Liverpool Vs. Sunderland Setanta Sports 1 3.00pm 25/09/10

ctrl-alt-delete

Agger! what a chance, should have scored, didn't deserve a win though,

Game Over.

missingtime

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

livinginkorea

Oh lord, why is Agger there and not a forward.

livinginkorea

Game over, wish we could play that again.

5ForKeeps

Let the protests begin.

Mister men

Not good enough. The players we have we should have wiped the floor with Sunderland.

~Rebel~

Liverpool hurt my soul this season.

Watching out at my folks place, my father just came in and said "Jesus Paul, from the sound of it you should give up football and spend your time on something you like!"

Esse85

Cole looked dangerous, Kuyt is absolutely useless.

Kess73

Cannot argue with the draw.

Maybe some of my fellow reds will put some blame on the ref, but the ref cannot be blamed for the listless performance from Liverpool for the first hour or so..

bluefinger

The best i can say is at least we didn't lose. Looked so much better when we started to take the game to them.

And amazingly made ground on our rivals for the CL spots. (i haven't ruled it out yet)

citytillidie

Worried about the Blackpool game now next week after that performance

Ardent

Amazing how much better we played when Poulsen was replaced. All over them for the last 20 mins and should have won it. Ref was a disgrace.

Mister men

Esse85 wrote: »

Cole looked dangerous, Kuyt is absolutely useless.

Emm no he's not.

super_furry

Roy Hodgson is not, and never will be, a top four manager.

livinginkorea

Mister men wrote: »

Not good enough. The players we have we should have wiped the floor with Sunderland.

When you have strikers tackling in their own D and defenders trying to score, seems we have the roles all mixed up. Did Roy say play were ever you feel like?

DaNiEl1994

was torres the best liverpool player

Helix

super_furry wrote: »

Roy Hodgson is not, and never will be, a top four manager.

which is why he isnt managing a top four club

5ForKeeps

Esse85 wrote: »

Cole looked dangerous, Kuyt is absolutely useless.

:rolleyes:

SlickRic

that was pathetic until about 70 minutes.

if Hodgson can actually figure out why the f*ck we only start playing properly, and with urgency, when we go goals down, and can get us starting games like that, then it's possible that we might not have a disaster of a season.

but any more of this lethargic, sitting-back crap and the pattern wil continue like this for the forseeable future.

sunderland look a very tidy team, and were more than worth their point over the 90 minutes.

Ardent

Mister men wrote: »

Emm no he's not.

Emm yes he is.

Mrmoe

That first half can not be explained rationally. The majority of players should not have been tired and after the mid week result should have come out all guns blazing.

livinginkorea

Ardent wrote: »

Amazing how much better we played when Poulsen was replaced. All over them for the last 20 mins and should have won it. Ref was a disgrace.

That lad hasn't looked great yet at all.

niallo27

He was ****e on both sides, i dont think anyone will be blaming the ref, under shocking performance, we are stuck with a second rate manager and we are in a hole

Esse85

Mister men wrote: »

Emm no he's not.

Your right, he's good enough for a top 10 club like Liverpool.

ShamoBuc

A bad 2 points dropped at home, it really makes the Blackpool game a must win.

DOC09UNAM

super_furry wrote: »

Roy Hodgson is not, and never will be, a top four manager.

You have to take him on his merits bill, he is currently manager of a 7th place team, who have lost probably their best player.

Finical

Bring back Phil Thompson. :cool:

Remember that spell he had when Houllier was sick. :pac:

Ardent

SlickRic wrote: »

that was pathetic until about 70 minutes.

if Hodgson can actually figure out why the f*ck we only start playing properly, and with urgency, when we go goals down, and can get us starting games like that, then it's possible that we might not have a disaster of a season.

but any more of this lethargic, sitting-back crap and the pattern wil continue like this for the forseeable future.

sunderland look a very tidy team, and were more than worth their point over the 90 minutes.

Hodgson is still trying to figure out his best team. I think it should be obvious to him by now that it doesn't include Poulsen. Gerrard made a huge difference when he dropped back, Poulsen is too lethargic and offers SFA.

D'Agger

Esse85 wrote: »

Cole looked dangerous, Kuyt is absolutely useless.

Maybe I saw a different game because I saw Joe Cole do sweet fúck all for 90mins whereas Kuyt, fresh back from an injury allowed Johnson to get forwards and brought back a sense of stabillity to our team.

Not happy with a point to be honest, we weren't great but I was delighted to see us actually playing football out of the back instead of hoofing the ball forwards.

we were far too narrow - Meireles was absolutely wasted out wide and we were predictable to defend against - Again referring to Kuyt - all our decent attacks came down the right wing, himself and Johnson offered us width which is something we were sorely lacking

The Muppet

ShamoBuc wrote: »

A bad 2 points dropped at home, it really makes the Blackpool game a must win.

I thought this game was a must win.

Helix

The Muppet wrote: »

I thought this game was a must win.

the blackpool game is much bigger, a real six pointer between the two clubs from the looks of the season so far

Esse85

PaulieC wrote: »

Maybe I saw a different game because I saw Joe Cole do sweet fúck all for 90mins whereas Kuyt, fresh back from an injury allowed Johnson to get forwards and brought back a sense of stabillity to our team.

Not happy with a point to be honest, we weren't great but I was delighted to see us actually playing football out of the back instead of hoofing the ball forwards.

we were far too narrow - Meireles was absolutely wasted out wide and we were predictable to defend against - Again referring to Kuyt - all our decent attacks came down the right wing, himself and Johnson offered us width which is something we were sorely lacking

Maybe you did.

stumpypeeps

That was the poorest performance I've seen from Kuyt. Johnson is steadily getting worse. Carragher, Torres and Gerrard were usless today.

Poulsen was rubbish, even Reina looked uncertain.

We started the season ok, we're actually getting worse as it progresses.

Kess73

Mrmoe wrote: »

That first half can not be explained rationally. The majority of players should not have been tired and after the mid week result should have come out all guns blazing.

Why would they have come out with a point to prove when the manager made a point of telling the press that he told the players who were starting today that the midweek loss was nothing to do with them. The idea of playing for the shirt seems to be lost on a lot the players in the squad.

Chardee MacDennis

PaulieC wrote: »

Maybe I saw a different game because I saw Joe Cole do sweet fúck all for 90mins whereas Kuyt, fresh back from an injury allowed Johnson to get forwards and brought back a sense of stabillity to our team.

i am also confused about this, cole has yet to turn in a quality performance imo...

mada999

maybe the 1 up front has to go then... looked alot better when N'Gog came on (it was the same against utd).. drop Poulsen altogether..

Where was Mierles playing? he seemed a bit all over the place... he was playing ahead of Gerrard at some stages today.

Kuyt looked very tired and was not at the races
Mierles and Poulsen's passing was a bit dodge
Joe Cole was anonymous for most of the game
Torres did not get any service
Gerrard was ok but left gaps in the center of mid
Skyrtl was decent today i thought..

again... wingers are needed...

The Muppet

Says multitudes when Ngog is you hope from the bench. No offence to the young lad he may make an excellent player one day but he is nowhere near that level yet.

Kess73

stumpypeeps wrote: »

That was the poorest performance I've seen from Kuyt. Johnson is steadily getting worse. Carragher, Torres and Gerrard were usless today.

Poulsen was rubbish, even Reina looked uncertain.

We started the season ok, we're actually getting worse as it progresses.

Yep each game seems to bring an even more spineless performance.

D'Agger

Esse85 wrote: »

Maybe you did.

Super resposnse, I'm quite literally...blown away.

Give an actual argument as to why you think Kuyt was shocking there, for the craic

Ardent

stumpypeeps wrote: »

That was the poorest performance I've seen from Kuyt.

You obviously haven't watched us play much under Benitez then.

I still can't understand why the guy is still playing right side of midfield for us. We need a winger in there as Kuyt is too limited going forward.

bluefinger

stumpypeeps wrote: »

That was the poorest performance I've seen from Kuyt. Johnson is steadily getting worse. Carragher, Torres and Gerrard were usless today.

Poulsen was rubbish, even Reina looked uncertain.

We started the season ok, we're actually getting worse as it progresses.

yeah seems the virus has spread. everyone's infected.

D'Agger

stumpypeeps wrote: »

That was the poorest performance I've seen from Kuyt. Johnson is steadily getting worse. Carragher, Torres and Gerrard were usless today.

Poulsen was rubbish, even Reina looked uncertain.

We started the season ok, we're actually getting worse as it progresses.

I thought he did well tbh and allowed Johnson to attack a bit more freely, the right side was out best attacking outlet once we figured out that hammering down the middle wasn't working imo

livinginkorea

stumpypeeps wrote: »

That was the poorest performance I've seen from Kuyt. Johnson is steadily getting worse. Carragher, Torres and Gerrard were usless today.

Poulsen was rubbish, even Reina looked uncertain.

We started the season ok, we're actually getting worse as it progresses.

Torres did set up two goals. Totally agree with the rest. Johnson is really annoying me, getting a lot worse. Poulsen is a waste as well. Doesn't seem to win much in the 50/50s.

stumpypeeps

PaulieC wrote: »

Super resposnse, I'm quite literally...blown away.

Give an actual argument as to why you think Kuyt was shocking there, for the craic

Kuyt saw so much of the ball, he created one half chance for Torres. He was useless. Absolutely useless.

rossie1977

The Muppet wrote: »

Says multitudes when Ngog is you hope from the bench. No offence to the young lad he may make an excellent player one day but he is nowhere near that level yet.

didn't chelsea bring on sturridge today to try and get something from the game

livinginkorea

The Muppet wrote: »

Says multitudes when Ngog is you hope from the bench. No offence to the young lad he may make an excellent player one day but he is nowhere near that level yet.

Probably he sees what is happening to Babel and doesn't want to end up like him

bluefinger

stumpypeeps wrote: »

Kuyt saw so much of the ball, he created one half chance for Torres. He was useless. Absolutely useless.

and scored?

The Muppet

Johnsons hasn't got any worse, he has always been highly suspect defensively.

flahavaj

The Muppet wrote: »

Says multitudes when Ngog is you hope from the bench. No offence to the young lad he may make an excellent player one day but he is nowhere near that level yet.

In fairness N'Gog is a decent striker and probably deserves criticism less than any other Liverpool player this season.

Mr Alan

stumpypeeps wrote: »

Kuyt saw so much of the ball, he created one half chance for Torres. He was useless. Absolutely useless.

and scored a goal of course.

his first game back from injury, yet people picking on him again.

he'll probably get 10 assists & 10 goals this season & people will still say he is not good enough, very strange.