Anglo Staff Member Commits Suicide - Sean Fitzpatrick still laughing

jetsonx

A very tragic story of an Anglo customer service representative who committed suicide recently due to the abuse he endured from the public while working there.

http://www.tribune.ie/article/2010/sep/19/anglo-employee-abused-by-customers-takes-his-own-l/


While, other people like Fitzpatrick just laughing.
I find it quite sick.


http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/wife-worth-euro3m-as-seanie-laughs-all-the-way-to-court-2349465.html

scientific1982

Sean Fitzpatrick should be tried for economic treason.

Biggins

scientific1982 wrote: »

Sean Fitzpatrick should be tried for economic treason.

At least he's still in the country!
A lot of the rest scarpered and were allowed do so.

seamus

To be fair, this isn't Sean Fitzpatrick's fault.

It's the fault of the morons who have been/are giving ordinary staff members abuse because of who they're working for.

Standing outside abusing people going in and out of the building? Animals. They're to blame for this guy's death.

danbohan

scientific1982 wrote: »

Sean Fitzpatrick should be tried for economic treason.

why bother with a trial , hes guilty , hang him now

Nijmegen

I agree that the public giving abuse to Anglo staff members is not on. That's like giving abuse to any customer service rep, anywhere. Even when frustrated with a company I make a point to tell them "I know this is not your fault, and I'm sorry if I sound agitated," and I find they respond well to that.

How and ever, I also agree that Seanie needs to at the very least find himself chain ganged to a bunch of other jokers who were in the top tiers of Irish society and economy and sent out to clean the streets.

curlzy

Colour me not surprised, at all. Sure how much did the taxpayer fork out for the Mahon Tribunal, that proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that Bertie was as crooked as a 7 euro note. That tribunal (which is ongoing) cost us literally millions, and what was the outcome, where was the punishment??? The rich and powerful of this country are laughing their asses off because they NEVER pay for their crimes EVER. But Joe public? Joe public is ****ed until Joe public gets angry and demands change, but I've been waiting to jump aboard that ship for the last couple of years but I really think Irish Society have lost their passion, the lads that died for our independence must be sorry they bothered!!! We've exchanged the English for FF, I know I feel like a serf.

RoadKillTs

Very sad

R.I.P

Vim Fuego

I feel bad for that guy's wife & kids. In this case, it did say they moved him to a non-public facing role so Anglo did what they could for him. Jesus, just quit* - the only people that should be swinging for this are Seanie, Fingers & co.

*yeah, easy for me to say I know but still, I'd give unemployment a go before the noose. It's not like his wife & kids will be getting any insurance money now or anything. Sorry to be critical of the guy but I've seen this sort of thing in my own life and it's frustrating to see.

petes

This turns my stomach. People should be ashamed of themselves.

My heart goes out to his wife and kids. R.I.P.

Max Power1

danbohan wrote: »

why bother with a trial , hes guilty , hang him now

trial by media?

We are now one step away from mob rule.

Biggins

Insurgent wrote: »

This turns my stomach. People should be ashamed of themselves.
My heart goes out to his wife and kids. R.I.P.

Amen.

If the actual un-informed, uneducated spitting assholes of this country want to vent their anger, well the Dail opens up shortly.
Go to the gates of that building and protest there! Its not as if there isn't enough reason!

Interesting read: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/blogs/ireland/as-dil-returns-from-12-week-break-things-are-going-to-get-ugly-p44.html

ILA

The two events are not linked. Giving abuse to the ordinary workers in Anglo is not on, obviously if such things are happening they should be reported to the Gardai. Official protests are a different thing entirely, and people should be encouraged to channel their aggro through them.

No one should feel sorry for Seanie Fitzpatrick, he's not on the dole, he's not on the breadline, he doesn't actually live on 188 a month. All his assets are legally held by his wife and children so they are legally offlimits to the authorities of the state.

Obviously, at least he stayed around and is cooperating with the relevant authorities, unlike Brendan Drumm and Co. who scampered off to the far corners of the earth like current and future generations have been condemned to do.

There was a triangle of culpable persons: Developers > Bankers > Government. To date, very few of these have paid any price for their deliberate greed and subsequent destruction of people's lives.

Plautus

Looks to be a case of the same incoherent anger that sustains a typical audience on The Frontline except this time it had actual (negative) consequence.

Sticky_Fingers

From OP's Indo link

There were extraordinary scenes following the brief court appearance when the disgraced banker was given a warm welcome in the Barrister's Tea Room in the Four Courts.
A number of lawyers gathered in the law library's restaurant, shook his hand and joined him for mid-morning tea.

I think I'm going to be sick

moonpurple

today independant newspaper

http://www.independent.ie/national-n...t-2349465.html

everyone has to use the four courts entrance facing the river unless you have the ID to use the law library entrance, city centre end, side street, which means that your are a barrister, solicitor, courts service employee, or still a protected insider..sean fitzpatrick

this guy is no longer laughing up his sleeve at us, he is just laughing at us..:cool:

one rule for some
another rule for everybody else?

latenia

Obviously I feel sorry for the man's family but he was part of a criminal organisation that has stolen 10s of thousands of euros fom each of us and he benefitted financially from this. Getting called cunts or being spat at is a very small price for what has been done to the country, no matter what level of the organisation they work at.

Nijmegen

I wonder when some poor fellow who is down on his last penny, wondering how he'll feed his two kids, will decide for a murder-suicide involving Seanie.

Not that I'd advise such a course.

Just the murder would be fine.

AAAAAAAHHH

latenia wrote: »

Obviously I feel sorry for the man's family but he was part of a criminal organisation that has stolen 10s of thousands of euros fom each of us and he benefitted financially from this. Getting called cunts or being spat at is a very small price for what has been done to the country, no matter what level of the organisation they work at.

Are you serious? **** off out of here.

seamus

latenia wrote: »

Obviously I feel sorry for the man's family but he was part of a criminal organisation that has stolen 10s of thousands of euros fom each of us and he benefitted financially from this.

Bull****. That's the most specious reasoning I've ever heard. He benefitted financially because he was just doing a job. It could have been any bank or any institution. Unless he sat at the table that made the decisions, then he cannot possibly be liable for the decisions that they made.

As far as he knew, he was just working in a bank. His former employer screwed up, his employer was taken over by a new board. At no point was this guy involved with, or to blame for what Anglo Irish have done. His continuing employment there does not make him share in the blame.

In before the Godwin:
No, this has zero resemblence to members of the German Army during WWII.

onedaylikethis

Sticky_Fingers wrote: »

From OP's Indo link



I think I'm going to be sick

Yea, this is definitely vomit inducing. We Irish have always loved a rogue but this man is a parasite who should and i reckon will be brought to justice eventually. The ordinary bank employees get abuse and the top men get a pat on the back and a round of golf with the rest of their elite cronies.

petes

latenia wrote: »

Obviously I feel sorry for the man's family but he was part of a criminal organisation that has stolen 10s of thousands of euros fom each of us and he benefitted financially from this. Getting called cunts or being spat at is a very small price for what has been done to the country, no matter what level of the organisation they work at.

Cop to fcuk on.

moonpurple

george hook on newstalk was getting grumpy when sean fitzpatrick got lifted by the gardai one morning with tipped off journalists, (pantomime)

george wants to be part of the in crowd who live near the sea in south dublin..

fitzpatrick is still being protected by some of these folks

another evening george hook described how his mother and grandmother would take the bus to bring food to his special needs aunt who was confined to a facility in cork city where the food was bad and in small amounts

let me spell this out..because of the greed of people like sean fitzpatrick - the very basics of a very basic life for vulnerable irish people will be undermined further, food will be bad and in small amounts for people like george hook's late aunt

and Fitzpatrick has the lack of shame or personal insight to not laugh into the faces of the irish:cool:

in america they go to jail
in ireland they continue golfing
you may not believe in irish faeries, leprachauns or the 'little people'
but david drumm sean fitzpatrick and others know the 'little people' exist, its you and I buddy
you and I
'the great appear great because you are on your knees, rise' Jim Larkin, statue, OConnell street Dublin 1

bonerm

moonpurple wrote: »

one rule for some
another rule for everybody else?

Eh yes, are you surprised by that? There is very clear dividing line in this country between the "real" people and the rest of us. People would be better off waking up to this fact, tearing the country apart brick-by-brick (or suit-by-suit) and starting again rather than focusing all their energy on wishing some guy token prison time for what is effectively the cumulative folly of a boys club.

mike65

latenia wrote: »

Obviously I feel sorry for the man's family but he was part of a criminal organisation that has stolen 10s of thousands of euros fom each of us and he benefitted financially from this. Getting called cunts or being spat at is a very small price for what has been done to the country, no matter what level of the organisation they work at.

The most pathetic post anyone will read on boards.ie today....or possibly longer.

Has a single banker been charged with malfeasance?

Biggins

latenia wrote: »

Obviously I feel sorry for the man's family but he was part of a criminal organisation that has stolen 10s of thousands of euros fom each of us and he benefitted financially from this. Getting called cunts or being spat at is a very small price for what has been done to the country, no matter what level of the organisation they work at.

I would get banned for posting what I really would want to say in response to that post!

Sticky_Fingers

latenia wrote: »

Obviously I feel sorry for the man's family but he was part of a criminal organisation that has stolen 10s of thousands of euros fom each of us and he benefitted financially from this. Getting called cunts or being spat at is a very small price for what has been done to the country, no matter what level of the organisation they work at.

No this man was just a working stiff, he had no say or inkling as to what the the big men like Seanie were doing. Its one thing to despise someone for doing you wrong but this guy was nothing more than a tiny blinking LED in the Anglo machine. You should save your bile and ire for the men behind the curtain that truly deserve it and not waste it on the ordinary folk in the front office. They are average people like you and me who never so much as had a whiff of the good times so why should they suffer our belated anger and rage now.

Jarren

latenia wrote: »

Obviously I feel sorry for the man's family but he was part of a criminal organisation that has stolen 10s of thousands of euros fom each of us and he benefitted financially from this. Getting called cunts or being spat at is a very small price for what has been done to the country, no matter what level of the organisation they work at.

you are joking ....right??:eek::eek::eek:

Minstrel27

latenia wrote: »

Obviously I feel sorry for the man's family but he was part of a criminal organisation that has stolen 10s of thousands of euros fom each of us and he benefitted financially from this. Getting called cunts or being spat at is a very small price for what has been done to the country, no matter what level of the organisation they work at.

You really are a stupid and ignorant ****. Your post is by far the most pathetic I have ever seen. Go **** yourself.
Mod note: Poster banned for this post.

Riddle101

Whether Stephen Doyle couldn't cope with the abuse he was receiving is not the problem. The issue I have is that he left his wife and two nine month old daughters behind like that. I can't respect a man who would do something so selfish, so I won't be giving my condolences to the man. Instead I pray for the family that they will be able to cope now without him. I'm not sure if the wife works or not but these are hard economical times, and if the wife is taken care of the children then who is out bringing in the wages to support the family?

Minstrel27

Riddle101 wrote: »

I can't respect a man who would do something so selfish

I suggest you learn about suicide before making remarks like that.

thebaz

I find Sean Fitzpatricks arrogance knows no bounds - is he just pure evil ? - he has yet to apologise for the basket case that was Anglo and the untold damage it has caused to the state who have to pick up the tab - yet he expects us fools to believe he is living on 188 euros a month , less than social welfare, while he lives in amansion and golfs in Greystones , parties in Marbella, has numerous properties ...

not everyone in the country is a fool Seanie

Riddle101

Minstrel27 wrote: »

I suggest you learn about suicide before making remarks like that.

I know full well about sucide. But the fact that the man left his family behind is selfish

latenia

I'm not going to comment further because I'm only getting people's hackles up and the aftermath of this incident is the wrong time to make this point. At this stage every single staff member at Anglo is fully aware that they're in receipt of stolen money-the honourable thing to do would be to resign enmasse.

petes

Riddle101 wrote: »

I know full well about sucide. But the fact that the man left his family behind is selfish

You obviously don't know "full well" about suicide.

Minstrel27

Riddle101 wrote: »

I know full well about sucide. But the fact that the man left his family behind is selfish

Stop kidding yourself.

mikemac

He was customer services supervisor, the frontline
"Get me a supervisor" and you get this man

This was his job, his career and he was obviously good at it to get promoted
And then just takes abuse from the public, most of whom never dealt with Anglo Irish but are angry over the actions of the board members.

So they take out on the lower level staff.

People are fragile, if you tell someone they are worthless or scum every day some can't handle it.
To be fair to Anglo they did transfer him and that was good management.

All very sad.
Realy banker is such a ridiculous catch all term and includes everyone from directors to cashiers. Most anyone in a bank can take courses with the Institute of Bankers.
Actually, the term cashier isn't used anymore

flutered

Minstrel27 wrote: »

I suggest you learn about suicide before making remarks like that.

imo it takes a very brave person to do that, or else some one who required help,

jpt77

latenia wrote: »

Obviously I feel sorry for the man's family but he was part of a criminal organisation that has stolen 10s of thousands of euros fom each of us and he benefitted financially from this. Getting called cunts or being spat at is a very small price for what has been done to the country, no matter what level of the organisation they work at.

Idiotic post. Cop on.

mike65

latenia wrote: »

I'm not going to comment further because I'm only getting people's hackles up and the aftermath of this incident is the wrong time to make this point. At this stage every single staff member at Anglo is fully aware that they're in receipt of stolen money-the honourable thing to do would be to resign enmasse.

Ah right half a million on the dole and jack in a job cos Seanie is a crook? What planet are you on? the cannon fodder on the front line of customer services are not to be compared to Nazis who were "only following orders".

mikemac

latenia wrote: »

Obviously I feel sorry for the man's family but he was part of a criminal organisation that has stolen 10s of thousands of euros fom each of us and he benefitted financially from this. Getting called cunts or being spat at is a very small price for what has been done to the country, no matter what level of the organisation they work at.

Are you one of these people who walks into your local branch and shouts to the staff "We own you now"
As that goes on and has been reported.

The man was just doing his job, vent your anger at the correct people

Mr Benevolent

How is an election going to help? Enda Kenny looks like he's been touched by priests and Gilmore will be snuggling into the unions' anus as fast as you can say 'Labour'. Oh, and Gormley will be flouncing through the fields FAS bought picking flowers.

Face it, none of the other parties will be any better. An election will do nothing constructive.

danbohan

Max Power1 wrote: »

trial by media?

We are now one step away from mob rule.

we may very well end up there when the irish people really wake up to what has been done to them by people like seanie and fingers and clowen, lenihan etc

moonpurple

moonpurple wrote: »

george hook on newstalk was getting grumpy when sean fitzpatrick got lifted by the gardai one morning with tipped off journalists, (pantomime)

george wants to be part of the in crowd who live near the sea in south dublin..

fitzpatrick is still being protected by some of these folks

another evening george hook described how his mother and grandmother would take the bus to bring food to his special needs aunt who was confined to a facility in cork city where the food was bad and in small amounts

let me spell this out..because of the greed of people like sean fitzpatrick - the very basics of a very basic life for vulnerable irish people will be undermined further, food will be bad and in small amounts for people like george hook's late aunt

and Fitzpatrick has the lack of shame or personal insight to not laugh into the faces of the irish:cool:

in america they go to jail
in ireland they continue golfing
you may not believe in irish faeries, leprachauns or the 'little people'
but david drumm sean fitzpatrick and others know the 'little people' exist, its you and I buddy
you and I
'the great appear great because you are on your knees, rise' Jim Larkin, statue, OConnell street Dublin 1

this thread is not about latenia, the op was asking about sean fitzpatrick

deisedevil

Riddle101 wrote: »

I know full well about sucide. But the fact that the man left his family behind is selfish

It's got nothing to do with being selfish. Probably the most ignorant post I have read in some time. Even for after hours!

seamus

latenia wrote: »

At this stage every single staff member at Anglo is fully aware that they're in receipt of stolen money

If only it was illegal to handle stolen goods, then we could arrest them all....oh wait.

If you're so sure that they're all guilty of receiving stolen money, then why haven't you made a complaint to the Gardai yet?

Sticky_Fingers

latenia wrote: »

I'm not going to comment further because I'm only getting people's hackles up and the aftermath of this incident is the wrong time to make this point. At this stage every single staff member at Anglo is fully aware that they're in receipt of stolen money-the honourable thing to do would be to resign enmasse.

And what, go on the dole and pay their mortgage and feed their kids with their sense of moral superiority. I wonder how many of these corporate shills are living hand to mouth like many in this country, but to hell with that why not just throw them out on the street and be done with it. Its obviously what the braying mob demands so let them have their blood letting and feel all warm and righteous for a few moments until some other poor sod who happens to work for someone they don't like enters their sightline and becomes the new focus of attention.

Here's a thought go to a mirror and look into it. Recall that sense of invulnerability and smugness that you had way back in 2005, feels good doesn't it. Don't worry or feel ashamed we all had a taste, that sense that we were truly the masters of our own destiny and whatever we did we could do no wrong.

Well guess what we were partly right, we were the authors of our own destiny but most of us were too drunk with the good life to read where it would lead us. This poor bastard just forgot to read a little further and realise that all this money crap doesn't really matter, you only get one life and its worth more that all of Anglo's billions because its the most valuable thing you will ever own.

So stop calling for the guillotine for people you felt that gone and done you wrong and realise that we are all in this mess together because those responsible are definitely not going to either stick around or suicide themselves like this guy.


Condolences to the family

Loopy

This is such a tragic story.
I knew of the family and he was a gentleman. I can only imagine the pressure the poor guy was under. His poor little girls will never know their Dad.

kylith

deisedevil wrote: »

It's got nothing to do with being selfish. Probably the most ignorant post I have read in some time. Even for after hours!

It's not selfish to have no consideration for the people who found his body? or for his wife and how she's going to cope without her husband? or for his children who will grow up fatherless? or for his family and friends who will forever blame themselves for 'not seeing it' and wondering why he didn't talk to them about his problems?

I have nothing but sympathy for this poor man, but suicide is never a selfless act, no matter what the person may think at the time. His family will never get over this, and that is selfishness on his part; ending his own problems, but heaping 10 times the amount on his family.

Ash.J.Williams

kylith wrote: »

It's not selfish to have no consideration for the people who found his body? or for his wife and how she's going to cope without her husband? or for his children who will grow up fatherless? or for his family and friends who will forever blame themselves for 'not seeing it' and wondering why he didn't talk to them about his problems?

I have nothing but sympathy for this poor man, but suicide is never a selfless act, no matter what the person may think at the time. His family will never get over this, and that is selfishness on his part; ending his own problems, but heaping 10 times the amount on his family.

You really haven't a f**ing clue do you?

MingulayJohnny

feelingstressed wrote: »

He was customer services supervisor, the frontline
"Get me a supervisor" and you get this man

This was his job, his career and he was obviously good at it to get promoted
And then just takes abuse from the public, most of whom never dealt with Anglo Irish but are angry over the actions of the board members.

So they take out on the lower level staff.

People are fragile, if you tell someone they are worthless or scum every day some can't handle it.
To be fair to Anglo they did transfer him and that was good management.

All very sad.
Realy banker is such a ridiculous catch all term and includes everyone from directors to cashiers. Most anyone in a bank can take courses with the Institute of Bankers.
Actually, the term cashier isn't used anymore

I've worked in customer service\tech support now for over two years and while I've never been driven to contemplate suicide I can emphatise with this poor man. It definitely affects your health , I'm drained at this stage , if things weren't the way they are I'd have bailed after a year. The thing that affects you the most is having to be the apologist for the mistakes and policies of a giant company. You're basically a buffer between them and the public and despite what a lot of customers seem to think you have no power to change these rules and policies. You're the green meat the fellas ( and women ) that they send up & over the trenches first. The supervisor's role is exactly that they cannot change whatever rules a company has dictated irregardless of how unfair and ridiculous they are.

I'll try to help people as best I can but some people are either so obnoxious and stupid or both that it makes you despair for humanity. I've had anti Irish slurs , been threatened with legal action and one of my workmates had an official warning issued against him based on an unrecorded phone call where a customer claimed that he told him to 'F**k off'. I was beside him during this nightmare of a call and although he was close to saying this , he didn't go through with it.

I didn't know the man from this tragic story so I don't know if the stress of the job was just a trigger. But you definitely need some kind of serious stress relief besides drinking working in CS whether it's a punchbag or a massage the pressure has to release somehow.

As for SP and all of his ilk I can't describe the contempt that I have for them.