New Stadium

therecklessone

http://www.fsf.org.uk/media/uploaded/File/tfs25-olympic-stadium.pdf

Hatch99

therecklessone wrote: »

http://www.fsf.org.uk/media/uploaded/File/tfs25-olympic-stadium.pdf

The last sentence of that sums it up for me.

RichMc70

Hatch99 wrote: »

The last sentence of that sums it up for me.

Th e sheer number of professional clubs sustained in Britain
is unique. Nowhere else in the world has such strength in
depth and we should celebrate that rather than allow cliques
of executives to trample all over it. Football fans did not ask
for a stadium in Stratford and football fans should not be
expected to sacrifice their own history for the future of the

unwanted Olympic Stadium.

here here

RichMc70

That cnut Levy is like a dog with a bone. It's been rumourmed that if Spurs don't win the bid, he already has a legal team set up to sue the Olympic Park Legacy Committee.

I remember back in the Irving Scholar days when thousands were protesting to get him out. On one occasion I had to hurdle the wall into St. Francis Church opposite the stadium to avoid getting stampeded by a mounted police horse at one protest. Different days then, more the working class, now theres too many self-believing middle class who wouldnt cross the road to help an old lady, let alone make any noise about something they proclaim they care about.

Levy has said there is no other option than Stratford. What kind of fcuking business man is he that says there is no other option. there's always another option but he's just bullsh1tting. If he doesnt have another option then this man should not be chairman of our Club.

He says the NDP is not viable but yet with the amount of land they now own outright immediately surrounding the existing stadium, they could increase the capacity by 10,000 in less than one season at the WHL site. The same could be achieved the following season. Obviously for probably two seasons we would see one part of the Ground empty due to construction but of course this still wouldnt provide us with all the glamour of being on the Olympic Park with all the wonders that Stratford has to offer and Olympic Museums, Theme Parks and Concert Venue possibilties.

For anyone that didnt know, Spurs are owned in the majority by ENIC, which is predominatly owned by Joe Lewis. Joe Lewis is a Brit that has been living in the Bahamas since the 1970's. His main business inteterests are based in the US. He took a massive hit on his shares when JP Morgan took over Bear Stearns, however he is still quoted as being the 17th richest british person by Forbes Magazine.

What does that mean for Spurs. Well, unlike Abramovich, Lewis does not attend Spurs games. Unlike Abramovich, Lewis does not fund £50m player purchaches, unlike Abramovich, Lewis has chosen to live tax exile lifestyle for over 30 years and lives life and business in the US way.

I believe we are being set up for a sale to some US buyers who treat sport nothing more than commercialism as per American Football, Baseball and Basketball. Sure it's commercial enough as it is but wait till thesee boyos get hold of it.

KingdomYid

RichMc70 wrote: »

Th e sheer number of professional clubs sustained in Britain
is unique. Nowhere else in the world has such strength in
depth and we should celebrate that rather than allow cliques
of executives to trample all over it. Football fans did not ask
for a stadium in Stratford and football fans should not be
expected to sacrifice their own history for the future of the

unwanted Olympic Stadium.

here here

Here here, fcuk off Levy :mad:

RichMc70

Our stadium bid partner, AEG, were the one's that blocked Spurs from taking Beckham. http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6742492,00.html

You really have to question Levy's motives especially with partners like this.

Hatch99

The war of words between West Ham and Spurs over the Olympic Stadium has reached new heights after Hammers co-owner David Sullivan hit back at Daniel Levy's arguments for handing the site to the North London club, in an interview with ESPNsoccernet.


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David Sullivan: Has an Olympic dream
• Brewin: Olympian ideals, but money talks

Both Premier League chairmen have been penning their own articles in the London Evening Standard, Levy on Tuesday and Sullivan on Wednesday. But Sullivan has taken the feud to a new level with stinging comments in the week of the judgment on which of the clubs should be the tenants after the Olympics.

Sullivan is now questioning whether it should be Levy putting the case forward or the man behind the throne at White Hart Lane, Joe Lewis, the billionaire currency trader who resides in the Bahamas, the 261st richest person on the Forbes Rich List.

Sullivan told ESPNsoccernet: "I'm not some tax exile living in the Bahamas, who never watches a football match, doing it for a huge, personal financial gain, as is the case with the Spurs owner. The motive of myself and my partner David Gold is to give something back to the community we came from and are still a part of.

"The Olympic Stadium will motivate and regenerate East London and Essex. We are proud to use our money to be a part of it. It works for West Ham United and all of London.

"Daniel Levy's sole argument seems to be that, in his opinion, the stadium won't work with West Ham United as the tenants. We beg to differ. What we know won't work is having a north London club having a stadium in the Borough where we have been for over 100 years. It doesn't feel right, as it isn't right. Any right-minded person would agree with us.

"Just imagine if Manchester United wanted to build as new football stadium in Bolton, it would be wrong. The Spurs plan is no different."

Sullivan also maintained, in his column for the Evening Standard, that emotion would play a key role in making the dream a reality.

''If you believe in something, you will work harder and for longer to make it a success,'' he wrote. ''You have to care. Lord Coe cares. He was emotional and full of sentiment when delivering the Olympic legacy promise which resulted in us winning the 2012 Games, against the odds. He cares as much as us about honouring that promise.

''Demolishing a feat of engineering and expertise that cost half-a-billion pounds and then knocking up a plain football ground in its place is about as cold and clinical as it gets. And, by the way, doesn't make financial sense.

''No wonder those who propose that option want the emotion stripped away and instead are choosing to patronise the tens of thousands of loyal Hammers fans who know a thing or two about atmosphere.

''We will be able to answer their desire for affordable tickets and better access at a world-class stadium that is fitting for a club that produced three World Cup winners. The fact we will be staying in our Borough to do so just makes the case even more compelling.

''After £90 million of conversion, we'll have great sightlines - no seat will have a worse view of the pitch than Wembley Stadium - and a new roof designed to create intimacy. I have no doubt that this stadium will succeed.''

KingdomYid

Come on West Ham, hope you guys win for once

yiddo59

Wednesday, February 9, 2011 at 1:01PM Exclusive.
I've managed to get hold of an exclusive 'leaked' ITK mock-up of what the Olympic Site redevelopment will look like if Daniel Levy and the club win the bid and progress with their plans. Exclusive. Not sure how much time I have before this blog article will be removed on advisement from my solicitors. Will fight the THFC lawyers and their court injunctions for as long as I can. I've also included the descriptions of the proposed additions to the area surrounding the OS which was included as part of the stolen image pack.

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1 - Chirpy Towers. To dare is to Cock-a-doodle-doo do do do. Visit the state of the art Spurs Shop and enjoy delightful Michelin quality three course meals in Chirpy's slow rotating head allowing you to enjoy the amazing view of Canary Wharf and Newham, including our deadly rivals home ground; Upton Park. The exclusive Chirpy's EyeBalls penthouse dinner rooms can be booked in advance (premium required) where you can watch the whole game whilst sat at your table...if you prefer to avoid the hustle and bustle of the crowds down below.
2 - The World Famous Home of Stratford Hotspur® and Nandos. The Nandos Stadium. Our new sponsor and club badge thanks to a multi-million pound long term deal means you'll never go hungry for football...or chicken! You can find Nandos outlets inside the stadium and be sure to order the 'take it to your seat*' bucket before the game kicks off (*take it to the seat meal deal only includes a medium coke, for large coke, extra £4 charge, fries not inclusive). The controversial inclusion of red in the stadium name and team shirts is nothing to worry about. Remember, we wore red in our badge back in 1882/83 and a red shirt between 1890-1896. Both the replicas of these shirts are soon to be available in the club shop with our new clothing tagline: Hot for Spurs and proud of our heritage.
3 - Stratford Hotspur®. Home is where the Strat® is, and Spurs is stratting it's hot stuff all over North (eastish) London. You voted to move and we've embraced our local community, repaying their hospitality with a gentle nod of approval to our new surroundings. Location? Geography? Booooring. Why tie ourselves down to a place or a name when the Spurs brand is worldwide?
Stratford Hotspur®. Refined and redefining the game of soccer®. To Revenue is to Do®.
4 - Abercrombie & Fitch / Apple Store.Stylise your lifestyle, pre and post match. Sit down, stand up and look sexy doing so by picking up the latest trends in A&F. Or if you're tech savvy or wish to be, visit the Apple Store and download the Spurs application so you can get all the very latest information after you've already seen it on tv and the internet.
5 - Paul Smith. Another one of our exclusive partnered retail shops for essential football clobber and motifs. Use your season ticket 'card' for special discounts on a wonderful range of ties, shirts and shoes so you're always looking dapper whilst taking in the atmosphere.
6 - We are N17 Land. History is important and for those that wish to live in the past, wipe that tear away you melter and rejoice! We are N17 Land brings you the very best of the olde Tottenham High Road including Bill Nicholson's Gates*, the heritage buildings, littered covered and p*ss stained roads and shut down pubs and grubby food establishments. Win a free copy of The Opus here. Honestly, we have hundreds of them to give away so don't miss out!
*Gates open at 10am on Saturday match-days and 5pm for midweek for access to car park.
7 - Starbucks. You can have a coffee and a muffin on the day to calm those pre-match nerves in one of our coffee house outlets. Free wireless included in-store for the disconcerting fan who wishes to get fierce and do battle online via blogs and forums. So don't be forgetting your ipads!
8 - Slug and Lettuce. Pre-match drink? Over-crowding? Struggling to get to the bar? Look no further than the Slug! And to make certain, we have more than just the one for you to enjoy an alcoholic beverage and give you ample time to tweet your thoughts on the team selection. Pub crawling has never been this crisp and clean!
9 - Harry Hotspur statue. Remaining true to our rich heritage, included on the grounds is an amazing tour de force iconic bronze talking statue of seasoned traveller and warrior entrepreneur Harry Hotspur, who looks East towards Upton Park with menace and an ever so subtle hint of marching fearless into battle. Listen to him sing 'Glory Glory Stratford Hotspur' (debit card charge of £5 per chorus) and point towards deepest West Ham territory. The epitome of glory and progression standing the test of time, a true echo to our past that also retains a place in the future much like Hotspur's legacy that has enriched Northumberland, Tottenham and now Stratford.
10 - Replica Town. Be sure to visit the old fashion pre-match traditional walkabout. Get yourself some Caviar to go or a tuna salad at 'Seastar Fish bar'. Enjoy a sit down meal at Pavro Ocakbas Vegetarian Restaurant or if you've already eaten at home just order yourself a cocktail at the Bricklayers Wine Bar.
11 - Monorail. For our exclusive 'Platinum True Fan' members, get to and from the Docklands in the super fast Monorail sponsored by Bloomberg that will take you from your executive box straight back into the hub of the banking world within minutes. All other season ticket holders, club members and tickets purchased via general sale and on the day - please head towards Stratford station with plenty of time to spare to avoid congestion.
12 - Canary Wharf. Majestic, just majestic! The amazing backdrop on the horizon that will light up the sky on those Glory Glory nights making them that extra special.

therecklessone

Please let this be true...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-12412739

KingdomYid

therecklessone wrote: »

Please let this be true...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-12412739

Here is hoping Ronan, would be the best result of the season if true.

RichMc70

Hatch99 wrote: »

The war of words between West Ham and Spurs over the Olympic Stadium has reached new heights after Hammers co-owner David Sullivan hit back at Daniel Levy's arguments for handing the site to the North London club, in an interview with ESPNsoccernet.

As much as I don't like David (Pornographer) Sullivan, his view and that of his club has been far more honest, transparent and genuine than that of THFC Plc.

Regardless of whether hammers fans want to move to the stadium or not, at least their club has been upfront and honest with them from day one.

My biggest fear is that the financial lure of the Spurs bid (plus brown envelopes) will overwhelm the Olympic Park Legacy Committee as opposed to the integrity and genuine needs of the local community needs of the WHU/Newham Council bid.

In the meantime Levy has become the smallest bully in the playground with his comments regarding the NDP

""That is absolutely dead in the water"

"We have made it clear that the current stadium proposals at Tottenham are not viable so that is not something we are able to proceed with.
"At the moment we do not have an alternative."

Basically Levy is trying to portray the sentiment that if we don't get Stratford then the club is fcuked. Complete and utter bollix from somebody who is obviously an intelligent man but seems to think he can cod the world with his utter bullsh1t.

Spurs have bought up more than 3 times the amount of land they require to increase stadium capacity within the NDP and in the meantime have demolished nearly a third of those buildings. The other remaining properties are purchased but leased out on a very short agreement. This buying of land/property has been taking place over years and some of it at times when values where far higher. What value would they get for the same land/properties now if we moved to Stratford. The only thing keeping values up in the area is Spurs.

Bad business IMO.

Surely the cost of demolishing the Olympic Stadium and then rebuilding is going to have some affect to the financial detriment of the team. Theres no public finances (unlike Arsenal emirates) supporting our outlay for this Stratford project. Therefore the finance will be funded purely by the fan/ticket purchaser and what revenue the club gains from tv, advertising and the selling of our most talented players etc.

Would you be happy to let the the likes of Bale, Modric and VDV move away to fund the move to Stratford. It will happen when we move.

PS> West Ham beat Tottenham to win Olympic stadium backing....Please God

therecklessone

RichMc70 wrote: »

As much as I don't like David (Pornographer) Sullivan, his view and that of his club has been far more honest, transparent and genuine than that of THFC Plc.

I'm sorry Rich, I'd usually be in agreement with you on all things stadium related but the people behind West Ham are as duplicitous as our own chairman. How many schools were we tearing down to build Stratford (according to that banshee Brady)? They claim a ST waiting list of 23k yet fail to fill their ground for the Carling SF? I call bullsh1t.

And I also think it an absolute disgrace that Newham Council are putting people out of work while guaranteeing their borrowing to fund their bid.

But fúck them, tonight looks like a good night

Leinstersqspur

Surely folks, if West Ham are successful Tottenham will soon become the 4th biggest club in London behind Arsenal, Chelsea and soon West Ham.

West Ham will soon have a taxpayer funded state of the art new stadium, along with revenue from the sale of Upton Park providing liquidity to attract top players in the short-term future....

As much as I want to remain at the lane, I fear for our stature as a club the longer we go without a modern stadium.

Fingers crossed the Hammers get relegated!

RichMc70

therecklessone wrote: »

I'm sorry Rich, I'd usually be in agreement with you on all things stadium related but the people behind West Ham are as duplicitous as our own chairman. How many schools were we tearing down to build Stratford (according to that banshee Brady)? They claim a ST waiting list of 23k yet fail to fill their ground for the Carling SF? I call bullsh1t.

As I said I don't have any regard for Mr. Sullivan. Not the sort of family I'd want my daughter to marry in to. He's as bad as Levy but at least he's upfront from day one. Unlike our slippery CEO.

I personally feel that if any FOOTBALL club were to make a claim to the Olympic Site then as a Londoner, the West Ham bid would be the most logical one. I don't give a fcuk that they are keeping the running track, WHU, will most likely get rid of that in a few years time anyway. I don't give a fcuk about British Athletics either.

I do however think that

a) THFC Plc have been lying to us, the supporters, for many months and completely denying any reasonable consultation during that time
b) WHU have history in that area of London, unlike us, and if any club deserved it then they should (even though there fans are not on board)
b) Most importantly, our club directors have been plotting to move our beloved club to a completely alien area to our historic territory for nothing more than financial reasons.

I'm now awaiting the next sweeping statement from Mr. Levy. Maybe it could be "MK Dons Stadium here we come".

DamienKilmurray

Leinstersqspur wrote: »

Surely folks, if West Ham are successful Tottenham will soon become the 4th biggest club in London behind Arsenal, Chelsea and soon West Ham.

West Ham will soon have a taxpayer funded state of the art new stadium, along with revenue from the sale of Upton Park providing liquidity to attract top players in the short-term future....

As much as I want to remain at the lane, I fear for our stature as a club the longer we go without a modern stadium.

Fingers crossed the Hammers get relegated!

Don`t Agree at all. Tottenham and Arsenal are by far the biggest clubs in London. The stature of a club is not based on a modern stadium. It`s based on the clubs History, Heritage and support and we totally out weight Chelsea and West Ham in that respect. West Ham will never attract top players, they have always been a feeder club for the rest of the premier league. If it`s true that they have won the bid for the Olympic Stadium, it is great news!!

Wearen17 COYS

RichMc70

Leinstersqspur wrote: »

Surely folks, if West Ham are successful Tottenham will soon become the 4th biggest club in London behind Arsenal, Chelsea and soon West Ham.

West Ham will soon have a taxpayer funded state of the art new stadium, along with revenue from the sale of Upton Park providing liquidity to attract top players in the short-term future....

As much as I want to remain at the lane, I fear for our stature as a club the longer we go without a modern stadium.

Fingers crossed the Hammers get relegated!

Spurs and Arsenal will alwys be to the two biggest clubs in London. I dont think you understand the demographics of London.

everdead.ie

therecklessone wrote: »

I'm sorry Rich, I'd usually be in agreement with you on all things stadium related but the people behind West Ham are as duplicitous as our own chairman. How many schools were we tearing down to build Stratford (according to that banshee Brady)? They claim a ST waiting list of 23k yet fail to fill their ground for the Carling SF? I call bullsh1t.

And I also think it an absolute disgrace that Newham Council are putting people out of work while guaranteeing their borrowing to fund their bid.

But fúck them, tonight looks like a good night

The average attendance has been less than 28,000 in the league this year that is over 8,000 below capacity.

Also calling there bid transparent is terrible they will get rid of that track as soon as they can and then athletics in London won't have any legacy at all. Brady is mad in fairness I mean I think she might be clinically insane with some of the stuff she comes out with. Personally I'm still on the fence although my better half (from Haringey) is leaning toward staying where we are she still isn't sure though.

WHL

Reports this morning suggest that we are going to lose out. Northumberland park might be ressurected before the end of the week

golfball37

Its a done deal- The Ammers ave it. Thankfully.

Levy will now push ahead with his plan to move somewhere else I bet? As I said earlier there should be a condition on the move should Spurs get it that the club cannot be sold. That might dampen his enthusiasm somewhat?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/olympics/8314885/West-Ham-beat-Tottenham-to-win-Olympic-Stadium-battle.html

Leinstersqspur

RichMc70 wrote: »

Spurs and Arsenal will alwys be to the two biggest clubs in London. I dont think you understand the demographics of London.

DamienKilmurray wrote: »

Don`t Agree at all. Tottenham and Arsenal are by far the biggest clubs in London. The stature of a club is not based on a modern stadium. It`s based on the clubs History, Heritage and support and we totally out weight Chelsea and West Ham in that respect. West Ham will never attract top players, they have always been a feeder club for the rest of the premier league. If it`s true that they have won the bid for the Olympic Stadium, it is great news!!

Wearen17 COYS

With all due respect, half my family is from North London so i'm confident that I understand the demographics. Unfortunately, football clubs are not about community anymore, twenty years ago before Sky rolled in perhaps?!

In my honest opinion, stature in the modern game is not based on heritage or history (sadly) but on the clubs ability to attract top players. The reason we fail to land our 'marquee striker' is because of our wage restriction, why? because our gate receipts are too little....

We are now the sixth richest club in England and until we have a big enough stadium the gap between us and them will increase.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3403936/Manchester-City-soar-up-rich-list-after-Manchester-Utd.html

Too be honest I wasn't for the Olympic bid at the beginning, but then I heard Mabbut and Greavsie backing the bid and they know our history and heritage more than I ever will!

RichMc70

Leinstersqspur wrote: »

Surely folks, if West Ham are successful Tottenham will soon become the 4th biggest club in London behind Arsenal, Chelsea and soon West Ham.

Where abouts on that rich list were West Ham? Did they even make the top 100?

We are now the sixth richest club in England and until we have a big enough stadium the gap between us and them will increase.

Chelsea's capacity is 41,841 and until Arsenal moved to the Emirates only four years ago their Highbury capacity was only 38,419 and since the move they have won fcuk all. Stadium capacity does not define success.

Too be honest I wasn't for the Olympic bid at the beginning, but then I heard Mabbut and Greavsie backing the bid and they know our history and heritage more than I ever will!

Gary Mabbutt is still on the payroll of THFC Plc, working the hospitality suites on match days so he's hardly going to come out against his employers views. As for Greavesie, a brilliant footballer and legend for Spurs but has some very opposite views about football in general. Coincidentally he was born in East Ham not a million miles away from Stratford.

I (and I think most of us) will agree with you that we do need a bigger stadium but IMO the Straford site was a last minute thought out scheme that got the directors excited in the hope that they could sell off the club quicker than expected and at a more inflated price.

Levy is p1ssed that we are not going to get any grant from the Greater London Authority (which Arsenal/Emirates did to the tune of nearly £100m) but it's all about timing Daniel. We are in the middle of the biggest worldwide recession of all time. Won't go down well with the general taxpaying public in London if the GLA start chucking millions at a Plc company to build a new home.

We would be better off scrapping the affordable homes, the new community supermarket, the museum and the luxury hotel they proposed for the NDP and just concentrate on building a fcuking football stadium. The amount of land Spurs have acquired in the area, they could build three stadiums. If we took out the executive boxes and added new tiers to the existing stadium we would increase capacity by nearly 10k. But Levy thinks the idea of building in N17 is "not viable". That's just bullsh1t.

RichMc70

Spurs ready for legal battle as West Ham win Olympic stadium bid

The north London club will consider a judicial review of the selection process as rivals West Ham are due to be confirmed as the winning bidder tomorrow.


Spurs chairman Daniel Levy has recently raised concerns over the process and sources say they will mount a challenge if there is any evidence of political interference in the decision.
Leading figures from athletics, Labour politicians, Olympic board members and key City Hall figures have all backed West Ham's proposals.
The East End club says it will deliver on legacy promises by sharing the stadium with athletics. Spurs planned to demolish the Stratford venue and revamp the running track at Crystal Palace instead.
Tomorrow the 14-strong board of the Olympic Park Legacy Company is expected to vote in favour of West Ham's bid. The decision will then be referred to ministers and Mayor Boris Johnson, but it is thought unlikely that they will challenge the recommendation of West Ham.
It is thought the Hammers' proposal will trump the Spurs bid by meeting more of the selection criteria. These are to achieve a long-term solution for the stadium that provides value for money and to find a club capable of operating a legacy solution.
West Ham's owners David Gold and David Sullivan have answered concerns about the long-term viability of their plans if they get relegated from the Premier League by providing personal financial guarantees.
Their club has been the frontrunner to take over the stadium and has been helped by a backlash from Spurs fans opposed to leaving their White Hart Lane home.
Last week a BBC poll revealed that 80 per cent of Londoners were opposed to the demolition of the Olympic stadium and 70 per cent supported West Ham's plans.
Tottenham MP David Lammy, who has led a campaign for Spurs to stay in north London, said: "If ratified this is the right decision for Tottenham and the right decision for London. The next few days will be important to see whether Daniel Levy decides to go for a judicial review of the decision and the people of Tottenham will be in limbo for some time yet.
"The relief will be huge as everyone has been rattled by this as you can imagine when the biggest employer in the poorest neighbourhood in the city threatens to pull out."
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-olympics/article-23922167-spurs-ready-for-legal-battle-as-west-ham-win-olympic-stadium-bid.do


He's like a dog with a bone that Levy,

everdead.ie

West ham the prefered bidders unanimous decision.
Shoul point out it still has to go through parliament and borosilicate Johnson.

Emoran

West ham awarded the preferred bidder status for the Olympic park , which should mean a end to stratford... Where to now is the question ?!

Robxxx7

Emoran wrote: »

West ham awarded the preferred bidder status for the Olympic park , which should mean a end to stratford... Where to now is the question ?!

Mid table mediocrity and unable to compete with the richer clubs in the league.

or

Mid-table mediocrity for a few years and a huge debt around our necks if we rebuild WHL.

I dunno ... love our stadium but we have to do something ... perhaps head out towards Enfield or somehwere

Sugarfree

Robxxx7 wrote: »

Mid table mediocrity and unable to compete with the richer clubs in the league.

or

Mid-table mediocrity for a few years and a huge debt around our necks if we rebuild WHL.

I dunno ... love our stadium but we have to do something ... perhaps head out towards Enfield or somehwere

Which part of Kerry is Enfield in? I cant remember passing through it anytime I was down there on Holidays.

sgb

All Spurs fans should be delighted West Ham got the athletics stadium

everdead.ie

Sugar is hilarious good luck to them it's not going to work but good luck to them :pac:

Robxxx7

sgb wrote: »

All Spurs fans should be delighted West Ham got the athletics stadium

i'd prefer us to have a new stadium ...... but the light at the end of the tunnel will be a stadium barely half full with the only view being an athletics track with a championship team playing in there