Barclays best ever premier league XI

timetogetfit · 21-09-2010 3:50pm #1

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12193_6390557,00.html

Such a joke of a team, how Keane and Ronaldo aren't on it is laughable

3hn2givr7mx1sc · 21-09-2010 3:52pm

Gerrard? Fúck sake.
Terry? Fúck off.

SlickRic · 21-09-2010 3:53pm

pay no attention.

it has 6 Englishmen.

automatically means it's boll*x.

timetogetfit · 21-09-2010 3:53pm

Keane>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Gerrard

Xavi6 · 21-09-2010 3:55pm

baz2009 wrote: »

Gerrard? Fúck sake.

Gerrard is the most complete midfielder to have played in the Prem imo.

Bergkamp >>>>>>>>>>>> Cantona btw

Professey Chin · 21-09-2010 3:56pm

Least they got the Keeper right :cool:

timetogetfit · 21-09-2010 3:58pm

Xavi6 wrote: »

Gerrard is the most complete midfielder to have played in the Prem imo.

Bergamp >>>>>>>>>>>> Cantona btw

Rubbish talk, the fact Xabi Alonso isn't at Liverpool anymore with the state they are in and is much better player then SG just proves how inadequate SG is in CM

Dancor · 21-09-2010 3:59pm

No Shearer

timetogetfit · 21-09-2010 4:00pm

Henry is the only player that would get in a best united premiership 11, the proof is the amount of times they have won it

shano_88 · 21-09-2010 4:00pm

Xavi6 wrote: »

Gerrard is the most complete midfielder to have played in the Prem imo.

I would definetly have Roy Keane and Viera ahead of him.

Id probably have Ashley Cole ahead of Evra, even though hes a ****!

Xavi6 · 21-09-2010 4:01pm

timetogetfit wrote: »

Rubbish talk, the fact Xabi Alonso isn't at Liverpool anymore with the state they are in and is much better player then SG just proves how inadequate SG is in CM

You do realise that Gerrard played for Liverpool and won plenty of trophies before Alonso arrived right?

Mitch Connor · 21-09-2010 4:02pm

Dancor wrote: »

No Shearer

thought that was odd myself.

On records, I'd have gone Shearer and Henry up front I reckon.

Midfield would be all United though, Scholes Keane and Giggs are easy picks for me, then it would be a choice between Ronaldo and Pires; with me going for Ronaldo.

Defence would be Neville, Adams and Cole as certainties, not sure who I would give the other spot to. Campbel, Ferdinand, Terry, Stam, Hypia etc - all good shouts. Schmeichel in goals for me as well, I think Seaman would run him closest.

applehunter · 21-09-2010 4:03pm

No Shearer and Keane.

Not valid.

JPA · 21-09-2010 4:03pm

Saw this earlier. No Shearer means it can be instantly ignored.

Warper · 21-09-2010 4:05pm

Ashley Cole, Bergkamp and Keane should definitely be in there

timetogetfit · 21-09-2010 4:05pm

Xavi6 wrote: »

You do realise that Gerrard played for Liverpool and won plenty of trophies before Alonso arrived right?

He is also hyped up to the last by the english media, its still baffling to them why england dont have the best midfield in the world with stevy G and F lamp when they reality they are light years behind true great midfielders

Steve gerards best position is just behind a striker and just ahead of a midfield 2, thats where he played when liverpool almost won the league 2 years ago, with Torres in front of him and alonso and mascherano just behind

Xavi6 · 21-09-2010 4:08pm

timetogetfit wrote: »

He is also hyped up to the last by the english media, its still baffling to them why england dont have the best midfield in the world with stevy G and F lamp when they reality they are light years behind true great midfielders

Steve gerards best position is just behind a striker and just ahead of a midfield 2, thats where he played when liverpool almost won the league 2 years ago, with Torres in front of him and alonso and mascherano just behind

In later years I agree. Between 01 and 05 roughly though I think he was the epitome of the box to box midfielder and was a joy to watch.

ctrl-alt-delete · 21-09-2010 4:09pm

Well they are no good at banking,

and they are no good at picking the best ever Premier League XI

There must be some terms and conditions that are very hard to find that have ruled out some of the greatest players to grace the Premier League.

SlickRic · 21-09-2010 4:10pm

Xavi6 wrote: »

In later years I agree. Between 01 and 05 roughly though I think he was the epitome of the box to box midfielder and was a joy to watch.

it makes me happy that a non-Pool fan has acknowledged this.

gleep · 21-09-2010 4:13pm

Evra? Bollix.

No Shearer? Bollix.

GARY FUKCIN NEVILLE? MEBOLLIX

PCPhoto · 21-09-2010 4:15pm

the team is made up of people who were voted for by topflight customers .... obviously they have a fair amount of young manchester fans !!

granted the Utd team in the 90's would feature heavily -but the players of today would not really compete with some of the players at the start of the premier league.

you cant have a premier league top XI without Alan Shearer, apart from that theres a lot to choose from - names like paulo di canio , tony adams , gianfranco zola...etc etc - even players like Jari litmanen, jan aage fjortoft and klinsman should be considered (even for the bench - just for what they brought to the game)

there were plenty of workhorse players in the early 90s - a lot of whom will never get the recognition they deserved.

PJTierney · 21-09-2010 4:17pm

Schmeichel: Yes

Neville: Yes
Terry: Yes
Adams: Yes
Evra: I'm sure there's a better left back..

Beckham: Yes
Scholes: Yes
Gerrard: No, Keane instead.
Giggs: Yes.

Henry: Yes.
Cantona: No, Shearer.

Not a bad list, just iffy on 3 spots really. (I'm a Man U fan btw)

staker · 21-09-2010 4:21pm

Surprised Jamie didn't make it himself tbh.

Mr.Nice Guy · 21-09-2010 4:21pm

gleep wrote:

GARY FUKCIN NEVILLE? MEBOLLIX

That's surely the most obvious one of all. If you can name a better PL right-back I'll be very impressed.

Regards this XI, it stinks of bias with seven British in there. Not being biased as an Irishman, or United fan, when I say Keane beats Gerrard every time. For me in the pantheon of great midfielders it's Keane first, Vieira a close second, and the likes of Gerrard, Lampard behind. The battles of Keane and Vieira were always heavyweight tussles and have yet to be matched imo.

Also Irwin should be in ahead of Evra who hasn't surpassed him yet. Irwin could play either side, use both feet equally well, provide more assists than Evra and score from free kicks and penalties.

I'd probably have Bergkamp in there too. At his peak he was phenomenal. If he'd been at Barca at the time he would have been hailed as the world's best probably. Shearer merits a spot too.

SlickRic · 21-09-2010 4:26pm

right then, i'll be the first to actually post the team i think it 'should' be...even though i've probably posted this team before in one of the many threads like this...

Schmeichel

Neville----Adams----Hyypia

Cole
Ronaldo---Keane---Scholes

Giggs

Henry---Shearer

easy.

Schmeichel wins easily enough, but Seaman was Mr Reliable unless he was in an England shirt at a WC. so he runs him close-ish.

Hyypia is biased as f*ck, but i have serious man-love for him. in reality, i'd probably put Campbell, Carvalho or Rio in there.

Giggs is pushed close by the couple of mental seasons Pires had at Arsenal, but Giggs has to just about win based on longevity.

Henry and Shearer are miles in front as far as i'm concerned.

3hn2givr7mx1sc · 21-09-2010 4:30pm

My team would be close enough, but a few changes:

Schmeichel

Neville--Adams--Ferdinand--Cole
Ronaldo--Keane--Scholes--Giggs

Henry----Shearer

Having a brain fart with CB, but Ferdinand is better than Terry, imo, who is vastly overrated.
Difficult leaving Beckham, Cantona, RVN, Bergkamp and Zola out.

Vanbis · 21-09-2010 4:30pm

Xavi6 wrote: »

Gerrard is the most complete midfielder to have played in the Prem imo.

Bergkamp >>>>>>>>>>>> Cantona btw

Bergkamp was the first name for me that was missing. Zola was voted the best foreigner player in the Premier league and he some how misses out :rolleyes:

gleep · 21-09-2010 4:32pm

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

That's surely the most obvious one of all. If you can name a better PL right-back I'll be very impressed.

Lee Dixon

Xavi6 · 21-09-2010 4:39pm

Schmeichel

Beckham

Keane

Vieira

Giggs

Gerrard

Scholes

Ronaldo

Bergkamp

Henry

Shearer

Accomodating players ftw

stiffler123 · 21-09-2010 4:39pm

Matt Le Tissier- my favourite player to ever play in the PL.

SlickRic · 21-09-2010 4:40pm

the first person to type out a team of Gary Breens gets banned...

pickarooney · 21-09-2010 4:45pm

SlickRic wrote: »

pay no attention.

it has 6 Englishmen.

automatically means it's boll*x.

But yet they chose Cantona over Alan Shearer.

In fact, the top two goalscorers in Premiership history, both English and with almost 450 between them, were overlooked.

Dublin_Gunner · 21-09-2010 4:47pm

Andy Cole has to have a serious shout FFS. I'd arguably have him and Shearer instead of Henry. Or indeed go 4-3-3

In which case

Schmeichel

Finnan

Adams----Hyypia----Cole
Beckham

Vieira/Keane

Giggs

Henry

Shearer

A Cole

There you go, an all scoring, all defending, ball winning team to challenge all.

Can't decide on CM. But one or the other.

My RB decision may be a little Irish/Liverpool biased

gleep · 21-09-2010 4:50pm

Here goes then, feck it

Schmeichel

Dixon----Adams----Carragher

Irwin
Juninho---Keane---Scholes

Giggs

Henry---Shearer

Carragher wasn't himself last year, but IMHO he is 5 times the defender Rio is. Complete consistencey and commitment, with no lack of skill, born to defend and a proper example of how it should be done.

Irwin just shades Cole because he was so good for so long and came up with big performances in big games.

Dixon ahead of Neville? Every day. Neville was always suspect, always had to resort to cynical fouls, he just got away with it because he played for Man U. True story.

Remember the wee Brazilian at Middlesboro? He was feckin mesmerising. And no prima-donna, he fought as hard as Keane and had the skills of Ronaldo (almost). He raised the standard of every game he played in and you actually wanted to see him do well, that's why he goes in ahead of C.Ronaldo.

Shearer is a must. Then either Henry, Zola, Bergkamp, Andy Cole, Fowler and I'd say Drogba's up there now.

Vanbis · 21-09-2010 4:52pm

Xavi6 wrote: »

In later years I agree. Between 01 and 05 roughly though I think he was the epitome of the box to box midfielder and was a joy to watch.

I'd be in agreement with you Xavi6, pointless argument.

Schmeichel:

Irwin:
Vidic
Carvalho
A Cole

Beckham
Scholes
Keane
Giggs

Henry
Shearer

homerjay2005 · 21-09-2010 4:56pm

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

Andy Cole has to have a serious shout FFS. I'd arguably have him and Shearer instead of Henry. Or indeed go 4-3-3

im a united fan and have great time for the guy, but no, no he shouldnt...he had as many bad years at united (first 3) as he had good years(last 3)

ronaldo has to be on it. in fact, considering he was world player of the year during his 6 year spell, he surely would deserve a place on the all time english league 11. surely there aint been more than 11 world player of the years playing in the english top flight?

irwin also has to be in there, i would put him in before neville.

beckham, scholes and giggs have to be in, which means its between viera and keane and surely keane gets it?

would have ronaldo then and another up top from cantona,shearer, rooney, henry, bergkamp and drogba.

Quazzie · 21-09-2010 4:57pm

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

Andy Cole has to have a serious shout FFS. I'd arguably have him and Shearer instead of Henry. Or indeed go 4-3-3

That has to be the most retarded thing I've ever read on the soccer forum. How can anyone be serious when they say they would have Andy Cole in a team ahead of Thierry Henry?

Sir Gallagher · 21-09-2010 4:59pm

PCPhoto wrote: »

the team is made up of people who were voted for by topflight customers .... obviously they have a fair amount of young manchester fans !!

granted the Utd team in the 90's would feature heavily -but the players of today would not really compete with some of the players at the start of the premier league.

you cant have a premier league top XI without Alan Shearer, apart from that theres a lot to choose from - names like paulo di canio , tony adams , gianfranco zola...etc etc - even players like Jari litmanen, jan aage fjortoft and klinsman should be considered (even for the bench - just for what they brought to the game)

there were plenty of workhorse players in the early 90s - a lot of whom will never get the recognition they deserved.

Come off it ffs. We're talking about the cream of the crop here.

maynooth_rules · 21-09-2010 5:00pm

Surprised some people are mentioning Backham. While a decent winger, it was just the media that made people believe that he was actually world class. he was nowhere near it. remember for most of the season before he left, Sloskjaer was keeping him out of the team thanks to his great performances on the right wing.

Iago · 21-09-2010 5:13pm

Too many players to choose from really for these things to ever make complete sense, some positions are easier than others.

The keeper is almost a shoe-in and Schmeichel has to be top of the list although it could be argued that Seamen runs him close and in a few more years Reina will be able to argue his case given his form for the last few years.

Right back is between Neville & Dixon and I think Neville takes it on the back of ability and duration really.

Left back imo comes down to Irwin/Cole/Evra, and at the moment I'd have Irwin there but again Cole & Evra both have genuine claims on it.

At CB you've a wealth of choices, Adams/Terry/Ferdinand/Hypia are probably the stand out players but there's another half dozen that might feel hard done by.

RM simply has to be Ronaldo there's no justification for not having him in the team, despite it leaving a lot of really good players on the sideline

Similarly I think LM has to be Giggs both for his ability and his consistency

CM could be any two of Scholes/Gerrard/Keane/Lampard/Viera but as a pair I'd have Scholes & Keane

Up front Henry & Shearer for me

eZe^ · 21-09-2010 5:17pm

I'd go with;

Schmeichel

-Neville----Ferdinand

Adams

Cole-

Keane

Scholes

Vieira

Bergkamp

Henry

Giggs

event · 21-09-2010 5:19pm

maynooth_rules wrote: »

Surprised some people are mentioning Backham. While a decent winger, it was just the media that made people believe that he was actually world class. he was nowhere near it. remember for most of the season before he left, Sloskjaer was keeping him out of the team thanks to his great performances on the right wing.

in his last season for united he played over fifty times

he only did this one other time in his united career. The last season was his second highest for appearances.

So you're wrong there chief

And saying he was only decent, jaysus!

event · 21-09-2010 5:22pm

For me its

Schmeichel

Irwin

Adams

Ferdinand

Cole

Ronaldo--Scholes----Keane---Giggs

henry----shearer

efb · 21-09-2010 5:24pm

No DB10? I'll get my coat...

Pepe LeFrits · 21-09-2010 5:25pm

Dixon played until he was 38 and made 458 league appearances for Arsenal. You can argue Neville was a better defender fair enough, but he'd be doing well to match Dixon in the longevity department (35 and is just shy of 400 apps).

Le King · 21-09-2010 5:30pm

Schmeichel
Neville Adams Stam Evra
Ronaldo Keane Scholes Giggs
Henry Cantona

*May include serious bias.

Also on the arguement of my inclusion of Jaap Stam was that in his brief spell in the premier league he is the second best defender of my life, IMO, after Maldini.
Obviously many will disagree but no one could doubt the man's class.

Iago · 21-09-2010 5:38pm

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

Dixon played until he was 38 and made 458 league appearances for Arsenal. You can argue Neville was a better defender fair enough, but he'd be doing well to match Dixon in the longevity department (35 and is just shy of 400 apps).

Fair point, and I was being specific to Premier League years when I put that up but was doing Dixon a dis-service in terms of when I thought he retired.

10 or so premier league years isn't to be sniffed at and it's a fairly close call between himself and Neville for RB.

nullzero · 21-09-2010 5:42pm

The love affair with Henry continues.

I don't think any serious football fan would even consider John Terry as being anywhere near the best defender in the league currently, never mind of all time.
These lists are always daft.

eZe^ · 21-09-2010 5:46pm

nullzero wrote: »

The love affair with Henry continues.

Rofl! Ya, how biased of us to entertain the notion of including arguably the best and most consistent performer in world football from 1999 to 2010.

SlickRic · 21-09-2010 5:50pm

eZe^ wrote: »

Rofl! Ya, how biased of us to entertain the notion of including arguably the best and most consistent performer in world football from 1999 to 2010.

Player of the 00's if you fuse brilliance with consistency.

he's more of a shoo-in than Ronaldo, Scholes, Keane, Giggs and Schmeichel IMO; and that's saying an awful lot.

Pepe LeFrits · 21-09-2010 5:54pm

Schmeichel
Dixon Campbell Pallister Cole
Gerrard Keane Scholes
Ronaldo Shearer Henry

... but I do change my mind every 5 minutes.

Barclays best ever premier league XI

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