FC Utrecht v Liverpool FC 18.00 hrs KO

Lucas, you ****ing ****

tok9

Jesus I usually defend Lucas but that was appalling.. terrible ball and gave away a free

ShamoBuc

mada999 wrote: »

what game are you watchin?!?!

pissed off with giving negative comments;)

missingtime

****s sake. that was the height of retardation.

everdead.ie

Utreacts left back looks a weak point

PiE

baldbear wrote: »

It's obvious Torres still isn't fully fit. He's looking that bit slow.

It's obvious he just doesn't give a toss anymore.

Absolute rubbish so far, as expected. Has Meireles played right side before? Ever? Pitch looks terrible, you'd see better in the Phoeno.

5ForKeeps

You get what you wish for in life...a lot of our supporters have got theres. We are so average compared to even last season its unbelievable.

PiE

PiE wrote: »

It's obvious he just doesn't give a toss anymore.

BS.

greendom

Defence is all over the place

everdead.ie

Lucas having a mare here

5ForKeeps

PiE wrote: »

It's obvious he just doesn't give a toss anymore.

Absolute rubbish so far, as expected. Has Meireles played right side before? Ever? Pitch looks terrible, you'd see better in the Phoeno.

Can you actually blame him ffs. Long ball **** is not playing to his strengths, we have gone back 7-8 years to Houllier style football end of story.

Rubbish football philosophy that Hodgson is putting on these set of players. Only for Pepe Reina we would be worse off this season than we already are.

5ForKeeps

everdead.ie wrote: »

Lucas having a mare here

Having a mare because he is having to do the work of two players because Poulsen is ****.

Sir Gallagher

5ForKeeps wrote: »

You get what you wish for in life...a lot of our supporters have got theres. We are so average compared to even last season its unbelievable.

And what was that?

joe123

Lucas and poulsen living up to the title of ****iest midfield combo ever. They really are two appalling players. What the hell has Roy done putting meireles out wide? Take off one of the donkeys of pucas and stick on babel or someone slightly not as ****.

We are so **** it makes me angry.

5ForKeeps

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

And what was that?

Houllier style football, we have gone back 7-8 years with the football Hodgson is playing ffs. Worse than last season when at least we looked like we gave a **** in games.

Some of the players espeically Torres do not believe in Hodgson I believe.

joe123

5ForKeeps wrote: »

Having a mare because he is having to do the work of two players because Poulsen is ****.

They are both ****.

mike65

Terrible terrible stuff, I don't care if Torres is isn't getting the service he wants, thats no excuse for not making runs, closing down. Though he's got a bit better as the halfs gone on. As for Lucas :eek: AGH :eek: He and Poulson are poison together. Ironic that Lucas gets the card first.

D'Agger

Meireles to the middle, Ecclestone on the right to rip that LB apart and either Lucas or Poulson off because they're pathetic

5ForKeeps

joe123 wrote: »

They are both ****.

Yes which Roy hasn't learned from the City game when got mullered with the two of them playing. Play one or the other and I know who I prefer and it ain't Poulsen.

5ForKeeps

He needs to change the side, I would hope he does the following;

Reina
Kelly, Skrtel, Agger/Carra, Agger/Carra
Johnson, Merieles, Lucas, Cole
Kuyt, Torres

missingtime

We are so so so obvious in everything we do. We cant even do simple things. Its so depressing.

redzerdrog

how are liverpool lining up formation wise?

mike65

4-4-2

Though its really 4-2-2-2

Sir Gallagher

5ForKeeps wrote: »

Houllier style football, we have gone back 7-8 years with the football Hodgson is playing ffs. Worse than last season when at least we looked like we gave a **** in games.

Some of the players espeically Torres do not believe in Hodgson I believe.

Yeah people who lost faith in Rafa wanted this, nice try.

everdead.ie

5ForKeeps wrote: »

He needs to change the side, I would hope he does the following;

Reina
Kelly, Skrtel, Agger/Carra, Agger/Carra
Johnson, Merieles, Lucas, Cole
Kuyt, Torres

Agger is injured no?

redzerdrog

mike65 wrote: »

4-4-2

Though its really 4-2-2-2

meireles playing right mid??

D'Agger

everdead.ie wrote: »

Agger is injured no?

Whether he is or not he didn't travel afaik

mike65

The whole side is so narrow its silly. Ming is no more a winger than Reina (who he looks like with that bald bonce)

D'Agger

redzerdrog wrote: »

meireles playing right mid??

I prefer the term "Completely out of position" :mad:

5ForKeeps

missingtime wrote: »

We are so so so obvious in everything we do. We cant even do simple things. Its so depressing.

Yes just like we were at during the last two seasons under Houllier. Rubbish football by a manager who is so far out of his depth as manager of LFC is unreal. Being far from impressed with his attitude towards the style of play he is imprinting on the team and that to go with his attitude off it makes it even worse.

He needs to get the finger out because clearly Plan A ain't working and he has no Plan B apart from bringing on Ngog to change the game.

D'Agger

mike65 wrote: »

The whole side is so narrow its silly. Ming is no more a winger than Reina (who he looks like with that bald bonce)

I see you're going ahead with the name Mike

5ForKeeps

PaulieC wrote: »

Whether he is or not he didn't travel afaik

**** it switch Carra out to LB and bring on Soto into CB

SlickRic

appalling.

i feel genuinely sorry for Cole and Torres, and to a slightly lesser extent Kuyt.

Cole has been the best player by a mile, but he has no movement, no running, no urgency around him. whether the team is rigidly staying to Roy's system, i don't know, but it's horrible stuff.

Torres looks like he's never met his teammates before.

Poulsen has been fine, Lucas has been abysmal; them as a combination has been, as expected, devoid of any urgency or tempo setting capabilities.

Mereiles out wide has got to be some sort of perverse joke Roy was put up to during the week.

Kelly looks lost at left back.

Carra's legs still look gone.

we've still no pace, or genuine width, and Johnson most of the time looks like he doesn't know if he's allowed overlap.

it's all just very tedious.

Jazzy

awful stuff

murpho999

SlickRic wrote: »

appalling.

i feel genuinely sorry for Cole and Torres, and to a slightly lesser extent Kuyt.

Cole has been the best player by a mile, but he has no movement, no running, no urgency around him. whether the team is rigidly staying to Roy's system, i don't know, but it's horrible stuff.

Torres looks like he's never met his teammates before.

Poulsen has been fine, Lucas has been abysmal; them as a combination has been, as expected, devoid of any urgency or tempo setting capabilities.

Mereiles out wide has got to be some sort of perverse joke Roy was put up to during the week.

Kelly looks lost at left back.

Carra's legs still look gone.

we've still no pace, or genuine width, and Johnson most of the time looks like he doesn't know if he's allowed overlap.

it's all just very tedious.

Just home so missed first half, but from what I read here it sounds bad.

Who do we blame for this....Rafa because of last season, the players themselves, owners, Roy....or all of them together.

Not trying to stir a row here, but I just don't know what can be done without investment to change things around. All very depressing at the moment.

mike65

SlickRic wrote: »

it's all just very tedious.

We can only hope that 2nd half syndrome kicks in.

5ForKeeps

murpho999 wrote: »

Just home so missed first half, but from what I read here it sounds bad.

Who do we blame for this....Rafa because of last season, the players themselves, owners, Roy....or all of them together.

Not trying to stir a row here, but I just don't know what can be done without investment to change things around. All very depressing at the moment.

He is the manager now, at least the players should have some self belief believed to be a great man manager you would expect Roy to have done this at least so far. But at the moment the players don't, his tactics leave a lot to be desired so the buck stops with him regarding performances as much as Rafa. He has a better squad of players at his disposal than Fulham. No excuses.

Utrecht are no world beaters, we have the players there to beat them comfortably but the tactics being employed not only tonight but since the season started have being somewhat negative.

Jazzy

lol babb - "bring on ngog or babylon" i bet hes been waiting weeks to say that

8-10

SlickRic wrote: »

i feel genuinely sorry for Cole

I feel genuinely sorry for the people Cole is attempting to pass to.

Leiva

Someone please remind me why I like football .

jesus_thats_gre

So what is the story with Insua? Surely he would be a better option at least back considering it is his natural position?!

D'Agger

If the 3e stream doesn't come back up soon I'm gona fúckin flip :mad:

Chardee MacDennis

murpho999 wrote: »

Just home so missed first half, but from what I read here it sounds bad.

Who do we blame for this....Rafa because of last season, the players themselves, owners, Roy....or all of them together..

Let's be fair, they've all a hand in it, some more than others. But the responsibility is on roys shoulders to do something about it and so far it looks like he has his thumb up his a$$

everdead.ie

SlickRic wrote: »

appalling.

i feel genuinely sorry for Cole and Torres, and to a slightly lesser extent Kuyt.

Cole has been the best player by a mile, but he has no movement, no running, no urgency around him. whether the team is rigidly staying to Roy's system, i don't know, but it's horrible stuff.

Torres looks like he's never met his teammates before.

Poulsen has been fine, Lucas has been abysmal; them as a combination has been, as expected, devoid of any urgency or tempo setting capabilities.

Mereiles out wide has got to be some sort of perverse joke Roy was put up to during the week.

Kelly looks lost at left back.

Carra's legs still look gone.

we've still no pace, or genuine width, and Johnson most of the time looks like he doesn't know if he's allowed overlap.

it's all just very tedious.

Excellent post would thank twice if possible

happyoutscan

FFS Johnson wake up.

Chardee MacDennis

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

So what is the story with Insua? Surely he would be a better option at least back considering it is his natural position?!

We're about as likely to call aquilani back than we are to call insua back tbh!!

5ForKeeps

Bar Gerrard & Konchesky who regularly start that is our strongest 11 out there tonight. Agger is missing granted but honestly surely there is enough quality out there to pull out a performance which hasn't being the case so far this season bar a 45 mins against Arsenal, 15 against Utd and the Steaua game.

Fowler87

Hows Ricky Van Whatshisface playing?? Have a couple of quid on him scoring AT

Chardee MacDennis

5ForKeeps wrote: »

Bar Gerrard & Konchesky who regularly start that is our strongest 11 out there tonight. Agger is missing granted but honestly surely there is enough quality out there to pull out a performance which hasn't being the case so far this season bar a 45 mins against Arsenal, 15 against Utd and the Steaua game.

The eleven that started were arguably good enough to win in the carling cup as well. Where are roys motivational skills gone?

murpho999

Stupid 3e commentators. Torres misses a difficult chance and now it's a sign of how bad he is playing and he is not the same as last year.

Suppose if he scores later then they'll say he's back in the groove.