Wolves - Villa (2.05 KO)

Esse85 · 26-09-2010 3:38pm

JPA wrote: »

You're very angry. I'm sure GH is all too aware of the problems in the team but it won't change in a week.

I wasnt just referring to this particular game, MON was guilty of this more than anyone.

Patser · 26-09-2010 3:42pm

Downing's effectively playing Centre-mid now, so if we want to try win it bring on Ireland for him or NRC. If not then for Heskey.

If you don't think Ireland's up for it, then bring on Bannon.

Edit:

Cueller's been brilliant, no fuss just clear it.

Helix · 26-09-2010 3:45pm

Esse85 wrote: »

How sh1t are Villa when they take the lead, they couldnt control a game against an U12 team.
Why do we always retreat, sit back and invite teams onto us, if I can fcuking see it why cant the top guys see it.

its going to take time to fix these bad habits we've picked up over the past 2 1/2 years, but theyll be fixed. these are a team of guys who were coached and managed to kick the ball up the pitch and invite the opposition onto them time after time, itll take ged and his team at least a season to train it out of them. i think in the future we'll see a villa side who take the lead and then stroke the ball around, keeping possession instaed of giving it back all the time

Helix · 26-09-2010 3:47pm

Esse85 wrote: »

I wasnt just referring to this particular game, MON was guilty of this more than anyone.

its not that he didnt notice it, its that that was how he wanted the team to play. theres no chance that it wasnt intentional - it happened every single game so the players were being told to kick it long when we were in the lead, ive no doubt

Esse85 · 26-09-2010 3:48pm

Petrov off :eek:

Ronan Raver77 · 26-09-2010 3:50pm

get in:)

mike65 · 26-09-2010 3:50pm

Damnation.

Villa crap but win anyway, still get used to that under Ged.

Patser · 26-09-2010 3:50pm

HESKEY!!!:eek:

Froma Warnock cross!

Now i see why we're all not premiership managers.

Mars Bar · 26-09-2010 3:50pm

Hah, Heskey scores!

Raekwon · 26-09-2010 3:50pm

HESKEY!!!!!!!!

JPA · 26-09-2010 3:50pm

Helix wrote: »

its not that he didnt notice it, its that that was how he wanted the team to play. theres no chance that it wasnt intentional - it happened every single game so the players were being told to kick it long when we were in the lead, ive no doubt

I doubt they were told to kick it long, more like they weren't told what to do at all.

Get in Heskey.

Esse85 · 26-09-2010 3:50pm

Now, PLEASE see the game out.

Time Magazine · 26-09-2010 3:51pm

****ING BRILLIANT!

Bounty Hunter · 26-09-2010 3:51pm

Ivanhoe! FTW

Doodee · 26-09-2010 3:52pm

Heskey to get 20 this season?

:pac:

_Bella_ · 26-09-2010 3:52pm

Heskey to the rescue!

Helix · 26-09-2010 3:53pm

JPA wrote: »

I doubt they were told to kick it long, more like they weren't told what to do at all.

no chance, it absolutely HAD to be the gameplan. you dont do something like that time after time for 2-3 years without it being intentional

anyway, what a header from the lump! absolutely fantastic goal! jesus, imagine ged made a useful player out of him....

JerryHandbag · 26-09-2010 3:53pm

Big Mick is not pleased

Esse85 · 26-09-2010 3:58pm

A draw was a fair result, but I'm thrilled with 3 points.

Cuellar MOTM, he was excellent at the back.

mike65 · 26-09-2010 3:59pm

Meh.

Ronan Raver77 · 26-09-2010 3:59pm

Good result and we were lucky.Villa up to 5th

invinciblePRSTV · 26-09-2010 3:59pm

Yesss!!! 3 pts and a great header from Heskey.

I love it, UTV!

Raekwon · 26-09-2010 4:00pm

Great 3 points that even though it was very harsh on Wolves.

Patser · 26-09-2010 4:00pm

That'll do, since for a lot of that game we were muck.

Heskey a tower in defence at the end too. Is there anything this man can't do, player of the season so far!:p

eagle eye · 26-09-2010 4:00pm

Esse85 wrote: »

Petrov may as well be still in the dressing room.

This is awful.

Take off Heskey, bring on Ireland. Play Gabby up top and play Ireland behing him with Ash back on the wing.

LOL.

Esse85 · 26-09-2010 4:04pm

eagle eye wrote: »

LOL.

Report me to the mods again.

kilburn · 26-09-2010 4:11pm

fantastic 3 points here, especially in a local derby.
Whatever Houllier is feeding Heskey keep it up

JPA · 26-09-2010 4:11pm

Helix wrote: »

no chance, it absolutely HAD to be the gameplan. you dont do something like that time after time for 2-3 years without it being intentional

anyway, what a header from the lump! absolutely fantastic goal! jesus, imagine ged made a useful player out of him....

I disagree. Very little ball work was done with MON so they were not comfortable in possession.

Anyway, good win in what was heading for a dull 1-1.

invinciblePRSTV · 26-09-2010 4:15pm

Esse85 wrote: »

Report me to the mods again.

don't mind the bitter Blackburn fan, Villa take their best players and knock them out of every cup going, it's to be expected.

Anyway a Lucky 3pts today, Ged has loads of work to do starting with central midfield i feel. I genuinely fear going to Spurs next week, they'll rip Villa to shreds inthe middle.

Cuellar was solid today, deserves a run at CB next to Collins.

Sidwell is consistent at least, another booking after being on the pitch for 5 minutes.

Helix · 26-09-2010 4:21pm

JPA wrote: »

I disagree. Very little ball work was done with MON so they were not comfortable in possession.

Exactly. That would make it intentional wouldnt it? Unless you think mon wanted possession play but just forgot to have the players train for it?

leedsfan88 · 26-09-2010 4:21pm

How did Sidwell stay on the field, that was an awful tackle, didn't touch the ball and battered the wolves player, absolutely disgraceful decision.

JPA · 26-09-2010 4:26pm

Helix wrote: »

Exactly. That would make it intentional wouldnt it? Unless you think mon wanted possession play but just forgot to have the players train for it?

No, he left the players to their own devices.
Anyway, pointless argument.

Helix · 26-09-2010 4:32pm

JPA wrote: »

No, he left the players to their own devices.
Anyway, pointless argument.

you honestly reckon that mon gave the players absolutely no tactical instructions at all? just picked the team, told them what position to play in and left them to their own devices?

im astonished you could possibly think anything resembling that

Esse85 · 26-09-2010 5:38pm

JPA wrote: »

No, he left the players to their own devices.
Anyway, pointless argument.

Time Magazine · 26-09-2010 6:38pm

Who was the big black lad up front for us today? Who cares, what a header from him.

JPA · 26-09-2010 6:59pm

Helix wrote: »

you honestly reckon that mon gave the players absolutely no tactical instructions at all? just picked the team, told them what position to play in and left them to their own devices?

im astonished you could possibly think anything resembling that

MON was known for not working on ball play and technical aspects in training, he had faith in the ability of the players. It is my belief that the players hooved as a counsequence of his training or lack of. Other aspects of tactics would have been worked on like get the ball wide, get it in the box but the actual nitty gritty of how these things were achieved were not specified.

Helix · 26-09-2010 7:14pm

theres no chance at all that hoofing was the players decision

oftentimes mon was screaming from the touchline for the defenders to launch it. his teams played the same way at celtic and leicester, its his tactics. get the ball, hoof it up top as fast as possible to the big front man/wonders

now you know i didnt rate mon, but theres no manager on the planet idiotic enough to completely ignore ball play in training if he had it as a feature of his plans. mon did not trust the players to be able to do it themselves, he simply didnt want them to do it and had that ability coached out of them

the way youre going on youre making o'neill sound like he had the ability of an under 8's girls manager

JPA · 26-09-2010 7:27pm

A couple of weeks before the season started Dunne went to MON asking could they do more ballwork, MON responded by saying, "get your trainers back on lads, Ye're doing more laps" or something to that effect.

Helix · 26-09-2010 7:38pm

yeah, coz mon didnt believe ballwork was important since it didnt feature in his gameplan

youre saying that it DID feature, but he didnt think there was any point in training it

my point is that he didnt think it was worth training coz it didnt suit his tactics, which have always been hoof it

invinciblePRSTV · 26-09-2010 7:41pm

JPA wrote: »

A couple of weeks before the season started Dunne went to MON asking could they do more ballwork, MON responded by saying, "get your trainers back on lads, Ye're doing more laps" or something to that effect.

Where did you hear that JPA?

If there's any truth to it then it's a revealing insight into the Brian Clough wannabee's mindset. This **** was out of date by the time Cloughie relegated Forest back in 1993 ffs.

Helix · 26-09-2010 7:55pm

invinciblePRSTV wrote: »

Where did you hear that JPA?

If there's any truth to it then it's a revealing insight into the Brian Clough wannabee's mindset. This **** was out of date by the time Cloughie relegated Forest back in 1993 ffs.

iirc a good bit came out about how the players hated training under the mon regieme after he left

"bibs and cones rubbish" i seem to remember it being referred to, but that may have been paraphrased?

either way, the footballing was coached out of them from the looks of it

Wolves - Villa (2.05 KO)

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