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Sunderland V Arsenal Match Thread

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  • #152
    SDTimeout
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,660 ✭✭✭SDTimeout


    Alot of positives to take from that match.

    We have improved on last season's result. We have improved on last season in general in terms of defending. Our defence and Almunia especially were very good the whole match. It wasn't a defensive mistake that cost us in the last min, it was just unlucky. Clearance hit one of our men and fell to Bent. We were lucky to get our goal so it's swings and roundabouts in this instance.

    I won't complain at a point away from home after a CL matchweek. In which we lost our most influential player earlier on and then lost Song to his own fault.

    Draw is what we deserve, a draw is what i will gladly take.


  • #153
    M5
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,161 ✭✭✭✭M5


    L'prof wrote: »
    Missed that.

    Handbags really, not hard to miss to be fair. Never know though, the FA may make a big deal out of it


  • #154
    DOC09UNAM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    L'prof wrote: »
    That was so long ago, I forgot :o

    Slices of luck for: 1, Slices of luck against: 4
    The only piece of luck today was the Arsenal goal...

    The sending off, the missed penalty and conceding a goal are all down to Arsenal error, not luck.


  • #155
    L'prof
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    DOC09UNAM wrote: »
    The only piece of luck today was the Arsenal goal...

    The sending off, the missed penalty and conceding a goal are all down to Arsenal error, not luck.

    Saunter.


  • #156
    the_monkey
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    M5 wrote: »
    Sunderland scored on 94.15

    the rule is "at least x mins of time added on"


    Yes, I can imagine it's frustrating for Arsenal fans, but think how city fans felt last season , 4 Mins injury time ... Owen scored in the seventh minute :rolleyes:


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  • #157
    NeoKubrick
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    It wasn't luck that cost Arsenal two points. It's a lottery for the captain's armband if Fabregas is not on the field, and I presume that with the armband, Rosicky felt that it was his responsibility to step-up and take the penalty. That's an effect of Wenger's inability to establish strong and experienced leaders in the team. Referee should have finished the game the second Zenden turned his back to the goal. Arsenal's nervous defence created a situation for Sunderland to score from. Clichy is a very accomplished footballer and he shouldn't be kicking a clearance against his teammate; that's a player cracking under the pressure, not luck.

    That said, Rosicky and Nasri took control of the match after the sending-off and it was very impressive as well as some of the defending. I think I can remember only two clear-cut chances Sunderland created in the whole match. I don't think Sunderland deserved a point, but that means nothing.


  • #158
    SDTimeout
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    the_monkey wrote: »
    Yes, I can imagine it's frustrating for Arsenal fans, but think how city fans felt last season , 4 Mins injury time ... Owen scored in the seventh minute :rolleyes:

    That's not true ?


  • #159
    DOC09UNAM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    L'prof wrote: »
    Saunter.
    Saunter?


  • #160
    [Deleted User]
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    It was surprising to see Almunia not getting the armband. He's been getting more vocal as of late


  • #161
    the_monkey
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    SDTimeout wrote: »
    That's not true ?


    close enough it was way over time ....


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  • #162
    LuckyLloyd
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    Arsenal lack resolve at crunch moment, news at 11.


  • #163
    DOC09UNAM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    the_monkey wrote: »
    close enough it was way over time ....

    Do yourself a favour and stop talking, it was 1 second over time.


  • #164
    cson
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    DOC09UNAM wrote: »
    Do yourself a favour and stop talking, it was 1 second over time.

    Eh, maths not your strong suit?

    4.15 [Source: ESPN] - 4.00 [Time Allotted] = 0.15

    So that'd be 15 seconds and not 1.

    Ordinarily I wouldn't engage in semantics but you've only been too happy to oblige yourself in this thread so far, so I'll refute. Quite clearly you have a serious chip on your shoulder about Arsenal FC.


  • #165
    DOC09UNAM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    cson wrote: »
    Eh, maths not your strong suit?

    4.15 [Source: ESPN] - 4.00 [Time Allotted] = 0.15

    So that'd be 15 seconds and not 1.

    Ordinarily I wouldn't engage in semantics but you've only been too happy to oblige yourself in this thread so far, so I'll refute. Quite clearly you have a serious chip on your shoulder about Arsenal FC.
    Eh, reading not your strong suit?

    We were talking about the manchester derby.

    And no chip on my shoulder, I love the Arsenal style of football, but I disagree with a few of the things said about them today.

    You're best off not engaging in semantics until you learn to read.


  • #166
    cson
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    Fair enough, I slid in Ryan Shawcross style with a clumsy post. The intention was right though.


  • #167
    the_monkey
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    DOC09UNAM wrote: »
    Do yourself a favour and stop talking, it was 1 second over time.


    Was way more then 1 second pal


  • #168
    JPA
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    Wenger was surprised Rosicky took the penalty instead of Nasri. Um, Arsene, aren't you in charge of these things?


  • #169
    everdead.ie
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    JPA wrote: »
    Wenger was surprised Rosicky took the penalty instead of Nasri. Um, Arsene, aren't you in charge of these things?
    Same situation as fergie a few weeks back I sometimes it's just down to who feels most confident at the time.


  • #170
    DOC09UNAM
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    the_monkey wrote: »
    Was way more then 1 second pal
    There you go pal.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M993PEbCI24


  • #171
    Frisbee
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    Just saw Cesc's goal on MotD.

    Lol.


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  • #172
    Frisbee
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    Song's second yellow was a definite booking.

    His first one though has to be one of the softest yellows we'll see all season, I can see no reason why the ref has booked him.

    I also thought the peno we got was very soft tbh.

    Disgusted with their goal, shambolic defending.


  • #173
    everdead.ie
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    When someone mentioned Arsne pushed the fourth official was that the pat on the back he gave him when they sent off Song?


  • #174
    Minstrel27
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    everdead.ie wrote: »
    When someone mentioned Arsne pushed the fourth official was that the pat on the back he gave him when they sent off Song?

    With blinkers on it must look like a violent outburst.


  • #175
    everdead.ie
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    Minstrel27 wrote: »
    With blinkers on it must look like a violent outburst.
    Well I'm sure it was probably sarcastic but any action by the FA could only be taken if he said something along with it I'd say he'll be fine.


  • #176
    thorbarry
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    Frisbee wrote: »
    Song's second yellow was a definite booking.

    His first one though has to be one of the softest yellows we'll see all season, I can see no reason why the ref has booked him.

    I also thought the peno we got was very soft tbh.

    Disgusted with their goal, shambolic defending.

    in fairness, song made a tackle before he got the first yellow, that should have been a yellow but didnt get a booking. We were very shoddy today. Sunderland played us off the park in the first half


  • #177
    Royale with Cheese
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    Song was most likely originally booked for persistent fouling. Penalty looked pretty clear cut to me, just a completely stupid tackle to make.


  • #178
    NeoKubrick
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    DOC09UNAM wrote: »
    There you go pal.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M993PEbCI24
    It's just a shame MotD aren't up-to-date on the Laws of the Game; otherwise, you and they might have had a point.


  • #179
    DOC09UNAM
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    NeoKubrick wrote: »
    It's just a shame MotD aren't up-to-date on the Laws of the Game; otherwise, you and they might have had a point.

    Thats a mighty fine statement without any proof to back it up.


  • #180
    NeoKubrick
    Registered Users Posts: 660 ✭✭✭NeoKubrick


    DOC09UNAM wrote: »
    Thats a mighty fine statement without any proof to back it up.
    Heh - the irony of someone asking for proof of one claim but readily accepting another claim with none. I said refer to the Laws of the Game, which the BBC editors or you didn't do.

    Even so, any one with a modicum of common-sense, without any knowledge of the rules, would find an inconsistency in the BBC's argument to exactly time Citeh's goal celebration (56s) but not to exactly time the substitution (Allow 30s). BBC didn't exactly time the substitution (reality, less than 20s), because it would have destroyed their argument (56s + 20s = 1m16s). United lost possession on 95:15 and Citeh headed the ball not once but twice and Martin Atkinson should have finished the game.


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  • #181
    DOC09UNAM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    NeoKubrick wrote: »
    Heh - the irony of someone asking for proof of one claim but readily accepting another claim with none. I said refer to the Laws of the Game, which the BBC editors or you didn't do.

    Even so, any one with a modicum of common-sense, without any knowledge of the rules, would find an inconsistency in the BBC's argument to exactly time Citeh's goal celebration (56s) but not to exactly time the substitution (Allow 30s). BBC didn't exactly time the substitution (reality, less than 20s), because it would have destroyed their argument (56s + 20s = 1m16s). United lost possession on 95:15 and Citeh headed the ball not once but twice and Martin Atkinson should have finished the game.

    The rules state 30s per substitution.


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