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  • Registered Users Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Red Cortina


    Tuesday 08 Nov 11 - Week 2, Day 3 - DE Lower Body

    Warm Up - 2 rounds
    Bird Dogs
    Fire Hydrants
    Squats
    Cradle Walks
    Reverse Lunge
    Aeroplanes

    Deadlifts
    30kg x 5
    35kg x 2
    37.5kg x 2
    37.5kg x 2
    37.5kg x 2
    37.5kg x 2
    37.5kg x 2
    37.5kg x 2
    37.5kg x 2
    37.5kg x 2
    37.5kg x 2

    Step Ups
    2kg x 10 e/s
    2kg x 10 e/s
    2kg x 10 e/s

    SL DLs
    20kg x 10 e/s
    20kg x 10 e/s
    20kg x 10 e/s

    Side Planks
    30secs on/30 secs rest x 3

    Followed by some stretching


  • Registered Users Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Red Cortina


    Wednesday 09 Nov 11 - Kettlebell Class

    Warm Up - 2 rounds
    Halos
    Glute Bridges
    Scap Push-Ups
    Side Lunges
    X-Band Walks
    Seated Wall Slides

    Workset 1 - 3 sets
    1 x 20kg Suitcase DL e/s
    2 x 20kg Suitcase DL e/s
    3 x 20kg Suitcase DL e/s
    4 x 20kg Suitcase DL e/s
    5 x 20kg Suitcase DL e/s

    Workset 2 - 1 set on the minute every minute for 10mins
    25 x 25kg Suitcase DL e/s

    Followed up with some stretching


  • Registered Users Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Red Cortina


    Thursday 10 Nov 11 - Week 2, Day 4 - ME Upper Body

    Warm Up - 2 rounds
    Shoulder circles
    Band dislocates
    Halos
    Scap pushups
    Vertical band pullaparts
    Scap inverted rows

    Bench Press
    15kg x 6
    17.5kg x 4
    20kg x 3
    22.5kg x 3
    23.7kg x 3

    BB Rows
    20kg x 10
    22.5kg x 10
    22.5kg x 10

    Tricep Plate Extensions w/10kg plate
    3 x 10

    Delt Flyes
    2kg x 10
    2kg x 10
    2kg x 10

    Quick training session today:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Red Cortina


    Saturday 12 Nov 11 - Kettlebell Class

    Warm Up - 1 round
    Halos
    Glute Bridges
    Scap Push-Ups
    Side Lunges
    X-Band Walks
    Seated Wall Slides
    Then some caterpillar walks etc

    Skillz
    Practiced some box squats

    Main Workset – 4(?) rounds around a square on the football pitch
    Throw from Hips w/12lb Med Ball
    12kg KB Walking Swing
    Throw from Chest w/ 8lb Med Ball
    20kg KB Farmers Walk

    Followed up with some stretching

    _______________________________________________

    Monday 14 Nov 11 - Week 3, Day 1 - ME Lower Body

    Warm Up - 2 rounds
    Bird Dogs
    Fire Hydrants
    Squats
    Cradle Walks
    Reverse Lunge
    Aeroplanes

    Deadlifts
    30kg x 8
    40kg x 8
    50kg x 5...This felt heavy
    60kg x 3...And so did this....
    67.5kg x 1...WTF:confused: Was expecting 3 reps to be no bother. Think I'm still hungover from Sat night:confused:

    Reverse Lunges
    2kg x 10
    2kg x 10
    2kg x 10

    Good Mornings
    30kg x 10
    32.5kg x 10
    32.5kg x 10

    Band Pulldowns
    3 x 15

    Followed by some stretching


  • Registered Users Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Red Cortina


    Tuesday 15 Nov 11 - Week 3, Day 2 - DE Upper Body

    Warm Up
    - 2 rounds
    Shoulder circles
    Band dislocates
    Halos
    Scap pushups
    Vertical band pullaparts
    Scap inverted rows

    Bench Press
    17.5kg x 3
    17.5kg x 3
    17.5kg x 3
    17.5kg x 3
    17.5kg x 3
    17.5kg x 3
    17.5kg x 3
    17.5kg x 3
    17.5kg x 3
    17.5kg x 3

    Push Press
    15kg x 5
    15kg x 5
    15kg x 5
    15kg x 5
    15kg x 5

    Lat Pulldown
    27kg x 10
    27kg x 10
    27kg x 10

    Hammer Curls
    6kg x 15
    6kg x 15
    6kg x 15


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  • Registered Users Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Red Cortina


    Wednesday 16 Nov 11 - Kettlebell Class

    Warm Up - 1 round
    Halos
    Glute Bridges
    Scap Push-Ups
    Side Lunges
    X-Band Walks
    Seated Wall Slides
    plus further mobility stuff...

    Workset 1 - 3 sets
    1 x 12kg Clean + 1 x 12kg Push Press
    1 x 12kg Clean + 2 x 12kg Push Press
    1 x 12kg Clean + 3 x 12kg Push Press

    Workset 2 - 1 set on the minute every minute for 10mins
    6 x 8kg KB Snatches e/s

    Followed up with some stretching


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Skillz

    IDIBISHDI - I love it.

    How ya finding the westside set up?


  • Registered Users Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Red Cortina


    Hanley wrote: »
    IDIBISHDI - I love it.

    How ya finding the westside set up?
    Like:
    The dynamic days and time spent drilling my form at light weights. For example I had never actually been coached before on how to bench, aside from putting eyes under the bar and benching on your nipple line (IYKWIM???). So I'm getting lots of practice drilling my technique for both the BP and DL.

    Dislike:
    That it is a 4 day/week program. Feel like I'm gonna get nowhere and will end up doing this program until mid 2012 unless I train at least 5x/week, if not 6x. Dunno how this impacts my recovery...but don't want to stop going to the KB classes as they are good craic and we do loads of mobility stuff in them which I don't have the discipline to do on my own.

    Also my inguinal ligament is still giving me gip and I dunno will it be ok to start squatting again when I'm done with the deadlifts:confused:

    Otherwise it's all good:)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Yeahhhhhhh you're so far off base with the training volume thing :)

    Start thinking quality, not quantity. Every strong dude I know got that way by training 3-4x per week. If you're pushing hard enough you won't be able to recover from any more. If you're finding it too easy, you're probably not psuhing hard enough (and I'm talking about REAL effort rather than perceived).

    Generally, I'm starting to think one can only really have 2 HARD training days per week over the long term without burning out anyway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Red Cortina


    Am I supposed to be pushing myself hard on DE days?:confused:

    I had thought myself that the 2 ME days were the hard days? But even then the ME BP isn't that hard as I am pretty weak in that regard.

    I've never done a program like this before and am pretty confused:confused:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭cmyk


    Like:
    The dynamic days and time spent drilling my form at light weights. For example I had never actually been coached before on how to bench, aside from putting eyes under the bar and benching on your nipple line (IYKWIM???). So I'm getting lots of practice drilling my technique for both the BP and DL.

    Good, this is the plan, that and actually get under/over heavy weight on a regular basis.
    Dislike:
    That it is a 4 day/week program.

    We discussed this, ie cutting it back to 3Xsolid sessions per week.
    Feel like I'm gonna get nowhere and will end up doing this program until mid 2012 unless I train at least 5x/week, if not 6x.

    I really don't understand what you mean here? Your max effort lifts should be going up weekly and swapping every 3 weeks. It'll be back to something more linear after christmas, but you've got to push the weight heavy if you want to increase your strength.
    Dunno how this impacts my recovery...but don't want to stop going to the KB classes as they are good craic and we do loads of mobility stuff in them which I don't have the discipline to do on my own.

    As Hanley said, you should be pushing so hard you'll need recovery days, cut the kb class back to once per week if you have to. Since discussing this, you've also snuck in a strongman/woman class on a sunday? So you're increasing training volume again, I'm not sure what the purpose of that is?
    Also my inguinal ligament is still giving me gip and I dunno will it be ok to start squatting again when I'm done with the deadlifts:confused:

    Something you'll have to manage and rehab, if this is still not healing, get someone to look at it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Red Cortina


    cmyk wrote: »
    As Hanley said, you should be pushing so hard you'll need recovery days, cut the kb class back to once per week if you have to. Since discussing this, you've also snuck in a strongman/woman class on a sunday? So you're increasing training volume again, I'm not sure what the purpose of that is?
    Fair enough. TBH I am absolutely shattered today at work and am fit for nothing! I was planning on training again tonight but will can that. So I’ll probably plan the rest of the week so that I do days 3 and 4 on Fri and Sat then and skip the class on Sat morning. That way I can start Monday again with ME lower etc rather than ME Upper followed a day later by ME Lower.

    I did the strongman class cause I was dying to try it….

    cmyk wrote: »
    Something you'll have to manage and rehab, if this is still not healing, get someone to look at it.
    I hear you, will look into it…


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭cmyk


    Sounds like a good plan, you've got to learn to ease off the accelerator as much as you push it, pick your battles wisely. ; )

    And yes, if it's still giving you issues, at least get an opinion on the hip.


  • Registered Users Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Red Cortina


    Friday 18 Nov 11 - Week 3, Day 3 - DE Lower Body

    Warm Up - 2 rounds
    Bird Dogs
    Fire Hydrants
    Squats
    Cradle Walks
    Reverse Lunge
    Aeroplanes

    Deadlifts
    40kg x 2
    40kg x 2
    40kg x 2
    40kg x 2
    40kg x 2
    40kg x 2
    40kg x 2
    40kg x 2
    40kg x 2
    40kg x 2
    Tried to focus on the breathing side of things with these tonight

    Step Ups
    2kg x 10 e/s
    2kg x 10 e/s...Thought I was being a little bit pathetic with the 2kgs so got the 4's for the last set
    4kg x 10 e/s

    SL DLs
    20kg x 10 e/s
    20kg x 10 e/s
    20kg x 10 e/s

    Side Planks
    40secs on/30 secs rest x 3

    Followed by some stretching


  • Registered Users Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Red Cortina


    Saturday 19 Nov 11

    Week 2, Day 4 - ME Upper Body


    Did warm up at home and was at the gym at 10, ready to get cracking

    Warm Up - 2 rounds
    Shoulder circles
    Band dislocates
    Halos
    Scap pushups
    Vertical band pullaparts
    Scap inverted rows

    Bench Press
    15kg x 8
    17.5kg x 5
    20kg x 3
    22.5kg x 3
    25kg x 3…these were hard-ish

    BB Rows
    22.5kg x 10
    22.5kg x 10
    22.5kg x 10

    Tricep Plate Extensions w/10kg plate
    3 x 10

    Delt Flyes
    2kg x 10
    2kg x 10
    2kg x 10


    Because I was finished doing all that by 10:30, I decided to do the KB class. Which I regretted once we started into it...

    Kettlebell Class

    Warm Up - 1 round
    Halos
    Glute Bridges
    Scap Push-Ups
    Thoraic Mobility
    X-Band Walks
    Seated Wall Slides

    Then some other mobility stuff

    Workset 1 - ?? sets in 15mins
    5 x Push-ups…these were not great at all

    10 x Inverted Rows
    15 x 16kg KB Swings

    Workset 2

    Practiced some arm bars and TGUs

    Followed up with some stretching


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭cmyk


    Ok, we've an issue here big time. I didn't know you had done ME upper body day before the class!!! Let's plan a chat after the class Wednesday night to sit down and discuss.

    The plan further up this thread was to ease off (see post from 2 days ago), skip the kb class today to start with and re-assess. You put in a session on Friday night too, and 2 X today.


  • Registered Users Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Red Cortina


    Fair enough. Can you give me some guidelines/rules of thumb for the way to schedule my week? Like 'Always have a rest day after a ME day', or 'It is ok to double up on a DE Upper and DE Lower day' or 'It is ok to double up on a DE day and a KB class'.....

    This week I was thinking of the following plan:
    Mon: ME-Lower
    Tues: DE-Uppper & DE-Lower
    Wed: KB Class
    Thurs: Off
    Fri: Physical Therapist session & ME-Upper
    Sat: KB Class & and then train in Raw @ 6pm
    Sun: Off

    What do you think?? Would you change it? If so what would you change???


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,851 ✭✭✭Glowing


    Just FYI, Kathryn will recommend you rest and re-hydrate after the therapy session, you'll likely be quite tender! I've asked her about this before and she is quite adamant about it :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭cmyk


    Ideally for this week...

    Mon: ME Lower & DE Upper
    Tues: Off
    Wed: KB class
    Thurs: ME Upper & DE Lower
    Fri: Off
    Sat: One or the other.

    COH/Hanley et al might be good enough to look over your technique too and give some advice on Saturday. Either way, we'll sit down and discuss your training volume at some stage this week and change it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Red Cortina


    Ok, I'll work to that plan except for Thurs as I can't train that day. I guess that session can roll over to the following Monday....

    That leaves 3 training sessions for next week so!!!:eek:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Red Cortina


    Tuesday 21 Nov 11

    Week 4, Day 1 - ME Lower Body

    Warm Up - 2 rounds
    Bird Dogs
    Fire Hydrants
    Squats
    Cradle Walks
    Reverse Lunge
    Aeroplanes

    Deadlifts
    30kg x 8
    40kg x 5
    50kg x 3
    60kg x 3

    70kg x 1…the 2nd rep came off the floor but put it down again as was not using good form
    67.5kg x 1

    Reverse Lunges
    3kg x 10
    4kg x 10
    4kg x 10

    Good Mornings
    32.5kg x 10
    32.5kg x 10
    32.5kg x 10

    Band Pulldowns
    3 x 15


    Week 4, Day 2 - DE Upper Body

    Warm Up
    - 2 rounds
    Shoulder circles
    Band dislocates
    Halos
    Scap pushups
    Vertical band pullaparts
    Scap inverted rows

    Incline Bench Press
    15kg x 3
    15kg x 3
    15kg x 3
    15kg x 3
    15kg x 3
    15kg x 3
    15kg x 3
    15kg x 3
    15kg x 3
    15kg x 3

    Push Press
    20kg x 5…tried the strongman log for these
    22.5kg x 5
    22.5kg x 5
    22.5kg x 5
    22.5kg x 5

    Lat Pulldown
    27kg x 10
    27kg x 10
    27kg x 10

    Hammer Curls
    5kg x 15
    6kg x 15
    6kg x 15


  • Registered Users Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Red Cortina


    Wednesday 23 Nov 11 - Kettlebell Class

    Warm Up - 1 round
    Halos
    Hip Pops
    Squats
    X-Band Walks
    Seated Wall Slides
    plus further mobility stuff...

    Workset - 45secs on/20secs rest
    8kg RH OH Reverse Lunges
    12kg DHS
    8kg RH Kneeling Windmills
    12kg DHS
    8kg RH Get-Up Sit-Ups
    12kg DHS
    8kg RH TGUs
    8kg LH OH Reverse Lunges
    12kg DHS
    8kg LH Kneeling Windmills
    12kg DHS
    8kg LH Get-Up Sit-Ups
    12kg DHS
    8kg LH TGUs

    Followed up with some stretching


  • Registered Users Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Red Cortina


    Saturday 26 Nov 11
    Trained with some fellow boardsies:)

    Deadlift
    COH kindly looked over my DLs and worked up to 50kg x 5. Left it at that as I could feel my hip twinging

    Bench Press
    Again COH looked over my form and worked up to 25kg x 3.
    Got some more tips, including to tighten up my back even more such that it is uncomfortable. Think the DOMS in my back is due to this. I obviously used muscles that I didn't even know existed but I can sure feel them now

    Myself and Glowing had a go at the battle ropes and then we did a bit of conditioning

    Great night followed and not so much of hangover. So all good:D

    Monday 28 Nov 11

    Week 4, Day 4 - ME Upper Body

    Warm Up - 2 rounds
    Shoulder circles
    Band dislocates
    Halos
    Scap pushups
    Vertical band pullaparts
    Scap inverted rows

    Incline Bench Press
    15kg x 8
    15kg x 8
    15kg x 5
    17.5kg x 5
    20kg x 3
    22.5kg x 3

    BB Rows
    22.5kg x 10
    22.5kg x 10
    22.5kg x 10

    Tricep Plate Extensions w/10kg plate
    3 x 10

    Delt Flyes
    2kg x 10
    2kg x 10
    2kg x 10


    Week 4, Day 3 - DE Lower Body

    Deadlifts
    42.5kg x 2
    42.5kg x 2
    42.5kg x 2
    42.5kg x 2
    42.5kg x 2
    42.5kg x 2
    42.5kg x 2
    42.5kg x 2
    42.5kg x 2
    42.5kg x 2

    Step Ups
    2kg x 10 e/s
    2kg x 10 e/s
    2kg x 10 e/s

    SL DLs
    20kg x 10 e/s
    20kg x 10 e/s
    20kg x 10 e/s

    Side Planks
    45secs on/30 secs rest x 3

    Doesn't look like I'll have time for much training this week due to other things going on. Then next week am away so not great at all training wise:(


  • Registered Users Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Red Cortina


    Saturday 03 Dec 11 - Kettlebell Class

    Warm Up - 2 rounds
    Band Pullaparts
    Hip Openers
    Scap Pushups
    Hamstring Walks
    Clams

    Workset 1 - 20mins AMRAP
    20 x 12kg DHS
    10 x Air Squats
    5 x Push Ups

    Workset 2 - 1 round on the minute every minute for 7 mins
    8 x 8kg LH Snatches
    8 x 8kg RH Snatches

    Followed up with some stretching

    Then later on went back to BHAF for some of the open day challenges. Did the sled drag w/40kgs in 2m49s and then some farmers walks with 20kgs.

    The physio I went to on thurs has said he's 90% certain I've torn some cartilage in my hip joint so I think I will be taking things handy for a while. I'm away from Monday til Thurs this week coming anyway so maybe it's a sign to back off a bit. Will try and figure out what to do next week when I'm back


  • Registered Users Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Red Cortina


    Bit of logging to catch up on....

    Saturday 10 Dec 11 - Kettlebell Class

    Warm Up - 2 rounds
    Band Pullaparts
    Hip Pops
    Scap Pushups
    Hamstring Walks
    Clams

    Workset 1 – 45secs on/15secs rest for 3(?) rounds
    16kg KB DHS
    Band Pullaparts
    Rack Holds
    Plank
    TRX Pistol Squats
    14kg KB Alternate Swings

    Workset 2 - 1 round on the minute every minute for 5 mins
    28 x 14kg KB DH Swings

    Followed up with some stretching
    _________________________________________________________

    Sunday 11 Dec 11
    Trained with Henners, fullback4glin & Glowing

    Warmed up a bit then:

    11 x Hill Sprints

    16kg KB Swings – 30secs on/30secs rest for 10 mins

    10kg Power Bag quarter back squats – 30secs on/30secs rest for 10 mins

    Then to finish up a circuit with 10 lunges, 6(?) push ups off a power bag and 10 push presses with the 10kg power bag

    Great session:)
    ______________________________________________________________

    Wednesday 14 Dec 11 - Kettlebell Class

    Warm Up - 2 rounds
    Clams
    Band Pullaparts
    Hip Pops
    Scap Pushups
    X-band walks
    Hamstring Walks

    Workset 1 – 10 sets
    10 x 20kg KB Power Swings

    Workset 2 – 3 rounds
    8 x TRX Inverted Rows with 12kg KB Rack Holds in between

    Workset 3 - 1 round on the minute every minute for 5 mins
    28 x 12kg KB Alternate Swings

    Followed up with some stretching
    _____________________________________________________________

    Friday 16 Dec 11

    Warm Up

    Workset 1 – 5 sets
    Grey Band Chin-Ups
    9, 8, 7, 6, 5

    Workset 2 – 10 sets
    10 x 20kg KB Power Swings

    Then 10 mins on the Crosstrainer where I burned 134kcals:rolleyes:

    Workset 3 - 1 round on the minute every minute for 5 mins
    28 x 14kg KB Alternate Swings

    Followed up with some stretching


  • Registered Users Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Red Cortina


    Saturday 17 Dec 11 - Kettlebell Class

    Warm Up - 2 rounds
    Cossack Squats
    Band Pullaparts
    Plank Hip Extensions
    Halos
    TRX Squats
    Wall Slides

    Workset – 10 rounds in 20mins
    10 x Cossack Squats with 8kg KB
    20 x 14kg DHS
    Plank - Touch Shoulders
    10 x 8kg KB Snatches
    This 20 mins nearly killed me!!! Thank God I didn't have a hangover for it!

    Followed up with some stretching


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,793 ✭✭✭gymfreak


    the physio I went to on thurs has said he's 90% certain I've torn some cartilage in my hip joint

    how is the hip?


  • Registered Users Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Red Cortina


    gymfreak wrote: »
    the physio I went to on thurs has said he's 90% certain I've torn some cartilage in my hip joint

    how is the hip?
    I think it is settling down a bit. Could feel it a bit when I was doing the cossack squats but not in a painful way. Probably needs time to settle down a bit more...

    How's your quad doing now?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,793 ✭✭✭gymfreak


    I think it is settling down a bit. Could feel it a bit when I was doing the cossack squats but not in a painful way. Probably needs time to settle down a bit more...

    How's your quad doing now?


    That's good to hear:)

    Quad is MUCH better now..havent had any problems with it since I let it rest and did the stretches..but I'm not gonna lie, the pain was that intense that it had given me quite a fright...and yet its nearly forgotten about now:D:P Always the way!!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 771 ✭✭✭Red Cortina


    Update on training:

    21Dec11: KB Class
    23Dec11: Conditioning Session
    24Dec11: BHAF Xmas Eve Training Session (Jeez but Rob fairly cracks the whip!)

    Then I got a headcold after Christmas so no training for a week:o

    31Dec11: Glowing dragged me around and I ran around Deer Park for an hour

    Still have DOMS from that session:rolleyes:

    Went for a very, very slow walk yesterday for an hour to try and shake off the DOMS, didn't work tho:pac:

    Tuesday 03 Jan 12

    Warm Up

    Crosstrainer for 10 mins, 130kcals

    Grey Band Pulls-Ups - 7, 8, 6, 6, 6

    Workset 1 – 9 rounds in 15 mins
    20 x 16kg KB DHS
    5 x 8kg KB Press e/s
    5 x 8kg KB Row e/s

    Workset 2 - 1 round on the minute every minute for 5 mins
    28 x 12kg KB DH Swings

    Did some stretching then to help with the DOMS...


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