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JONJO THE MISER

Grimreaper666 wrote: »

We're gone way past salvation now, business is dead which means the country is too, it's everyone for themselves now I fear............

Im afraid you are right, this is how it will go i reckon the Dail will resume next wed and i expect Biffo to resign and to call a general election then, the budget for December will be harsh harsh harsh, we are at 6.48% in the 10 year bonds, this country is toast and if people say im being senasationlist will they need to take there head out of there ass.

Biggins

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Sorry? If you dont think that skit wont be the end of the government well i dunno what to say, its clear now R.T.E are anti F.F which is the end for the government.

If they have lost RTE (perhaps their last bastion of major media support) - they really are done for.
Praise be!

scientific1982

That_Guy wrote: »

Because that will solve everything. :rolleyes:

Yes, yes it will. Mr. Literal.

Grimreaper666

The sooner the IMF take over, the better..........

mikom

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

they need to take there head out of there ass.

A combo....... Cool.

orourkeda

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Sorry? If you dont think that skit wont be the end of the goverment well i dunno what to say, its clear now R.T.E are anti F.F which is the end for the goverment.

It isnt. Not really.

Gigiwagga

Biggins wrote: »

Lenihan was lost and completely avoided Williams question to name one country that has pulled it self out of a similar situation that were adopting the same actions as Cowen, FF and co.
Lenihan just would not answer or was able to state one country - so he deflected away and tried to avoid the question.
He made himself look like a further muppet!

He's a waffler, a phrase his former leader once used, but then so was Bertie himself. I find it difficult, at the moment to think of anyone in Government or the opposition who isn't a waffler. Don't any of them get it yet, we're not bloody imbeciles we are sick to *****n death of this spoofy vague s*** they all trot out nonstop. Problem is I think FG are a total dogsb******s as well.

All that prevented me from puking into my tea was the lack of Dick Roche on the panel.

cojack101

Gummy Panda wrote: »

What's this about?

Exactly what it says on the tin. Don't think you have to be a master tactician to see their preparing for something.

I'm not an anarchist or a hippy. I'm a working man, and have been working everyday since I finished the leaving cert.

Never missed a weeks PAYE PRSI contribution.

They want to tell me that I have to work 17 hours a week to get my entitled 196 euro, that I have paid my dues for at least 3 fold. How far can you push a man?

Biggins

Grimreaper666 wrote: »

The sooner the IMF take over, the better..........

Aaaa... no.

mikemac

That_Guy wrote: »

Personally I don't like Fianna Fail but I really think that skit at the end was uncalled for.

That skit was tame compared to what they used to put on Bull Island

Nothing RTÉ haven't done before, and all political parties were laughed at on that show

mikom

cojack101 wrote: »

How far can you push a man?

Depends.... Is he in a wheelchair?

Biggins

mikom wrote: »

Depends.... Is he in a wheelchair?

:pac:

Grimreaper666

Biggins wrote: »

Aaaa... no.

They're about the only hope unfortunately as our own government are still too busy feathering their nest to give a flying f**k about the country. It's either the IMF or meltdown.......

cojack101

Very funny lads

Biggins

Grimreaper666 wrote: »

...our own government are still too busy feathering their nest to give a flying f**k about the country...

That I agree with.

Grimreaper666

One of those riot trucks has just pulled up outside my house!!!! So much for free speech..........AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!! Help! Help!.................

cojack101

Sorry Grimreaper666.

I have been informed on this thread that its everyman for himself =P

Call this man:

http://www.icecreamireland.com/images/Caughtwic/Enda-sm.jpg

He'll fix the country with Icecream

Gummy Panda

Erm.. people saying IMF, didn't the EU create 440 billion euro fund to prevent PIIGS from defaulting?

skelliser

Bring it on!!

When this shower of corrupt gombeen FF gob****es are finally kicked out THEN we can say we have turned a corner!

Think it will be sooner rather then later as well!!

Grimreaper666

cojack101 wrote: »

Sorry Grimreaper666.

I have been informed on this thread that its everyman for himself =P

Call this man:

http://www.icecreamireland.com/images/Caughtwic/Enda-sm.jpg

He'll fix the country with Icecream

Phew...... I though it had something to do with global warming, climate change or whatever it's called this week.

LarrytheLantern

starbelgrade wrote: »

I wish I hadn't watched the programme. I was nice & relaxed before I did & now I'm fuming. Our politicians are so far divorced from reality, it's f*cking scarey.

no our politicians are perfectly in touch with reality i believe.
they know only too well they have their nice cosy "jobs", their plush state cars and their index linked pensions to look forward to.

sadly their reality and that of the average guy in the street seldom meet.

they realise only too well that if they give joe soap a few meaningless stats, and the prospect of an upturn in our economic fortunes, poor old joe will probably re-elect them to office.

welcome to REALITY.:eek:

bluefinger

have to say rte really seem to be pushing for an election. especially when the shows coda was balanced against the opening movement were something along the lines of social development was being mooted.

cojack101

Grimreaper666 wrote: »

Phew...... I though it had something to do with global warming, climate change or whatever it's called this week.

No no its Enda's new plan to get votes.

"Vote Enda and get a free Icecream"

But the craft B****rd is at it again. Turns out what he doesnt tell you is that its 1 ice cream for the registered voters. Not one icecream per registered voter.

But in all seriousness if he gets in.. which is likely, he'll sink the country. And I know FF have made a balls of it, but Enda will put the country under, like under under.

some_dose

As much as it might be crazy to say, I honestly reckon it's time for a Labour government in this country. Though by no means angels themselves, they are our best alternatives

cojack101

some_dose wrote: »

As much as it might be crazy to say, I honestly reckon it's time for a Labour government in this country. Though by no means angels themselves, they are our best alternatives

They'll higher the 12.5% corp tax rate. If they do that KPMG Intel and Mircosot will leave.

They supply 80% of the governments revenue in PRSI PAYE

mikom

cojack101 wrote: »

They'll higher the 12.5% corp tax rate. If they do that KPMG Intel and Mircosot will leave.

What?

Biggins

cojack101 wrote: »

They'll higher the 12.5% corp tax rate. If they do that KPMG Intel and Microsoft will leave.

They supply 80% of the governments revenue in PRSI PAYE

:eek:

Where the hell did you pull that one from!

Craebear

Well given a choice between Fianna Fail, Fine gael and Labour, it's not worth voting. I'll stay at home and have a **** instead.

skelliser

cojack101 wrote: »

No no its Enda's new plan to get votes.

"Vote Enda and get a free Icecream"

But the craft B****rd is at it again. Turns out what he doesnt tell you is that its 1 ice cream for the registered voters. Not one icecream per registered voter.

But in all seriousness if he gets in.. which is likely, he'll sink the country. And I know FF have made a balls of it, but Enda will put the country under, like under under.

Once again this country has been bankrupted by FF. I dont think you can get any more "under" then that.
FG/LABOUR or whoever can do no worse then this current shower.

Its goin to be a great day when FF get the slaughtered in the election!

cojack101

mikom wrote: »

What?

They wont give a def answer on it. Its all hmmm and hawing.

Thats not a risk I'll take.

Anyone that comes to my door looking for votes, and they wont give me a definite "we will fight tooth and nail to keep Ireland out of a EU level corp tax rate" or a definite and simple "NO we will not raise it" I stay the hell away from.

Asked them at the last elections when they came a knocking

skelliser

cojack101 wrote: »

They'll higher the 12.5% corp tax rate. If they do that KPMG Intel and Mircosot will leave.

They supply 80% of the governments revenue in PRSI PAYE

link please?

how much are they paying you in mount street?

do us a favour and stop trolling and deflecting the thread.

Grimreaper666

Craebear wrote: »

Well given a choice between Fianna Fail, Fine gael and Labour, it's not worth voting. I'll stay at home and have a **** instead.

I won't even be staying at home, i'm getting the f**k out of here, they'll probably bring in a **** tax at the rate things are going....

cojack101

Biggins wrote: »

:eek:

Where the hell did you pull that one from!

Microsoft KPMG and Intel pay their corp tax on world wide income through Ireland. It might not be exactly 80%, but it follows the basic 80 20 rule of most things.

Grimreaper666

skelliser wrote: »

Once again this country has been bankrupted by FF. I dont think you can get any more "under" then that.
FG/LABOUR or whoever can do no worse then this current shower.

Its goin to be a great day when FF get the slaughtered in the election!

I hope the f**kers are dragged through the streets Taliban style!

Prof.Badass

Craebear wrote: »

Well given a choice between Fianna Fail, Fine gael and Labour, it's not worth voting. I'll stay at home and have a **** instead.

Meh, spoiling a vote can always be fun. We could write this on our ballot slips;

"They'll higher the 12.5% corp tax rate. If they do that KPMG Intel and Mircosot will leave.

They supply 80% of the governments revenue in PRSI PAYE".

mikom

Grimreaper666 wrote: »

I won't even be staying at home, i'm getting the f**k out of here, they'll probably bring in a **** tax at the rate things are going....

Under the blankets......... an ould stealth tax.

orourkeda

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Erm.. people saying IMF, didn't the EU create 440 billion euro fund to prevent PIIGS from defaulting?

And piigs might fly

Biggins

cojack101 wrote: »

Microsoft KPMG and Intel pay their corp tax on world wide income through Ireland. It might not be exactly 80%, but it follows the basic 80 20 rule of most things.

Superstitious and no data back-up.

cojack101

Ok and Im leaving some other big companies out.

Google, PWC SCF (They pay 12.5% on well over a billion a year in Irl) - and alot of other multi nationals. But these multi nationals covered circa 80% of what comes in the door.

They all stay because of the corp tax rate

LarrytheLantern

yep labour will cosy up to their over-paid public sector union buddies whose inefficiency & incompetence contributed in no small way in getting us into this mess, and who are now bleeding us dry.

they will create another few dozen quangos to look after those that lost their jobs, pour more money into the likes of An FARCE.

Lab are great for a good sound-bite but i'm totally unconvinced of their "STRATEGY" forgetting us out of this mess.

LAB would be a serious mistake imo.

Biggins

Going way off topic...

orourkeda

Craebear wrote: »

Well given a choice between Fianna Fail, Fine gael and Labour, it's not worth voting. I'll stay at home and have a **** instead.

There's always one. The auld stay at home whinger who coulnt be bothered to get up off their arse and help bring about a change.

Wolfe Tone

That skit was a disgrace, not even slightly impartial, a plain attack, makes a mockery of the program and what it is meant for.

Gigiwagga

some_dose wrote: »

As much as it might be crazy to say, I honestly reckon it's time for a Labour government in this country. Though by no means angels themselves, they are our best alternatives

Oh yeah bring on Joan 'Hardball' Burton, she'll sort things out, lol, another waffler.

starbelgrade

LarrytheLantern wrote: »

no our politicians are perfectly in touch with reality i believe.
they know only too well they have their nice cosy "jobs", their plush state cars and their index linked pensions to look forward to.

sadly their reality and that of the average guy in the street seldom meet.

they realise only too well that if they give joe soap a few meaningless stats, and the prospect of an upturn in our economic fortunes, poor old joe will probably re-elect them to office.

welcome to REALITY.:eek:

If there was a prize for stating the bleeding obvious, you'd be the winner.

skelliser

orourkeda wrote: »

There's always one. The auld stay at home whinger who coulnt be bothered to get up off their arse and help bring about a change.

Not forgetting the "sure the other crowd are all the same" line.

Two classic FF excuses touted in a desperate attempt to stave of the impending bloodletting.

Tired and stale at this stage.

cojack101

skelliser wrote: »

link please?

how much are they paying you in mount street?

do us a favour and stop trolling and deflecting the thread.

In 2004 25.2 billion from US companies ALONE was delcared in Ireland http://www.finfacts.ie/irelandeconomy/usmultinationalprofitsireland.htm This doesnt include European and Asian companies that delare their profits here.

Heres some information on the topic:

IMDO - http://www.imdo.ie/imdo/business/tax-environment

SDF Group - http://www.scfgroup.com/uk_migration.html

Ronan Lyons - http://www.ronanlyons.com/2009/06/22/can-ireland-afford-to-increase-its-corporate-tax-rate/

KPMG - http://www.kpmg.com/IE/en/IssuesAndInsights/ArticlesPublications/Documents/Transport/Tonnage_tax.pdf

Kirk and Ass. - http://www.kirkandassociates.ie/3yrcortax.html

skelliser

NO.

I want a link to were you said FG would raise the corporate tax rate!

cojack101

Apologies all for off topic direction in conversation. Will try to keep it to a min in future.

Biggins

cojack101 wrote: »

In 2004 25.2 billion from US companies ALONE was delcared in Ireland http://www.finfacts.ie/irelandeconomy/usmultinationalprofitsireland.htm This doesnt include European and Asian companies that delare their profits here.

Heres some information on the topic:

IMDO - http://www.imdo.ie/imdo/business/tax-environment

SDF Group - http://www.scfgroup.com/uk_migration.html

Ronan Lyons - http://www.ronanlyons.com/2009/06/22/can-ireland-afford-to-increase-its-corporate-tax-rate/

KPMG - http://www.kpmg.com/IE/en/IssuesAndInsights/ArticlesPublications/Documents/Transport/Tonnage_tax.pdf

Kirk and Ass. - http://www.kirkandassociates.ie/3yrcortax.html

General company info and tax generalities do not back-up your specific claim.

Please provide correct direct data as back-up to your way out there original claim or stop with such possible rubbish.