Budget 2011 - Roads thread

Chris_5339762

Yeah, Dunkettle should be started ASAP. It'll be reasonably cheap (compared to stretches of motorway) and will benefit a whole ton of people. Also it'll be the next Newlands (if not worse) once the SRR junctions are done.

Amtmann

This press release was issued today: http://www.transport.ie/pressRelease.aspx?Id=280

The budget allocations per county council are also included. Two additional N road schemes will start - the N4 Downs grade separation and the N87 Ballyconnell Relief Road.

This kind of information always appears towards the end of January, regardless of the election. I believe these builds will get underway this year.

Chris_5339762

New Minister for Transport, new schemes. God knows if any of these will start. The PPPs seem to have stalled, no money has come forth regarding the non-PPPs, I dont hold much hope for anything

Amtmann

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

New Minister for Transport, new schemes. God knows if any of these will start. The PPPs seem to have stalled, no money has come forth regarding the non-PPPs, I dont hold much hope for anything

You owe me a pint at the 2011 Infrastructure forum beers if I'm right, and vice versa if I'm wrong

Pete_Cavan

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

New Minister for Transport, new schemes. God knows if any of these will start. The PPPs seem to have stalled, no money has come forth regarding the non-PPPs, I dont hold much hope for anything

These are not new schemes. The N87 Ballyconnell Relief Road was tendered before Christmas and Priority construction are the lowest bidder. The N4 The Downs Grade Separation had an invitation to tender for archaeological services with closing date the begining of January so both progressed to this stage under Dempsey.

marmurr1916

WORK IS to begin this year on four major new road schemes including interchanges on the Cork Southern Ring Road and bypasses of Belturbet, Co Cavan, Longford town and Tralee, Co Kerry.

In addition it is hoped to sign contracts for two large-scale public-private partnerships that are scheduled to begin before the year’s end. These are the M17/M18 Gort to Tuam motorway and the N11 Arklow to Rathnew and Newlands Cross upgrades.

Confirmation of the inclusion of the schemes in 2011 allocation was announced yesterday by Minister for Transport Pat Carey.

Some €877 million is to be spent on the National Roads Programme, which Fine Gael transport spokesman Simon Coveney described as a cut of 20 per cent on last year’s budget.

Mr Coveney said the allocation would “condemn motorists to another year of dangerous roads strewn with dangerous potholes”.

The Cork ring-road junction improvements will involve construction of Bandon Road and Sarsfield Road flyovers. Both junctions have been bottlenecks on the ring road and the new interchanges are considered an important infrastructural asset for the region.

The bypass of Longford will divert Mayo-bound traffic away from the centre of the county town, passing it to the southwest. Longford is already bypassed to the northeast by the N4.

The Belturbet bypass is part of the N3 Butlersbridge to Belturbet road-improvement scheme that involves the construction of some seven kilometres of standard single carriageway and a major river crossing of the river Erne.

The bypass of Tralee on the N22 will link the N69 Listowel road with the N70 Killorglin road, via the N21 Limerick road.

The M17/18 Gort to Tuam road is part of the Atlantic corridor and and consists of 57km of motorway. The scheme commences at the northern extremity of the N18 Gort to Crusheen scheme and extends in a northerly direction with junctions at Kiltiernan connecting to the N67, at Rathmorrissy connecting to the new M6 Dublin Galway route, at Annagh Hill connecting to N63, and at Tuam connecting to the existing N17.

The allocation does not mention the commitment of the Government to spend some €480 million on roads in the North. About €30 million in planning costs are understood to have already been made for roads linking Aughnacloy to Derry and from the Port of Larne towards Belfast. The next payment, of about €13 million, is due this year.

Construction is to begin in August 2012 and end in July 2015.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/0125/1224288249098.html

'Hoped to sign contracts for', 'to begin before the year's end'. I hope this doesn't mean that the M18/17 and N11/Newland's X schemes will end up being deferred until 2012.

road_high

They say the N5 Longford bypass is to go southwest of the town. Thought it was planned to go the north of the town no?

munchkin_utd

mfitzy wrote: »

They say the N5 Longford bypass is to go southwest of the town. Thought it was planned to go the north of the town no?

yup,
heres the map:
http://www.longfordcoco.ie/uploadedFiles/LongfordCoCo/Our_Departments/Roads/Documents/N5_Longford_Bypass/N5Drawing.pdf

if you google "Longford by pass" its the first link.
Its a wonder our national papers cant use such a simple search tool!!
And its no wonder that print media is suffering declining sales when what they often print is factually incorrect.

Neworder79

Guess N5 Ballaghaderreen bypass is off the agenda so, Cowen was promising this would begin in 2011 a few months back.

Tech3

A couple of 1-2km bypasses I wont be much impressed with and junction upgrades. The real major schemes such as the M11/Newlands X and M17/M18 PPP's are more important projects in my opinion. Also the Tralee bypass should be binned and money put away in the coffers for a much larger schemes that will benefit a lot more of the population of the country such as:

N21 Adare-Abbeyfeale
N24 Pallasgreen-Cahir
N17 Tuam-Claremorris

Also getting the M20 to tender is vitally important, I believe M4 to Longford is a luxury in the current climate and should also be sidelined. Getting rid of the remaining sections of narrow S2 on our national primary roads is what the NRA should be striving to do. I believe the new government should cancel the Tralee bypass when possible.

Sponge Bob

Of the €4.3m announced for Galway City Council around €4m is for CYCLE lanes and more Pedestrian lights between the Headford and Tuam roads along Bóthar na dTreabh with attendant traffic jams on this busy stretch. The other €300k is for landscaping a few more roundabouts including Ballybrit.

They got as much for their entire maintenance requirements as they will get for dollying up roundabouts, around €300k.

spadesaspade

Neworder79 wrote: »

Guess N5 Ballaghaderreen bypass is off the agenda so, Cowen was promising this would begin in 2011 a few months back.

Cowen promised alot of things in his time

dubhthach

Sponge Bob wrote: »

Of the €4.3m announced for Galway City Council around €4m is for CYCLE lanes and more Pedestrian lights between the Headford and Tuam roads along Bóthar na dTreabh with attendant traffic jams on this busy stretch. The other €300k is for landscaping a few more roundabouts including Ballybrit.

They got as much for their entire maintenance requirements as they will get for dollying up roundabouts, around €300k.

I don't think Galway corporation know what a "pedestrian bridge" is. As there are no entrances onto Bóthar na dTreabh between Headford road/Tuam road (apart from 1 housing estate beside tuam rd roundabout) why do they need to put pedestrian crossings here?

Irish and Proud

dubhthach wrote: »

I don't think Galway corporation know what a "pedestrian bridge" is. As there are no entrances onto Bóthar na dTreabh between Headford road/Tuam road (apart from 1 housing estate beside tuam rd roundabout) why do they need to put pedestrian crossings here?

Landscaping??? :mad:

Is the DoT for real - each local authority should be granted taxpayers' money on the grounds of necessary maintenance and improvements to the road network - this includes footpaths and lighting. Traffic lights, right filter lanes and necessary short sections of link roads would also be on my shopping list if I was the Transport Minister.

Time to cut the bull - no more fancy paving projects or elaborate traffic calming schemes - just do the maintenance - there are many potholes in dire need of attention as well as crumbling footpaths - oh, and there's the lighting aspect (or lack of)! :mad:

Regards!

Sponge Bob

I honestly don't know what they propose to do, by the way I was initially mistaken in that Bóthar na dTreabh is apparently the entire stretch from Briarhill Roundabout to Sandyvale Roundabout ( I said it was the Sandyvale - Tuam road section only) .

There are a few spots along there where crossings are needed but christ knows how they intend to provide for Cycle Lanes , esp east of the Tuam Road.

Sponge Bob

Carey never mentioned this one at all, maybe because it is in design not construction for 2011

http://www.etenders.gov.ie/search/show/search_view.aspx?ID=JAN195759

The Contract comprises the design, execution and completion of the N52 Carrick Bridge to Clonfad Road Improvement Scheme, including without limitation the provision of:
- Approximately 5.6 kilometres of standard single carriageway national secondary road;
- Approximately 2.0 kilometres of various single carriageway local road realignments;

Scheduled date for start of award procedures and duration of the contract

Scheduled date for start of award procedures: 30-04-2011
scheduled date for start of works: 30-09-2011completion of works: 30-01-2013

Sponge Bob

Never mentioned this scheme either

http://www.etenders.gov.ie/search/show/search_view.aspx?ID=JAN194635

The N59 Westport to Mulranny - N59 Kilbride (2.8km) Section Road Project is an early construction phase of the N59 Westport to Mulranny Road Project and extends from the southern speed limit signs of Newport Town in Carrowbaun Townland to Shandrum Townland.
This is mainly an online road improvement with approximately 850 metres of offline realignment. It will comprise a ‘Type 3 Single Carriageway’ road to NRA DMRB Interim Advice Note 01/09 (IAN 01/09) and will be approximately 2.8km in length.

Neworder79

Think I heard the N59 is being funded from some separate Tourism route scheme, cycleway being built along side some parts to join the Westport-Achil greenway.

spacetweek

Tremelo wrote: »

I'm going to predict a start on the Dunkettle Interchange in Q4 2012, assuming the EIS is approved, as expected, by Q2 2012.

Good point, and rightly so.
It's also looking like Ballaghdereen and Slane will happen in 2012 too.

munchkin_utd wrote: »

if you google "Longford by pass" its the first link.
Its a wonder our national papers cant use such a simple search tool!!
And its no wonder that print media is suffering declining sales when what they often print is factually incorrect.

Technically that's west of the town ~0)

However they also said N11, it's motorway.

Sponge Bob wrote: »

Of the €4.3m announced for Galway City Council around €4m is for CYCLE lanes and more Pedestrian lights between the Headford and Tuam roads along Bóthar na dTreabh with attendant traffic jams on this busy stretch.

Not a cyclist I see. What's wrong with CYCLE lanes and pedestrian crossings? They need investment too.

dubhthach

spacetweek wrote: »

Good point, and rightly so.
It's also looking like Ballaghdereen and Slane will happen in 2012 too.

Technically that's west of the town ~0)

However they also said N11, it's motorway.

Not a cyclist I see. What's wrong with CYCLE lanes and pedestrian crossings? They need investment too.

The thing is that there are already "cycle lanes" alongside Bóthar na dTreabh see here. As for pedestrian crossing there is absolutely no need to put one on this stretch of road as it goes through green fields and there are no entrances on the road. If they must insist it should at least be a pedestrian bridge