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How Bout Dem Bears?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    Well its never boring anymore , fields incredible there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,931 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Injuries are piling up here. Jenkins one looked very scary, potentially career threatening even.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    Way way too many injuries



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,931 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Denver won, happy days boys!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,400 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    Even if we win another the worst we can get is pick 4. Obviously pick 2 could be far more valuable if one or two QB needy teams fall on love with one of the available QBs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,931 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Yeah I've never before been a tank kind of guy but right now all I want to see is plenty of battle from lads we hope to see back next year, coming up short against better teams than us. If it weren't for the injuries, today would have been perfect, stayed competitive against a serious serious team.

    Would also love if they benched fields now, he looks fantastic, would like him to stay that way, not get destroyed behind an oline made up of lads who should be in the USFL



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    jenkins seems to be not too bad according to eberflus's press conf



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,931 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    I'm ready to fire anyone involved in the decision to keep fields playing in this game. They're going to get him killed for nothing. Worse than nothing. At this rate we'll need the number 2 pick ourselves for a new quarterback, let alone trading back for picks. It's infuriating.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,400 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    Yeah I don't know why he's still in there. I know he wants to play and I like that trait but he needs to be protected from himself. His line cannot block and his WRs cannot get separation or hold onto the ball. You can't grow as a QB in these circumstances so there is no point having him in there down 28.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    eberfleus saying today he's going to talk to poles about the final game , if fields is fit he plays , the vikings will kill him in a nothing game



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,400 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    Fields ruled out of the Vikes game with a hip injury. No doubt if it was week 10 he'd be starting and playing through it but resting him is the only logical decision at this point.

    Now c'mon Lovie. Do us a favour.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    we're no.1 ......at the moment



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,400 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    God bless Lovie Smith and Davis Mills.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    the texans mgmt team ......THE FVCK DID YOU JUST DO



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,931 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Lovie knew he was being fired anyway by the looks of things.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    crazy that the texans could be the ones now looking to trade up , get picks from the texans then trade back again



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    happy thoughts on this day


    what do we think about the tee higgins talk ? hard to know what the trade would entail



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,400 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    I don't see them letting him go. Trade Boyd who's 27 and extend Higgins. They can probably make that work with the cap increases coming.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    time to get my 52 jersey out of the bottom drawer




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,400 ✭✭✭✭Oat23




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    panthers going 0-17 next season



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,931 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    That is a fantastic deal for the bears. Dj Moore, their first, a second, next year's first and the following year's second. That's phenomenal business. Thanks once again lovie Smith.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,400 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    I wasn't expecting Poles to be in on Edmunds. Big money. I was almost certain it would be Okereke.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    Montgomery gone to the lions . why them WHY



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,931 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    I'm not much of a draft person these days, I find it a bit tedious reading up on players before the draft because honestly I don't care about this or that lineman from wherever university unless and until he's drafted by the bears (I watch a bit if college ball but not terribly religiously). So with that said, anyone more knowledgeable than me have thoughts on the draft? What I've read seems positive about wright and it's definitely a position of need that shows a commitment to fields. Today, again, I don't know the players and bears commentators all day nice things about these guys but just from a position perspective, we are getting guys where we need them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    the best analysis i saw of wright was ' best o line in the draft , he plays like a prick ' :)

    we need numbers in the door . should be 10 if there are no further trades

    history will show whether not getting carter at 9 and trading back to 10 was a good move . eagles were strong already .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,931 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Well! How are we feeling? I'd probably be a lot more optimistic if our division wasn't looking so strong all round.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,400 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    Close to .500 with Fields having a solid season and I'll be satisfied I think. Not expecting playoffs for the reasons you've said. Think the Vikes and Lions are clearly better when all teams are healthy and it'll be a battle between ourselves and the Pack for 3rd.

    Little review here of Bagent against the Colts. If he plays well again tomorrow against the Bills and PJ is once again poor surely they'll make him QB2. He has been far better than PJ in practice and both games so far.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,400 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    All the additions and the team is still horrendous. Alan Williams is simply a bad coach.

    The offensive playcalling was scared, unimaginative sh*te all game. The o-line still being swiss cheese doesn't help.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,967 ✭✭✭Liamalone


    Go Bears!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,931 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    I know it's only week one but there was nothing there that gave cause for optimism. All the problems and doubts from last year were in evidence again, in some cases even worse.

    It's only week one... It's only week one... It's only week one...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,400 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    It's amazing that they can spend so much upgrading the roster and still look like the same hopeless team that was on the field in December. The lack of discipline the first two weeks is the only difference I see.

    Fields is firmly inside his own head, playing scared and refusing to throw the ball when he's looking straight at wide open receivers. He's a shell of the QB he was at OSU, but 3 years of dysfunction will do that to you. Well on our way to David Carr'ing the kid.

    Caleb Williams will be better off staying for his senior season if the Bears or Panthers end up having the worst record this season or we'll ruin him too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,931 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    This has been as depressing as opening two weeks as I remember. We did some nice things early on but as always can't roll with the changes. Not too mind last year, this feels like Nagy and Trubisky all over again. At some point you have to accept that it's not the individual coaches or quarterbacks, it's the organization. Word of McCaskey having "angry" meetings with coaches and manager during the week and all I can think is, who the **** are you angry at? Did you storm in and shout at them about your own decade or more of ineptitude?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,400 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    The McCaskey's managed to hire a Matt & Ryan who appear worse than Nagy & Pace. Eberflus has put together a horrendous staff on both sides of the ball and is trying to run a defensive scheme which depends on players (such as a 3T) which we don't even have on the roster. Poles is a former offensive lineman who has masterminded a bottom 5 offensive line two seasons in a row (only week 2 but it looks like the line is no better).

    The Eberflus gimmicks like HITS aren't even fun either. At least Nagy had Club Dub and other nonsense.

    Blow it up and start again...again.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,931 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Really good drive just now if you're superstitious maybe we should complain more. But, yeah the only problem with your post here is that if we blow it up and start again and it's the same people doing the blowing up and restarting, there's no point. I'm not sure what the chances are of us getting a new ownership anytime soon...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,400 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    Can only laugh at that. The screen was so predictable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,931 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    What can you say, can't see myself giving up my Sundays for the rest of the year to be watching that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,091 ✭✭✭Christy42


    I am worried for the Bears sake that Fields being bad will be used as sacrificial lamb. Most of the receivers are struggling to know their routes (*cough cough* Claypool), the offensive line do not know who they are blocking half the time. I don't know what Kmet is meant to be doing and neither does he. He can't block, he can't run routes, he can't catch.


    After all that Fields is still not reading plays as they should be read. However if you want to bring someone new in for Fields you need to tear the entire building down to give them a chance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,931 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Yeah I saw an interesting thread on twitter where they showed Kmet in week one often in a running stance on plays where it was very obvious he would be blocking and nobody was going to be fooled or care if he ran, but he still had a running stance and then wasn't able to make the block, resulting in a sack.

    Plenty of sacks that are Fields's fault as well, he is frozen in the pocket and not seeing open receivers, and this week he wouldn't make runs either.

    Saw where the final pick 6 came on a play where Getsy called a play twice in a row and got blown for penalties, then called it a THIRD time for the pick 6 and the defense read it like a ladybird book.

    Throw in your own point about receivers not running routes, and the defense playing pretty poorly despite having a defensive head coach, and then consider how bad the roster is all the way through especially in the trenches, along with having gotten rid of the only great player we had, and eventually you realise that quarterback, other players, coaches, and management are ALL dire. It's just an unforgivable situation and there's no way that it can be solved under the ownership that have led us to this exact spot three times in a row now (Emery/Trestman, Pace/Nagy/Trubisky, and now by the looks of it Poles/Eberflus/Fields). You can blame individuals all over the place, for sure, but when there's a repeated pattern like this, it's the organization.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,400 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    In two decades I've never seen the Bears org in as chaotic a place after 2 games as it appears to be right now. Fields openly called out the coaching in his press conference today.

    Alan Williams has just resigned. Nobody seems to know what the **** is going on with that, but his statement says he's resigning to look after his health and family.

    Brad Biggs said this earlier just before the resignation announcement:

    Lot of speculation about the status of #Bears defensive coordinator Alan Williams. I can tell you for the last 3 days we've been operating under the belief that his absence has not been related to health or a family matter.

    Something smells.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,394 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,400 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    A lot of nonsense being posted on Twitter by random accounts with no credibility.

    My guess is Halas Hall was quite toxic after week 1. Perhaps there was a falling out which has led to him resigning and claiming it's due to "health/family" reasons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,196 ✭✭✭Guffy



    Several actual news sites are reporting a raid on his home though. Granted a number are also claiming one in Halas Hall which has since been refuted



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,400 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    His attorney (sports, not criminal) was on Parkins & Spiegel around 20 minutes ago repeating the health/family thing and when asked about the criminality rumours said "There is absolutely no criminal activity and no criminal actions being taken against Coach Williams."

    Obviously I hope if he does have health issues and family issues they aren't serious and everything will be fine, but I'm still leaning towards it being a cover for him essentially being fired. But firing your DC after a week would look awful and lead to chaos.

    Obviously the way things have played out have led to a chaotic situation anyway, but that is because the Bears communication on this has been abysmal.



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