Do some of the people who reply to threads just depress ya

WindSock

They do have it in other cultures. In NZ they call it 'tall poppy syndrome'
I agree it is not as rife there as it is here though.

mikom

mariaalice wrote: »

hence we dont have riots against the government the way they had in Grease

But this country is Auto-matic. Its System-matic. Its Hyyyyydro-matic.

Terry

mariaalice wrote: »

:mad:

For example someone says i have lost my job and im struggling to get by at the moment...in an instant you will get someone saying get rid of the broadband and sky the that reply will get multiply thanks...the inference is that the original poster is a feckless waster!!!!!

Then theres....everyone on social welfare is a sponger followed by lots of hear say...that one always gets lots of thanks as well

Followed by all public servants are a bunch of wasters.

I was following a tread in the Irish economy about public servants and one of the contributories said nursing is becoming a glamor profession!!! only in Ireland would you get someone saying nursing was a glamorous profession...you would never get a German saying something like that.

The amount of resentment, ignorance, nastiness among Irish people is astounding.

Here's what you do:
Every time you see a post in which someone is whining on about dole scroungers, or immigints, or public service workers, or whatever, Just remember that this person is most likely really fat, ugly, single, a virgin, spotty, living with his parents and has no friends.

Then just point and laugh at how sad their life is.

The grammar nazis get me down though.

medicman2009 wrote: »

By whom? Any paise I've given or heard has been well earned I can assure you.



Just a job? I think not. Good wages? Having worked with them for many years, they certainly are not well paid enough.



Precisely, that's why they are called nurses aids.

Heh.

J K wrote: »

maria alice your a censorship Nazi that wants to order people what to think and say. I think you should put a Swastika in your signiture.
Hail Hitler

Yeah. This is the internet. Free speech for all.
Oh, wait...

Dudess

mariaalice wrote: »

Dudess i normally agree with your posts but this time i have to say i dont...resentment and begrudger is a very Irish thing that you dont see as much in other cultures...the thing about stereo typing is it has to have some roots in reality or it wouldn't developer as a stereo type...every countries has a culture and a way of living and reacting that is different hence we dont have riots against the government the way they had in Grease we are more likely to moan and complain and do nothing because we are IRISH.....its suppose to have developed because we were ruled by the British for 800 years... Irish people developed two way of speaking one to their landlords and British rulers ( deferential ) and one among our selves...not sure if i agree fully with that as an explanation!

Fair points, but - and none of this post is aimed squarely at you btw, I'm talking in general - I do think the explanation for Irish discontent as begrudgery can be trotted out a bit too easily. Begrudgery, which is essentially jealousy, is not an exclusively Irish trait, even if we are more predisposed than others, as a people, to succumbing to it. And dislike of people who happen to be successful may not always be due to jealousy (e.g. I don't like Michael O'Leary because he comes across as an obnoxious bully, he can have all the millions he wants) - this notion of "Only show respect to those who are successful" anyway seems a bit... spineless or something.

In the cases you mentioned though, it just seems like people acting the cockhead rather than begrudgery.

I also find the irony of Irish people whingeing about the Irish being whingers here kinda priceless... :pac:

FlutterinBantam

Dudess wrote: »

Fair points, but - and none of this post is aimed squarely at you btw, I'm talking in general - I do think the explanation for Irish discontent as begrudgery can be trotted out a bit too easily. Begrudgery, which is essentially jealousy, is not an exclusively Irish trait, even if we are more predisposed than others, as a people, to succumbing to it. And dislike of people who happen to be successful may not always be due to jealousy (e.g. I don't like Michael O'Leary because he comes across as an obnoxious bully, he can have all the millions he wants) - this notion of "Only show respect to those who are successful" anyway seems a bit... spineless or something.

In the cases you mentioned though, it just seems like people acting the cockhead rather than begrudgery.

I also find the irony of Irish people whingeing about the Irish being whingers here kinda priceless... :pac:

Cockheads:D

Great expression, lot of the fcukers in here I would opine

:cool:

medicman2009

medicman2009 wrote: »

Work extra hours (unpaid),
work extra shifts,
Working continually with dangerously low levels of staff which other professions or industries would never tolerate.
Work continually beyond what we would consider a normal 40 hour week per week.
Doing administration duties - which is not there job.
Performing cleaning duties - which is not their job.
I have seen countless nurses come off call from night duty and then report for a day shift in less than 24 hours - blatantly illegal I might add. Oh they never moaned about it, it just boils my blood that they put up with it.
Assaulted and threathened while on duty and yet still turn up for work. A garda friend of mine was on sick leave for 6 months after receiving a push. It was all 'psychological' of course.



So now the INO are holding 2 strikes per year? You are talking about the right country here I assume? The last time the INO striked was in 2007 and it was pathetic really - a series of 1 hour stoppages. The reason for their strike you ask? Nurses were being increasingly taken away from their patients. Why? Because they were increasingly having to perform adminstration duties - which wasn't their job.

Regarding nurses aids, I have never heard nurses denegrating the role of nurses aids. I was highlighting that the very title indicates what their role is - to aid nurses.

In fact the only time I have heard a nurse complain, is when they are taken away from doing what they do best - looking after all of us.

Oh piss off. We all have to do things that is not 'our job', just to ensure that our businesses can open the following day.

What are you, 10 years old?

I can't believe after 2 years of the **** the country is in, we still have these attitudes...if they don't like what they have to do, they can leave and get another job.

KevinVonSpiel

mariaalice wrote: »

:mad:

For example someone says i have lost my job and im struggling to get by at the moment...in an instant you will get someone saying get rid of the broadband and sky the that reply will get multiply thanks...the inference is that the original poster is a feckless waster!!!!!

Then theres....everyone on social welfare is a sponger followed by lots of hear say...that one always gets lots of thanks as well

Followed by all public servants are a bunch of wasters.

I was following a tread in the Irish economy about public servants and one of the contributories said nursing is becoming a glamor profession!!! only in Ireland would you get someone saying nursing was a glamorous profession...you would never get a German saying something like that.

The amount of resentment, ignorance, nastiness among Irish people is astounding.

What kind of crap is that statement?

Sardonicat

A little off topic but felt I had to speak up for Health Care Assistants
@ Windsock and Medicman

The correct job title for a nurses aid is a Health Care Assistant. A little pedantic maybe, but the idea of the "nurses aid" doing all the dirty work is a little demeaning and untrue. The "dirty work" you refer to is an essential part of caring for the sick and nurses are happy to do it alongside the HCAs. If the person doing that work regarded it as "dirty work" imagine how the patient they were caring for would feel?


I worked for a while as a HCA and I loved my job. The vast majority of the nurses and doctors that I worked alongside treated me with the greatest of respect and were appreciative of my contribution to the wards (which, as with the nurses, at times meant going without breaks, staying back late/ starting early without pay...sometimes giving a very tired Dr. a hot cuppa and some toast at 3am so they could grab a bite to eat on the ward whilst doing their paper work )


Occasionally, I came across the odd nurse who seemed to enjoy demeaning me with what s/he regarded as menial work. These people exist in all walks of life, unfortunately. As far as I'm concerned, this kind of behaviour is far more reflective of the person displaying it then it is of the person it is intended to demean.


I think, Windsock, that HCAs don't get the same kind of recognition from the public as nurses because they are a relatively new deveolpment in Irish hospitals and the role is not as defined here as it would be in the UK. I think, over time, as nursing becomes more specialised we will see the HCAs come into their own in terms of recognition, training and pay. The patients I cared for certainly appreciated what I did for them, which is born out by the fact that, despite leaving my HCA job nearly 10 years ago, a woman stopped me in the street just last week to thank me for how well I cared for her mother during her final days.


Dirty work? I think not.

End of off topic post.

K-9

Well said Sardonicat.

Some people seem obsessed with the PS, SW etc. threads, some for years now.

Most people realise spending can't go on the way it is, but some seem to love that.

Real people are behind these user names, a little empathy costs nothing. They just the social intelligence to do that.

In short, they know the price of everything, the value of nothing!

WindSock

Sardonicat wrote: »

Dirty work? I think not.

No of course it isn't, but you know what I meant by it. I didn't intend to insult anyone. The reason I had a gripe was because my friend worked as one and was bullied and looked down upon by some of the nurses, who took the credit for some of the toughest work (dirty work) imo. Moving the patients in the beds, lifting them, washing them, changing their clothes, etc.
I worked as a home care assistant myself for a brief spell, I have to say I enjoyed it as I was on my own with the elderly in their homes and I was not getting hen pecked like my friend, even when some of the clients themselves said they preferred the care assistants when they were in hospital to the nurses, that made me wonder. That is what annoyed me intially about the nurses struggle. There are plenty of others working their asses off in hospitals, not just the nurses.
I was wrong also to assume they were always on strike. Must have been getting them mixed up with the teachers.

Sardonicat

WindSock wrote: »

No of course it isn't, but you know what I meant by it. I didn't intend to insult anyone. The reason I had a gripe was because my friend worked as one and was bullied and looked down upon by some of the nurses, who took the credit for some of the toughest work (dirty work) imo. Moving the patients in the beds, lifting them, washing them, changing their clothes, etc.
I worked as a home care assistant myself for a brief spell, I have to say I enjoyed it as I was on my own with the elderly in their homes and I was not getting hen pecked like my friend, even when some of the clients themselves said they preferred the care assistants when they were in hospital to the nurses, that made me wonder. That is what annoyed me intially about the nurses struggle. There are plenty of others working their asses off in hospitals, not just the nurses.
I was wrong also to assume they were always on strike. Must have been getting them mixed up with the teachers.

Windsock; moving, washing, changing and feeding is what a Care Assistant does! That's the job. And no, it's not dirty work, it's CARE!

Having said that, I too have experienced bullying at the hands of nurses. Again, I stress, the majority of nurses are fantastic, hard working people but sadly, it does seem to attract a minority who need a victim. There are some (tiny minority) who think that they don't have to do any "hands-on" when the HCA is around. If your friend was left lifting heavy patients alone she should have complained to management, as this is strictly against Health and Safety. In my experience, nurses that bully HCAs also bully other nurses, students and can make life harder than it needs to be for junior Dr.s. In short, it's not the fact that they are nurses that's the problem, it's the fact that they are bullies. You will find them everywhere, I'm afraid. I've met some less than caring HCAs too, you know?

IMO, most nurses, Drs, HCAs, porters, in fact, anyone who works in health, are decent, caring people doing a very tough jobs that all, in their own way, are stressfull and demanding.

Irish Guitarist

What I hate is when someone asks for advice in the Personal Issues forum and a bunch of idiots post sarcastic or just downright ignorant replies. It annoys me more than depresses me though. As for After Hours, I don't really care enough about it enough to let it depress me.

Kasabian

Woke this morning in a good mood. Ready for a good weekend. Logged onto AH to see if any epic threads had germinated overnight hopefully with a few good laughs plastered around it.

Sadly as with the case of most days of late in AH,no,I am met with depressing stuff, eg. a kid being tapped to a wall by a couple of distinctly inbred looking twats from a story from The Daily Mail.

Maybe it's just me and I might be getting overly sensitive in my old age but the fun has really gone from this place, replaced by the mindless begrudgery, bigotry and delusion and determination to flood the forum with everything depressing that can be found on the internet.

AH is really losing it's appeal for me anyway and don't tell me to head over to Rainbows and Sunshine, I haven't the required dose of medication to be able to survive there.

Even this thread with it's initial good OP has another thread running concurrently within.

Anyway I am not going to add to the problem as I see it and going to go and try and make the most of my weekend.
Have a good one all.