socket heights - flatscreens

enmac

the new rules state that sockets should be installed between 400 and 1200mm above final floor level - is this what is happening on site with regards to high level mounted LCDs and plasmas?

Solair

I think that only applies to "general sockets" i.e. for normal day-to-day use. The socket for your wall-mounted wide-screen is more of a one-off special socket. If it's inaccessible it should be connected to an isolating switch too so you can power-off the widescreen and that switch should be reachable by someone in a wheelchair to comply with the building regs

enmac

in domestic situation building regs only refer to light switces not sockets

could take the view that the tv is a fixed appliance in which case it requires a method of isolation within 2 metres of teh appliance and between 400 and 1600mm from ground level

is this what sparks are doing on site ?

M cebee

been looking at this lately in work: page 4

http://www.etci.ie/docs/ET101%28E&C06-2009%29.pdf
you're allowed go outside 400-1200 for dedicated socket outlets

i assume you need an isolating switch if the socket is above 1600 or inaccessible


is it correct building regs don't refer to sockets? seems to be the case

i had always asumed they referred to both -now i don't spend much time reading them!:D

enmac

thanks for that Mcebee - was missing that amendment

TV socket for flatscreen should be ok without isolation i reckon

Bruthal

enmac wrote: »

thanks for that Mcebee - was missing that amendment

TV socket for flatscreen should be ok without isolation i reckon

I usually put an isolating switch at the side of the tv or below it with sockets behind the tv if they will fit with tv plug in. Use the switch then to turn off the power.

ntpm

robbie7730 wrote: »

I usually put an isolating switch at the side of the tv or below it with sockets behind the tv if they will fit with tv plug in. Use the switch then to turn off the power.

Good practice Robbie.
Takes a bit of planning, especially if the customer doesnt know what size of screen or where they exactly want it.:(

Many people don't like to see a plug or cables when looking at their shinny new plasma/LED/ flatscreen.


So I tend to place the socket behing the screen if posible and have a separate issolation switch in a suitable position.

M cebee

handy for radials the DP switch and socket


what's the best way to spur off a ring for an appliance
-considering the possible warranty issues with cutting off plugs

always thought it was bad practice to 'series the 13amp fuses' -so i tend to cut off the plugs

i'm having second thoughts now

Bruthal

M cebee wrote: »

handy for radials the DP switch and socket


what's the best way to spur off a ring for an appliance
-considering the possible warranty issues with cutting off plugs

always thought it was bad practice to 'series the 13amp fuses' -so i tend to cut off the plugs

i'm having second thoughts now

Would`t of thought it much of a problem with 2 fuses in series, its done a lot with them small extension leads with the 4 socket outlets on them. or any extension lead.
I never wire ring mains myself, but when added in sockets or spurs i usually add the spur into the ring itself. Whats the situation with actually spurring with a 2.5 t&e from a ring socket out to a spur?

M cebee

ya prob no big deal

afaik from reading rules -all that's allowed is fused spurs on the ring like you say

and spur 'on the ring' feeding a 16amp socket

think there was a clampdown- including barring them in kitchens

Guy:Incognito

People are putting Tv's far too high nowadays anyway.

Just because it's on the wall doesnt mean it has to be touching the bloody ceiling. Whats wrong with putting it at a normal height where your not looking up all the time?

ntpm

M cebee wrote: »

handy for radials the DP switch and socket


what's the best way to spur off a ring for an appliance
-considering the possible warranty issues with cutting off plugs

always thought it was bad practice to 'series the 13amp fuses' -so i tend to cut off the plugs

i'm having second thoughts now

Just wondering if some of the newer TV plugs now have 3 or 5 Amp fuses in them???
This is why I use DP Fused Spur Switch with 13A fuse that feeds either a hidden single or double socket. But I always leave the original appliance plug and fuse in place.

M cebee

ya- i don't cut off many plugs

not tellys anyhow

darth_maul

cutting off a moulded plug on any electrical device will void any warranty