Cowen Lampooned on US TV

Nijmegen

How much time and effort did we Irish put into taking the Mick from US Presidents?

I don't recall receiving an official protest...

btard

I can't believe people are annoyed they didn't call him Taoiseach. The sooner the better my visa comes through. I can't wait to get out of this ****hole of a country and the gob****es in it.

Sheeps

btard wrote: »

I can't believe people are annoyed they didn't call him Taoiseach. The sooner the better my visa comes through. I can't wait to get out of this ****hole of a country and the gob****es in it.

i cant wait until ur gone as well

starbelgrade

blackdog2 wrote: »

Nor did we vote for this taoiseach...

And which Taoiseach have we ever voted for?

The Aussie

Sheeps wrote: »

dont knock the adrian kennedy phone show. its like jeremey kyle. he does the community a good service by presenting scumbags in an easily accessible format to be laughed at.

What!!! how have i not heard of this before??? when, where who and how might i tap into this comedy gold.

bonerm

Biffo got off easy. Nice to see the yanks can the the piss out of him , even if we're not allowed to.

No credit to Leno either btw. Total spa. Hey have you seen this clip? Have you heard this one?

Happyman42

Dudess wrote: »

People were freaking out over this on the Joe Duffy show? FFS, while some might consider Cowen an embarrassment, I personally find that sort of hypersensitivity even more embarrassing...

+1

Sonnenblumen

fontanalis wrote: »

In fairness you can't expect a country to be fluent in a langauge that isn't spoken by most if the people in the country where it's from.

What Jay cannot say TEA SHOCK? :eek:

Zigmund

Hardly anyone watches Leno anymore.
It's like if the US went into an uproar because something got said about Obama, but on TG4.

Markom5a

Again!!! Think he would have learned his lesson from the morning Ireland interview and stayed in the night before!!!

arid

Sam Vimes wrote: »

And when talking about Vladimir Putin they should refer to him by his correct title "Премьер-министр"

Yeah, which is pronounced "premier minister" :pac:

Anyway it's not that bit that's the problem, not a fan of Cowen but calling him a "drunken moron" is maybe a bit much. Actualy on second thoughts... :P

fonecrusher1

Doesn't bother me in the slightest but Americans taking the piss out of another nation's leader???.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnimqqWcqQU

< just one of many.

They had this donkey^ as their president for 8 years.

TerryTibbs!

Boobs

senordingdong

Confab wrote: »

Taoiseach means Prime Minister. I can imagine you saying 'That's not a bed, it's a leaba!' :rolleyes:

No it doesn't.

It translates as 'Chief' or 'leader'.

galwayrush

senordingdong wrote: »

No it doesn't.

It translates as 'Chief' or 'leader'.

Right now, that definition sounds like a major contradiction.:rolleyes:

CorkMan

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Poor Auld Cowan, all he wanted was a pint.

Sure God love him.

Noffles

haha.. fat, ugly ****ing country wrecking piss head...

Gummy Panda

Did he say cowen was a hippo walrus hybrid?

senordingdong

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Did he say cowen was a hippo walrus hybrid?

Not sure.
But it seems to be true regardless.

Shenshen

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Doesn't bother me in the slightest but Americans taking the piss out of another nation's leader???.....

They had this donkey^ as their president for 8 years.

Well, yes, and now, for a short while, they've got somebody they don't (yet) need to apologise for.

I can't blame them for trying to make the most of this short time span and make fun of other countries' leaders for a change...

Amhran Nua

Most of us do enjoy a drink from time to time, which we have in common with most Americans, Germans, French, etc. But Ireland has somehow managed to pick up a reputation as being a country full of raving alcoholics, and its doing us no favours.

You'd think the leader of this country could show a bit more restraint at a time when we're going hat in hand to Europe to borrow billions for the mistakes made by the government, and not get photographed staggering around the place half cut.

Brian Cowen is a man badly out of his depth when we need strong leadership. History will not judge him kindly, and I find it hard to have any sympathy for the man. Yes he's only human, but we're entitled to better.

bernardo mac

Don't have too much time for FF but have very little respect for pop US tv.:eek:

Einstein

Prime minister / Chieftain / Taoiseach.

Who cares. he is the prime minister of the country.

However - if it was changed to Chieftain instead of Taoiseach....

Now that'd be awesome...:P

"And now...some words from Irelands Chieftain..."

:P

MickShamrock

Saw this last night. Quite funny. Nice pic of Cowen there too!

up for anything

Cowen lampooned in the UK.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3vEOSkk5AM&feature=player_embedded

AAAAAAAHHH

abitofacomedian wrote: »

Leno is a gob****e anyway, he's entire act seems to have denigrated into pointing out how superior he is to other people. I cant stand the smug git, but he has achieved the impossible, he made me stand up for Brian Cowen. How many other world leaders enjoy a drink, Winston Churchill was an alcoholic for pete's sake. Yet because Cowen wasn't blessed with looks he becomes an object of ridicule. If he was being mocked for his policies, his incompetence or his record then I would be all for it, satire is a wonderful thing. But no, Mr. Holywood Jay Leno wants us all to look at this freak of nature, with a photograph catching him at a bad time, who enjoys a pint like everyone else. Muppet.

Conan never would have lowered himself to this.

Ah yes, Cowen wasn't blessed with looks. As opposed to that glistening Adonis, Churchill.

jackiebaron

fontanalis wrote: »

In fairness you can't expect a country to be fluent in a langauge that isn't spoken by most if the people in the country where it's from.

Well we call Ahmedinejad the Prime Minister of Iran. I doubt any of us even know what his title would be in the Farsi language.

sensibleken

Confab wrote: »

Taoiseach means Prime Minister. I can imagine you saying 'That's not a bed, it's a leaba!' :rolleyes:

Taoiseach means chief actually. Or cúnt sometimes

Ash.J.Williams

brianthebard wrote: »

Cowen's drinking is just adding to our problems however, and reinforcing negative stereotypes and perceptions of the country as a whole.

Was just watching Gazza on saturday night show last night, whenever gazza mentioned Drink and dublin in the same sentence, the crowd gave an automatic "whooop" to say "yeah gazza we're a nation of pissheads too"
Our country has that image because it's true....People visit here to go on the piss...just like they go to Amsterdam to smoke...All cowen has done is acted like an normal irish person and to thwe rest of the world that can be an ugly thing...

Wompa1

Only thing embarrassing is the fact it is so unfunny. Leno has and always will be crap. Bring back Conan O'Brien who calls us alcoholic angry pirates.

Wompa1

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Doesn't bother me in the slightest but Americans taking the piss out of another nation's leader???.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnimqqWcqQU

< just one of many.

They had this donkey^ as their president for 8 years.

They took the piss out of him constantly. They took the piss out of Bush senior, Reagan and Clinton. Haven't heard too many zingers going the way of Obama though!

fonecrusher1

Wompa1 wrote: »

Haven't heard too many zingers going the way of Obama though!

Well thats because theres not much to take the piss about.

Unfortunately for US comedians, since Bush went out of office they don't have the same amount of presidential goof-ups to benefit from. Obama seems to be fairly intelligent, articulate & sensible. The complete opposite of his predecessor.
Not great for the likes of Jay Leno. They thrive on peoples inadequacies & faults so theres not much to extract from Obama so far.

Hence the well earned dig at our 'leader'.

Wompa1

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Well thats because theres not much to take the piss about.

Unfortunately for US comedians, since Bush went out of office they don't have the same amount of presidential goof-ups to benefit from. Obama seems to be fairly intelligent, articulate & sensible. The complete opposite of his predecessor.
Not great for the likes of Jay Leno. They thrive on peoples inadequacies & faults so theres not much to extract from Obama so far.

Hence the well earned dig at our 'leader'.

Obamas made quite a pretty dumb remarks. I would post any links because I would get hammered for it I think. His attempt at bowling was pretty funny, when the teleprompter broke he lost his elegance completely. Obama just seems to be wrapped in cotton wool.

fonecrusher1

Wompa1 wrote: »

Obamas made quite a pretty dumb remarks. I would post any links because I would get hammered for it I think. His attempt at bowling was pretty funny, when the teleprompter broke he lost his elegance completely. Obama just seems to be wrapped in cotton wool.

What ever way you cut it, he hasn't made anywhere near as many fcuk-ups as Bush did in his first 2 years as president.

Theres no comparison really.

orourkeda

scoops for everyone

orourkeda

Wompa1 wrote: »

They took the piss out of him constantly. They took the piss out of Bush senior, Reagan and Clinton. Haven't heard too many zingers going the way of Obama though!

They're on the way. I'm sure the realisation that he isn't god has set in.

GizAGoOfYerGee

Confab wrote: »

Taoiseach means Prime Minister.

It means "Chieftain".

DominoDub

Looks like he has been replaced by Rab C. Nesbitt

http://www.irishtimes.com/homepage/images/1224279863991.jpg?ts=1285684961

Ash.J.Williams

I would say all the pics and satire is taking it's toll on Brians Cowen family especially his kids.

Procasinator

Augmerson wrote: »

I thought it meant Chieftain?

johnnyrotten wrote: »

No, its means Chieftain

kraggy wrote: »

No it doesn't. It means chieftain.

Príomh Aire is the Gaeilge for Prime Minister.

senordingdong wrote: »

No it doesn't.

It translates as 'Chief' or 'leader'.

GizAGoOfYerGee wrote: »

It means "Chieftain".

Really, you don't say? It'd be great if you could have designated Augmerson as the chieftain, instead of the same point being reiterated independently over and over again.

The argument is also stupid. Internationally, prime minster would be the most understood and appropriate word.

Search for Taoiseach in Google. The first response you get back has this as the description:

The Taoiseach is the Irish prime minister. Includes publications of the Department, press releases and speeches.

Which is obtained from DMOZ.

If you are not satisfied with this, I will refer to section 5.1 of the constitution of Ireland, which states (emphasis mine):

The head of the Government, or Prime Minister, shall be called, and is in this Constitution referred to as, the Taoiseach.

So, there really isn't an excuse for people to be getting their knickers in twist that the Taoiseach is referred to as a Prime Minister. It's synonymous.

onlyrocknroll

Procasinator wrote: »

Really, you don't say? It'd be great if you could have designated Augmerson as the chieftain, instead of the same point be reiterated independently.

The argument is also stupid. Internationally, prime minster would be the most understood and appropriate word.

Search for Taoiseach in Google. The first response you get back has this as the description:



Which is obtained from DMOZ.

If you are not satisfied with this, I will refer to section 5.1 of the constitution of Ireland, which states (emphasis mine):



So, there really isn't an excuse for people to be getting their knickers in twist that the Taoiseach is referred to as a Prime Minister. It's synonymous.

It only means chieftain as Gaeilge. It mean 'the Irish prime minister' in modern English, (according the Oxford English Dictionary). It's really not that complicated.

To everyone who thinks it means chieftain: do you also think that the Republic of Ireland is a pre-modern tribe or clan, rather than a modern parliamentary democracy?

Snakeblood

onlyrocknroll wrote: »

To everyone who thinks it means chieftain: do you also think that the Republic of Ireland is a pre-modern tribe or clan, rather than a modern parliamentary democracy?

I normally answer democracy, but look at all the close relatives in the Dail looking out for their tribesmen.

MrMatisse

Snakeblood wrote: »

I normally answer democracy, but look at all the close relatives in the Dail looking out for their tribesmen.

moonpurple

cowen is a td since age 24, it is up to him for jay leno to not have that slob photo

MrMatisse

moonpurple wrote: »

cowen is a td since age 24, it is up to him for jay leno to not have that slob photo

It really is a nightmare photo.

previous user

Was he actually drunk in that photo, does he not have any PR savvy, who took the pic?

Fluorescence

To everyone arguing that Taoiseach means chieftain, it doesn't. It translates into Irish as chieftain/leader, it means the Prime Minister of Ireland in modern english usage.

I don't know why people are getting so upset about it. It was a 30 second triviality on U.S. tv. World leaders get mocked, deal with it.

super_furry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzN0Js0tKZ4

Wahey! We're famous in England too.

AudreyHepburn

I can't believe people are still going on about this.

The man had a few pints with work collegues for god's sake, it's not the end of the world.

Seriously I really think we need to let this go now.

If anything is given people a bad impression of us it's all the hysterical whining about this non-event imo. It's no wonder these people take the piss out of us.