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Waterford Election 2011
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Perhaps (since you are in the know) - You can give is an accurate breakdown of the 30,000 redundancies? It's almost 10% of the entire public sector, and yet you feel confident in it having no impact on frontline services. Fine Gael I assume have released a paper, categorically spelling out the areas that will be hit? Otherwise, you're not in a position to make such a claim I'm afraid..
Neither are you though.
Fine Gael have stated frontline services wont be effected, several times including on tonights This Week in Politics. Its being aimed at administration. So, one would assume, we have to go by their word and assume they have plans in more detail.
Like a lot of parties, they don't spell out every single detail in their policies. Fine Gael jobs policy is twenty two A4 pages long. Sinn Féin jobs policy is just two A4 pages long.0 -
Neither are you though.
Fine Gael have stated frontline services wont be effected, several times including on tonights This Week in Politics. Its being aimed at administration. So, one would assume, we have to go by their word and assume they have plans in more detail.
Like a lot of parties, they don't spell out every single detail in their policies. Fine Gael jobs policy is twenty two A4 pages long. Sinn Féin jobs policy is just two A4 pages long.
They can state what they want , removing 10 % of the PS workforce by a combination of voluntary redundancies & natural wastage is going to hit frontline services.
NUI Maynooth have said that the average school will lose 2 teachers and 1 in 6 nurses will go.
If they are prepared to release a 22 page document on jobs could we not expect at least a few bullet points on how they intend to implement the voluntary redundancy scheme ?0 -
Neither are you though.
I never claimed to be - But when I see a 10% reduction in public sector employment, I'm not naive enough to believe that it won't affect frontline services.Fine Gael have stated frontline services wont be effected, several times including on tonights This Week in Politics. Its being aimed at administration. So, one would assume, we have to go by their word and assume they have plans in more detail.
Well, you can go by their word as you're a FG member. I'm not obliged to do so. And when I see proposals for 30,000 cuts in the public sector, I feel it's perfectly valid to question where these cuts are going to be made and challenge the idea of them only being inflicted on admin-staff, when it's almost 10% of the entire public sector that will be laid off.0 -
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Driving home and I spotted a chap, non national by the looks. outside Ardkeen with a sign around him. Full high vis jacket and it was lashing.
It was for Declan Waters, the chap with "Non Party 1" on all his posters.
Shocking tbh! Hope he was being well paid!
What an amazing talent - the ability to spot a non national " by the looks "
Are all FG followers so perceptive ?0 -
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Driving home and I spotted a chap, non national by the looks. outside Ardkeen with a sign around him. Full high vis jacket and it was lashing.
It was for Declan Waters, the chap with "Non Party 1" on all his posters.
Shocking tbh! Hope he was being well paid!
He was on the cork road roundabout this morning :pac:Declan Waters.
1997 dail,national party 855 votes.
2002 dail,christian solidarity party 335 votes.
2007 dail,independent 270 votes.Thanks.
Enough said, as i said the penny should be dropping.
Dont know about Pennys but his vote is certainly dropping 0 -
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I was back out canvassing last night again for SF. Great response from the doors. Alot of people are really keen in having a chat, opposed to just taking a leaflet. Many were concerned with the cutbacks, and concerned with the levels of debt this bailout is going to bring us. Another issue that seemed to crop up was the potential introduction of water rates by Fine Gael.
I knocked on John Halligans door for the crack to canvass
He wasn't in though! Would have loved to pick his brain. We bumped into that lad from the Green Party - Jody who was canvassing on his own I think. Seemed like a really decent chap - He doesn't really have much of a chance in the election though - But very nice guy.
Great year for canvassing - So many people willing to have a chat.0 -
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Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Join Date:Posts: 21860
Was always a Fine Gael voter - family and all that but lately have kept an open mind on who I will vote for.
So far I've had three canvassers to my door
1st one was from John Deasy - basically his rep just handed me the flyer, asked would I remeber him turned on his heels and walked off - didnt want to outline any policies etc - sorry John you've lost my vote
2nd was Brendan Kenneally's rep - nice man gave a good 5minutes taliking to me- answered a lot of questions and left a good impression - unfortunately the man he's representing wouldnt go down too well with me
3rd was a rep for Sinn Fein and as much as it galls me to say it so far they have left the best impression on me - again gave a good 5 minutes - talked up his candidate and basically I felt that he had the right issues and concerns at heart - so might have to consider going against my beliefs and give them a 1st preference
So far havent received or heard anything from Paudie Coffey, or any of the Labour candidates and basically if noone calls thay wont get my vote
Just a reminder that its impossible for the candidate to knock on every door himself. Thats why you have members of his campaign team knocking on doors, presenting a leaflet on the candidate and party (if applicable).
Its up to you to ask the questions folks, and there shouldn't be any difficulty with the "rep" responding. If there is, call the candidate and speak directly with him. I'm sure the candidate would have no problem answering any question you may have that the rep wasn't able to.
With the amount of houses that need canvassing, and with most people just wanting the leaflet, canvassers don't always stop and ask "Have you any questions?". If you have a question, ask!Sully - If you get a chance, could you look into that water rates issue for me? I was listening to Noonan yesterday on the radio, and he didn't answer any questions on the quota or actual potential rates. Alot of people asked last night, and I had no information to give them other than FG would be potentially introducing them.
Perhaps the following.
1) Rates quota
2) Would the quota be progressive based on the amount in the household
3) Average cost incurred to a family per month.
Ill do my best, but you might be quicker emailing HQ?Has anyone seen a poster for Alan Darcy around? apparently he is running in the election because ive seen one up near where i live but there is no sign of him on a papers or not on the boards voting page.
He isn't on any list that I have with candidates, but maybe its wrong.
Not every candidate will be putting up posters - finance issue mostly I would imagine.
Let me know what area you are in if you haven't been canvassed by FG yet. Its possible they called, but nobody was home. However, I doubt all parties have managed to cover each estate as of yet.0 -
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Just a reminder that its impossible for the candidate to knock on every door himself. Thats why you have members of his campaign team knocking on doors, presenting a leaflet on the candidate and party (if applicable).
Its up to you to ask the questions folks, and there shouldn't be any difficulty with the "rep" responding. If there is, call the candidate and speak directly with him. I'm sure the candidate would have no problem answering any question you may have that the rep wasn't able to.
With the amount of houses that need canvassing, and with most people just wanting the leaflet, canvassers don't always stop and ask "Have you any questions?". If you have a question, ask!
Beg to differ with you there Sully but it is up to whoever they send to engage the people at the doors. After all they're canvassing for someone who is going to be representing me for the next few years and it'll be probably the only real time that I will get a chance to quiz them on their policies.
They are sending these people out on their behalf and if they are incapable of representing them properly then they shouldn't be doing it.
So your argument wears thin with me.
The other two canvassers that called were able to this.
When the Deasy lad called he just handed me the flyer and turned on his heels. I said to him that we were always a Fine Gael house in an effort to engage a conversation but he didn't respond - poor form on his part and as I said it has cost his candidate my vote.
As regards calling the candidate himself - no again - if I go for a job interview i get one chance to sell myself - it should be the same with those seeking election.
We'll see how quick they pick up their phones once elected.0
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