...for President!

Kidchameleon

sdonn wrote: »

In other news, life isn't fair.

At the end of the day, he's a public figure who served his country (and himself, granted) for 11 years - he deserves some recognition for that. Anyone in the same position is entitled to the same allowances, and on a point of principle he shouldn't be victimised because of them.

At the end of the day, he hasn't been convicted of anything and while I think it's very unlikely he had no involvement in taking political back-handers I think that people continuing to blame him for the state the country is in now is totally unfair and a complete overreaction. Yeah it seems he did wrong, but the label of him as the crook who stole Ireland's future is undeserved, that blame lies equally with the ministers and the Financial Regulator who didn't plan, didn't regulate and who basically continued the Irish status quo of "ah it'll be grand". The blame lies with successive generations who failed to make us into a progressive, well-planned out society and Bertie was only one of thousands who just wasn't arsed planning ahead.

On a personal level, he's a friendly fella, charismatic and good at large aspects of his job - you never heard of him slacking off on holidays to inchydoney like CJ, he seemed to work hard at the very least - and given that Uachtarán na hÉireann does basically no legislating at all other than as a figurehead, I'm gonna stick my neck out and say I think he'd be a very GOOD president.

I'll also stick my neck out further and say it'll never happen. On a political level, the voters of Ireland would have zero integrity if they elected someone who was known to be dodgy. Maybe I'm contradicting what I said above, but that's how politics work. It's be the ultimate epitome of the "it'll be grand attitude" and I hope it doesn't happen for that reason only. If all the scandal had been kept under wraps, I think Bertie would possibly have been the most popular President ever.

Joe?

JerryHandbag

Has Albert Reynolds thrown his hat in the ring yet? He seems to do it every 7 years.

Ulysses Gaze

No

^^^^

Albert is 'too ill' to do anything. Can't give testimony in court so surely can't stand for the Presidency?

Biggins

dubes wrote: »

I love bertie Bassett
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

You forgot the last name so I put it in for you.

Sonnenblumen

Suckers prefer hardboilers.

Biggins

Jelly Babies man here.

Ulysses Gaze

No

sdonn wrote: »

Bah, I'm preaching to the boards.ie/AH/FG coalition here. What's the point.

No, I think you're preaching to a bunch of people who don't fall for Ahern's 'Man of de Peeple' shtick anymore.

Like it or not, people outside of the still bafflingly high 25% who support FF, are pretty p!ssed of with Ahern, the lies he told and the lies he's still telling. And even some of them, the 25%, probably despise the lying prick for what he's gotten them into.

I'm not affiliated with any party - I'll vote for a party whose policies I think will work rather than vote for a political party like I'd support a soccer team.

I also don't vote for politicians like Ahern who try and build a Cult of Personality rather than any actual, meaningful policies.

Biggins

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

No, I think you're preaching to a bunch of people who don't fall for Ahern's 'Man of de Peeple' shtick anymore.

Like it or not, people outside of the still bafflingly high 25% who support FF, are pretty p!ssed of with Ahern, the lies he told and the lies he's still telling. And even some of them probably despise the lying prick for what he's gotten them into.

I'm not affiliated with any party - I'll vote for a party whose policies I think will work rather than vote for a political party like I'd support a soccer team.

I also don't vote for politicians like Ahern who try and build a Cult of Personality rather than any actual, meaningful policies.

Well put!

seriously with leave the country if that odious laughing knome gets in

Mike 1972

Deleted User wrote: »

Well, TBH I can't join the torch&pitchfork crowd on tony & bertie purely because of the Good Friday Agreement.

What you mean the f€cker had some sneaky secret clause written in on the decommissioning of torches and pitchforks ?

mickydoomsux

Darrell Attractive Undergarment wrote: »

seriously with leave the country if that odious laughing knome gets in

No you won't.

ejmaztec

mickydoomsux wrote: »

No you won't.

How do you know?

Einhard

ejmaztec wrote: »

How do you know?

Because at least 40 people a day say something similar on some thread on boards, and it's a tad difficult to believe that someone will pack their bags and leave the country just because FF gets re-elected/Bertie becomes president/RTE don't cancel Fair City.

starbelgrade

You've got to be f*cking kidding me. I swear, if there's any chance that he becomes our head of state, I'm renouncing my citizenship.

Sykk

So what exactly does the president of this country do anyway? Besides live off of our taxes?

starbelgrade

Sykk wrote: »

So what exactly does the president of this country do anyway? Besides live off of our taxes?

They wave a lot.

sligopark

Ah sure who else?

Ahern?

Norris?

Gorman?

Bono?

All self serving pricks - time for a different way of choosing a president?

kraggy

starbelgrade wrote: »

You've got to be f*cking kidding me. I swear, if there's any chance that he becomes our head of state, I'm renouncing my citizenship.

Why? He's just about the most honest politician in the whole country. Well spoken, outspoken on human rights and would be very good at meeting/hosting other heads of state thus maybe gaining trade contracts as McAleese did last week.

He's educated, cultural and has never done a dodgy thing in his life.

Why not?

starbelgrade

I hope Dustin runs for it again.

epgc3fyqirnbsx

But he could right an epic poem about it

mike65

The man is a bumptious prick.

and he won't be able to indulge in this sort of thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG9dVyN6yf8

Kasabian

Rafael Wailing Kiln wrote: »

But he could right an epic poem about it

Which epic poem do you think needs to be righted

starbelgrade

Rafael Wailing Kiln wrote: »

But he could right an epic poem about it

Oh Presidency of Ireland,
How I love your symbolism,
As head of state,
You are as useful as a broken gate,
But you mean so much to me,
To me,
You mean so much to me.

koura

Michael O'Leary, he could turn Phoenix Park into an Airport and I'm open to suggestions for the Aras.

The_Kew_Tour

starbelgrade wrote: »

You've got to be f*cking kidding me. I swear, if there's any chance that he becomes our head of state, I'm renouncing my citizenship.

Higgins >>>>> Bertie

kippy

No, just no.

ascanbe

mike65 wrote: »

The man is a bumptious prick.

Ah, c'mon, he's not that bad; he was just saying that he doesn't like the idea of Michael D. Higgins becoming president.

ytareh

Had considerable respect for this guy BEFORE his performance on Morning Ireland this morning ( no not HIM!)He started out ok by being fairly gracious about Fergus Finlay but then went on an epic ego trip including 'letting slip' that he recieved a standing ovation at some recent conference/lecture...Finlay would be a far better Labour nomination ,Id also like David Norris to get a good run at the job...

PogMoThoin

I'd gladly vote for Michael D, anyone, as long as Bertie doesn't get it

FreudianSlippers

Sykk wrote: »

So what exactly does the president of this country do anyway? Besides live off of our taxes?

In RE: Article 26, the most important job in our country.

PKen

I like Michael D Higgins, David Norris and think Shane Ross is brilliant. But I don't want any of them or anybody else in the Park. The question should be, why a President at all. Like the Senate, it should be abolished. However, if we must have a President, let's have one of the above. If Bertie is elected, that'll completely shatter my faith in this country. Then it'll be time to emigrate.

kumate_champ07

sligopark wrote: »

Ah sure who else?

Ahern?

Norris?

Gorman?

Bono?

All self serving pricks - time for a different way of choosing a president?

how so?

starbelgrade

OisinT wrote: »

In RE: Article 26, the most important job in our country.

Don't be silly. That's Trappiatone's job.

Kasabian

I think he would make a very good President but I would prefer if he stayed in politics and being a voice or human rights.

Kasabian

starbelgrade wrote: »

Don't be silly. That's Trappiatone's job.

No thats his translator, we wouldn't have a clue what he is at if it wasn't for her.

I wonder will we be ordered out of this thread

Ulysses Gaze

No

Look, does it really matter which of those who've put their name forward gets elected as long as it's not that odious snake Ahern?

tolosenc

starbelgrade wrote: »

Don't be silly. That's Trappiatone's job.

Trappiatone?

tolosenc

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

how so?

He's a self obsessed moron with only one agenda?

FreudianSlippers

I'm definitely voting Norris. What a legend!

Son Of A Vidic

I thought the President had to be a woman? But then again maybe he......


* quickly tries to close can of worms *

starbelgrade

PKen wrote: »

I like Michael D Higgins, David Norris and think Shane Ross is brilliant. But I don't want any of them or anybody else in the Park. The question should be, why a President at all. Like the Senate, it should be abolished. However, if we must have a President, let's have one of the above. If Bertie is elected, that'll completely shatter my faith in this country. Then it'll be time to emigrate.

David Norris is an elitist numpty. At one stage, he campaigned to have the Georgian Terraced street in Dublin - where he lives - gated at each end, in order to prevent common "plebs" from using it as a short cut & making the place look shabby.

If he was made President, he'd probably close the Pheonix Park to the public, as he wouldn't want to see the filthy masses messing up his garden.

Celly Smunt

tolosenc wrote: »

Trappiatone?

wolfe tones' italian nephew ya know,theobald trappiatone..

FreudianSlippers

starbelgrade wrote: »

David Norris is an elitist numpty. At one stage, he campaigned to have the Georgian Terraced street in Dublin - where he lives - gated at each end, in order to prevent common "plebs" from using it as a short cut & making the place look shabby.

If he was made President, he'd probably close the Pheonix Park to the public, as he wouldn't want to see the filthy masses messing up his garden.

But then again I'm an elitist numpty so, I guess we'll get along!

starbelgrade

OisinT wrote: »

I'm definitely voting Norris. What a legend!

Chuck Norris, I presume?

flyton5

OisinT wrote: »

I'm definitely voting Norris. What a legend!

+1


If just to piss off the homophobes and staunch Catholics...


actually homophobes kinda covers the staunch Catholics...

FreudianSlippers

starbelgrade wrote: »

Chuck Norris, I presume?

Of course... he can be our first openly gay president!

Killer Pigeon

I'd vote for Norris. Chuck, that is.

flyton5

OisinT wrote: »

Of course... he can be our first openly gay president!

He's just the best man for the job. Educated, well spoken etc.

aoshea83

OisinT wrote: »

I'm definitely voting Norris. What a legend!

I would def vote for norris, he has charisma that would make him a good head of state

starbelgrade

flyton5 wrote: »

He's just the best man for the job. Educated, well spoken etc.

Are we still talking about Chuck Norris?