’s “treat” BTW, not “threat.”
    P.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    A local dealer to me enquired into buying HPS and won't "as the margins are too small". If more lads bought from him he could buy in more and the margins might be better?

    Another local dealer reckons "getting paperwork to legally import ammo from the North is a nightmare".

    How are you doing it so easily?

    And for your information all the RFD's here in ROI I deal with treat me right as did Intershoot when I dealt with him.

    Our local dealers are under serious pressure. Why don't you ask your local dealer to stock HPS? I have, and I'm trying to get more lads interested so it makes it worthwhile for the dealer to get it. Then we and he will all win.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    A local dealer to me enquired into buying HPS and won't "as the margins are too small". If more lads bought from him he could buy in more and the margins might be better?

    Another local dealer reckons "getting paperwork to legally import ammo from the North is a nightmare".

    How are you doing it so easily?

    And for your information all the RFD's here I deal with treat me right !

    your dealer must have a lot of ammo in the stores.

    Fill out form, e-mail it off receive it get ammo. Takes ~1 week to ten days total


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    your dealer must have a lot of ammo in the stores.

    What does that have to do with it :confused:
    Fill out form, e-mail it off receive it get ammo. Takes ~1 week to ten days total

    Enlighten me so on this procedure please ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    He must have given you a lot of cake. I have no particular axe to grind; times are tough enough for dealers here without sending business “Up North.” I’ve no problem with competition or with obtaining value for money. However, there is a balance to be maintained


    If I get a late invite to go fowling and am stuck for a few boxes of No. 4’s I have found that my local dealer always will oblige and will look after me (‘Call round to the house, I’ll bring some home with me’) . If I bring my general business away from him, he could (rightly) tell me where to go. If enough people take their business away from him he will close down.




    Cake or no cake, I'm not going there because a cleaning kit is 25p cheaper. Nor do I see a need to post it here.



    P.

    P
    I have spent a lot of money here, I could not get the ammo "I" wanted here.
    I tried, nobody would bother getting it for me.
    I spend a small fortune here on firearms, scopes, gear etc.
    I've given many dealers the price of their dinner.

    Never once was I even offered a cup of tea in most of them.
    I was shocked when I was treated as a family friend in the North.

    When I have spent close on €15000 at a guesstimate on stuff relating to firearms down the years.

    I Always support local enterprise. if you notice today i have advertised 3 home grown business as opposed to Sportingservices.co.uk


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    What does that have to do with it :confused:

    he wants to keep selling you ammo at "his" prices.

    Enlighten me so on this procedure please ;)
    http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Pages/Individuals#import_eu


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    That covers importation, correct? I reckon, maybe incorrectly, that covers the ammo coming into the Republic. How do you cover the Northern part of the journey with the ammo licence wise ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    That covers importation, correct? I reckon, maybe incorrectly, that covers the ammo coming into the Republic. How do you cover the Northern part of the journey with the ammo licence wise ?

    he escorts you to the border crossing. Then he hands it to you.
    A bit awkward but doable


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    :cool:


  • Registered Users Posts: 119 ✭✭Liam_D


    Is this a shop you can visit or just an online store, if it's the former where abouts is it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    Liam_D wrote: »
    Is this a shop you can visit or just an online store, if it's the former where abouts is it?

    Both, but mostly online

    http://www.intershoot.co.uk/

    he specializes in .22lr and HPS, but is an agent for Remington and a few others


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Just to pip in here.

    Local dealers would be best served looking after their locals.

    Was talking to a lad today at the range. Was proudly showing off his new purchase. (For privacy sake i won't name him or the dealer). His "friendly" local dealer that he has dealt with for years told him the rifle was "the last in the country" and will not be more in for a few months. The lad, obviously keen to get his desired rifle, put a deposit and got a substitution. Haggled the price down by €150 and walked away with his rifle.

    When he told me the "deal" price he paid i informed him of the price i have seen them in 4 other dealers and the fact that 3 of these dealers had 1 - 4 of these rifles in stock NOW. He was a mixture of gutted and disapointed. Both with the avaialbility/price elsewhere and the fact that the dealer he had spent years supporting by buying from had screwed him. I was gutted to have told him the news. It was as though i kicked him square in the nuts.

    I always buy local or Irish, i currently have a new rifle and stock being built by Irish suppliers, but only when possible or when it works out to my benefit. At the end of the day i'm the customer and the dealer should be working for my business. Too many (not all) dealers have gotten so used to people having money to spare. So much so that still to this day in the current climate they make you feel as though you are privileged that they acknowledge your existance and make you feel grateful they will sell to you. This has to end and if they cannot adapt to bad times like we all have to then tough.

    Now as mentioned this is not always the case with all dealers. I surround myself with 2 - 3 dependable dealers. Lads that are salt of the earth and do me the best possible deal, or more to the point and has happened, will take a loss (or break even) simply to keep me happy and as a return customer. It will pay them in the long run. In the last 3 years i have been dealing with an RFD that i had no previous dealings with. He has done so much for me and helped so much that i have dropped about €15,000 with him not to mention referring the 'ould fella, friends and family.

    Moral of the rant is reward those that value your custom, those that do not do so will suffer by their own unwillingness to adapt/change.

    Bunnyshooter the process for importing ammo is easy as sin. Follow the link Tackleberrywho set out, and if you want to collect from the shop a NI visitors pass will be needed. You can get this from the PSNI website. In relation to any RFD that will not do it due to "nightmare" paperwork simply strikes me as though they don't want to be a***d. I tried asking a few of mine to get in a "sample" quantity. Only one tried it and has now got a good trade going in HPS ammo. The other 2 are simply loosing out, but thats their choice. Not going to force the issue.
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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    Any .223 ammo Tack?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,174 ✭✭✭vixdname


    P
    I have spent a lot of money here, I could not get the ammo "I" wanted here.
    I tried, nobody would bother getting it for me.
    I spend a small fortune here on firearms, scopes, gear etc.
    I've given many dealers the price of their dinner.

    Never once was I even offered a cup of tea in most of them.
    I was shocked when I was treated as a family friend in the North.

    When I have spent close on €15000 at a guesstimate on stuff relating to firearms down the years.

    I Always support local enterprise. if you notice today i have advertised 3 home grown business as opposed to Sportingservices.co.uk

    Was that a dig at me Tack ? It was I who recommended sportingservices.co.uk today and you know that.
    I recommended them to Norwayviking simply because I didnt know of anywhere that he could buy an AI stock within the republic of Ireland.
    While you on the other hand went north to purchase items that could be easily bought on our side of the border, theres a difference and lets face it Tack, sportingservices.co.uk were a much better recommendation to NorwayViking then your one where you told him to check out:

    http://www.stockysstocks.com/servlet/the-108/mcmillan-a5-stock-tactical/Detail

    Which is an "AMERICAN" Supplier - Not Irish and the weird thing is is you also told NorwayViking that YOU know some "Top Class Target Shooters" that use stocks from the above AMERICAN supplier - but on the bottom of their shipping info page they state that they "DONT SHIP OUTSIDE THE US" Funny how the shooters you know managed to get theres ? :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    Vegeta wrote: »
    Any .223 ammo Tack?

    yes, post results later


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    vixdname wrote: »
    Was that a dig at me Tack ? It was I who recommended sportingservices.co.uk today and you know that.
    I recommended them to Norwayviking simply because I didnt know of anywhere that he could buy an AI stock within the republic of Ireland.
    While you on the other hand went north to purchase items that could be easily bought on our side of the border, theres a difference and lets face it Tack, sportingservices.co.uk were a much better recommendation to NorwayViking then your one where you told him to check out:

    http://www.stockysstocks.com/servlet/the-108/mcmillan-a5-stock-tactical/Detail

    Which is an "AMERICAN" Supplier - Not Irish and the weird thing is is you also told NorwayViking that YOU know some "Top Class Target Shooters" that use stocks from the above AMERICAN supplier - but on the bottom of their shipping info page they state that they "DONT SHIP OUTSIDE THE US" Funny how the shooters you know managed to get theres ? :D

    It was most certainly not a dig.
    In regards to sportingservices it was the first name that came into my head.
    Just for the record AICS stocks can be bought here. I've held two in my hands in the past two weeks, I've seen the stock apart and I have completely gone off them as a result.

    I also showed a link to Andy Walshs stocks which are of extremely high quality.
    And Edi Graef PSE stocks, both made in Ireland!
    I said correctly that many of teh top shooters in the country have Stocks made by these individuals.

    i went to the North BECAUSE I could not get any ammo I wanted here Simples.

    If they sold it I'd buy it.
    I'd prefer not to have to travel 600 miles for a few boxes of ammo ;)

    in regards to the American stocks, RFD's can get them. I have seen several of all makes and shapes lately!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 766 ✭✭✭Norwayviking


    vixdname wrote: »
    Was that a dig at me Tack ? It was I who recommended sportingservices.co.uk today and you know that.
    I recommended them to Norwayviking simply because I didnt know of anywhere that he could buy an AI stock within the republic of Ireland.
    While you on the other hand went north to purchase items that could be easily bought on our side of the border, theres a difference and lets face it Tack, sportingservices.co.uk were a much better recommendation to NorwayViking then your one where you told him to check out:

    http://www.stockysstocks.com/servlet/the-108/mcmillan-a5-stock-tactical/Detail

    Which is an "AMERICAN" Supplier - Not Irish and the weird thing is is you also told NorwayViking that YOU know some "Top Class Target Shooters" that use stocks from the above AMERICAN supplier - but on the bottom of their shipping info page they state that they "DONT SHIP OUTSIDE THE US" Funny how the shooters you know managed to get theres ? :D

    Hey vix and tackleberry i just wanna say thanks for all the help.
    I think vix,that tackle only posted it to help me,something i really appreciate,and he also found me a local dealer here in Ireland,so dont have to go through the hassle of gettin it from the US.I know i can easily get it in norway,but its so much more expensive there.
    When it comes to ammo,i also have the chance of reloading in Norway,and bring the ammo back here,something i am considering since its all about money at the end of the day.


  • Registered Users Posts: 119 ✭✭Liam_D


    Could you tell me where it is tackleberry? I'm in Tyrone myself and couldn't mind some cleaning and reloading gear. Also looking for Lapua .222


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    Liam_D wrote: »
    Could you tell me where it is tackleberry? I'm in Tyrone myself and couldn't mind some cleaning and reloading gear. Also looking for Lapua .222

    Dungannon


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    Dungannon

    www.intershoot.co.uk is the website Liam


  • Registered Users Posts: 119 ✭✭Liam_D


    Cheers guys must make a visit next time I'm going to Moy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26 SAKO_FTR


    It's been a while since I was down but doesn't Jim in the Midlands stock HPS?
    I remember seeing it posted on boards


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 274 ✭✭sharky0922


    SAKO_FTR wrote: »
    It's been a while since I was down but doesn't Jim in the Midlands stock HPS?
    I remember seeing it posted on boards
    yes he have, mostly in the shop,sometimes with him on th range.
    but if you call him day before , he will bring you what you need.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    sharky0922 wrote: »
    yes he have, mostly in the shop,sometimes with him on th range.
    but if you call him day before , he will bring you what you need.

    He only stocks Target HPS AFAIK, The Stuff I got was made specificially to my requirements.

    It was the first time HPS made 125 grain .308's as they mostly specialize in Target ammo for .308.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭pedroeibar1


    ezridax wrote: »
    Just to pip in here.

    Local dealers would be best served looking after their locals.

    Was talking to a lad today at the range. Was proudly showing off his new purchase. (For privacy sake i won't name him or the dealer). His "friendly" local dealer that he has dealt with for years told him the rifle was "the last in the country" and will not be more in for a few months. The lad, obviously keen to get his desired rifle, put a deposit and got a substitution. Haggled the price down by €150 and walked away with his rifle.

    When he told me the "deal" price he paid i informed him of the price i have seen them in 4 other dealers and the fact that 3 of these dealers had 1 - 4 of these rifles in stock NOW. He was a mixture of gutted and disapointed. Both with the avaialbility/price elsewhere and the fact that the dealer he had spent years supporting by buying from had screwed him. I was gutted to have told him the news. It was as though i kicked him square in the nuts.

    I always buy local or Irish, i currently have a new rifle and stock being built by Irish suppliers, but only when possible or when it works out to my benefit. At the end of the day i'm the customer and the dealer should be working for my business. Too many (not all) dealers have gotten so used to people having money to spare. So much so that still to this day in the current climate they make you feel as though you are privileged that they acknowledge your existance and make you feel grateful they will sell to you. This has to end and if they cannot adapt to bad times like we all have to then tough.

    Now as mentioned this is not always the case with all dealers. I surround myself with 2 - 3 dependable dealers. Lads that are salt of the earth and do me the best possible deal, or more to the point and has happened, will take a loss (or break even) simply to keep me happy and as a return customer. It will pay them in the long run. In the last 3 years i have been dealing with an RFD that i had no previous dealings with. He has done so much for me and helped so much that i have dropped about €15,000 with him not to mention referring the 'ould fella, friends and family.

    Moral of the rant is reward those that value your custom, those that do not do so will suffer by their own unwillingness to adapt/change.

    Balanced post Ezri, but I think you miss the point on a couple of issues.


    Your mate at the range did not do his homework and just like anyone going to buy a car, a fridge or a TV (why should a rifle be different?) he got bad value because he did not do his homework and was unprepared. He was smart enough to be able to haggle the price down by 150, was happy to conclude the deal and now has a moan? Caveat emptor/buyer beware. He should grow up. The salesman’s job is to sell; some take a longer term view, but not all. Agreed, that salesguy’s quick deal has lost him a customer, not because of the deal but because your mate now realizes he was taken for a ride. Nobody likes that.

    Yes, some retailers have got an attitude problem, but it is the customer that created it. During the Tiger Years the number of ‘I want it NOW’ customers was a PITA and we all know of cases – and laughed at them - where fools and money were parted all too easily. Don't get me going on that topic!

    There is no point in a dealer of anything selling at a loss or break-even; there has to be something in it for everyone – value for me, a bit of profit for the dealer. OK, if you send in your ‘auld fella’ or family, you can pay at cost but they will have to pay a bit of a premium to pay the dealer’s overheads – that’s business, otherwise no dealer can survive. If I’m buying something ‘expensive’ I research it, find out what the prices + options are and do a deal that suits me. If I want to buy a new gun I will find out what is the best price on offer and ask my RFD if he wants to match it – if not I buy elsewhere. That way is what business is all about.


    Regards,
    Pedro.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 28,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cass


    Your mate at the range did not do his homework and just like anyone going to buy a car, a fridge or a TV (why should a rifle be different?) he got bad value because he did not do his homework............

    Agreed. I never buy straight away. I always shop around. He didn't and literally, paid the price.

    He was smart enough to be able to haggle the price down by 150, was happy to conclude the deal and now has a moan?

    Also true, but when dealing with certain dealer for years you come to trust them and their word. His mistake, but it was naive on his part and pure greed on the dealers.
    He should grow up.

    Everyone is entitled to moan. I was faced with a situation like this years ago. Was told...... " its the last one in stock and no-one else has one. It'll be months before anyone will have another one". I told the dealer i'm in no hurry to sell away and i'll look again in a few months. Got a call 2 days later and the rifle suddenly was cheaper and available in different stocks. Told the dealer to keep it and bought elsewhere. But then again i'm a stubborn f**ker, if someone tries to milk/screw me i never darken their door and advise all others to avoid them. Word of mouth can build or destroy a business.
    Yes, some retailers have got an attitude problem, but it is the customer that created it. During the Tiger Years the number of ‘I want it NOW’ customers was a PITA and we all know of cases – and laughed at them - where fools and money were parted all too easily. Don't get me going on that topic!

    Nor me. Its the same with car dealers and most other businesses. They are acting like there is no recession, then they wonder why their companies are folding.:confused:
    There is no point in a dealer of anything selling at a loss or break-even;

    I think you've taken me up wrong on this point. One dealer inparticular has always "minded" me. He has given the best deal possible, good value for money and ONCE, a deal where he broke even. By that he covered his minimum costs and the firearm cost me very little if anything over retail. He done this because of my previous custom. As a result i have left many thousands in his shop, so has my father, and i refer all family, friends and anyone asking me for dealer opinions to him. The same dealer bought in ammunition that i wanted for me alone. He buys it by the batch and i buy it in blocks. As it runs low he orders more. He done this off his own bat, to keep a customer happy. THAT is a dealer.



    There is no doubt the lad i'm refering to has been stung nor the fact that he did not do his homework. As you know though, he knew his mistake and i was not going to kick the chap when he was down. Dealers can blame Joe public for the way we as customers demanded items previously, however the same applies in reverse. If the dealers got their attitudes from people "demanding" certain firearms regardless of the costs when times were good it means they had to adapt and change then. So why can they not do so again now that times are hard. Firearm prices and other items have not really come down, but the sport seems recession proof (to a degree). I mean lads are still buying, not in the quantities they were, but still buying all the same. Lads are still getting custom builds as is evident by the work load of John Greene and Fergal White.

    If dealers can take a "hit" and encourage customers to return and possibly bring along new customers they will ride this storm well. If they are in it for a quick sale with no regard to return business they will fail and IMO they deserve it. As does any business/company not willing to "bend" a little.

    Ez.
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    Ezri, as you know I always promote dealers who treat me well.

    I paid a lot out over the years.
    I've learned a lot, every days a school day though.

    A cup of coffee is a very simple act for a dealer to do, after all we pay for the pot ;)

    I never will say this lad is brilliant "unless" I BELIEVE they are ;)

    Pedro,
    At some point Dealers will have to cop on.
    G&B would not even take a phone call off me even though I have owned 4 Remington's all out of their shop!
    I have heard others have been treated differently, as they were the Big players.

    if i make the effort to drive to a dealers on a cold wet night in the winter, they can make the effort to look after their customers ;)

    The Land of Cead Milé Failte, has turned into how much can we squeeze out of ya!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭jap gt


    lads in my limited experience, the dealer that treats you right will always keep the customer, 3 dealers local to me and i will never enter two of them again, one is cheapish but a ignorant pig, the other two are priced the same but one stands out as he will take the time to have a chat give advice and remembers peoples names, i have traveled to different dealers in the country looking for my shotgun and still returned to my local dealer as he looked after me with price, i will say i will never set foot inside a certain galway mans shop, he point blank refused to show me any shotguns and was with out doubt the rudest man i have met


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