Is Limerick a safe place to stand out?

Amazotheamazing

Insect Overlord wrote: »

I spent lunch time in town today. Walked around Arthur's Quay, Cruise's Street, up William Street and down Lr. Gerald Griffin Street and back down William Street to Harvey's Quay. I stood tall and kept my eyes up the whole time and didn't once get accosted, or even thrown a dirty look.

I'd do the exact same any time I walk around town, be it on Henry, O'Connell, Catherine or Thomas Street with no hassle.

I've only once been intimidated in town. That was after eleven o'clock one night back in May. I guess three students walking around with Burger King crowns is probably considered asking for trouble though...

Surprised you even got hassle for the Burgerking crowns, but yeah, I agree.

Maybe we should start a contest, who can keep their head up longest without getting mugged, I'm at 28 years so far, surely I'm way overdue a mugging for not keeping my head down?

Insect Overlord

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

Surprised you even got hassle for the Burgerking crowns, but yeah, I agree.

Maybe we should start a contest, who can keep their head up longest without getting mugged, I'm at 28 years so far, surely I'm way overdue a mugging for not keeping my head down?

I doubt the crowns were the reason we sere stopped really. Four scumbags wanted to mug some students, and they picked on us. Fortunately enough, we only had about €13 between us, and I knew enough about self-defence to get the three of us away. One of the lads who was there with me posted this recently:

I feel pretty safe walking around Limerick. Funnily enough I went 3 years without even a drunken student annoying me and then on my last night out, IO, secondhanddress and I were jumped by some young ruffians. It would have to be the last night out

Amazotheamazing

Insect Overlord wrote: »

I doubt the crowns were the reason we sere stopped really. Four scumbags wanted to mug some students, and they picked on us. Fortunately enough, we only had about €13 between us, and I knew enough about self-defence to get the three of us away. One of the lads who was there with me posted this recently:

13 quid, not too bad, one of my g/f's mates was mugged for a kebab in Galway. The recession is hitting us all.

pappyodaniel

Insect Overlord wrote: »

I've only once been intimidated in town. That was after eleven o'clock one night back in May. I guess three students walking around with Burger King crowns is probably considered asking for trouble though...

Was it these guys? You play karate don't ya?

Amazotheamazing

pappyodaniel wrote: »

Was it these guys? You play karate don't ya?

To say he plays Karate is like saying Rocky is handy with his fists, IO is a wrecking machine, he'll murderise you in three rounds.

limklad

zuroph wrote: »

But the topic asked is if you are at a higher risk of being attacked for being different, such as homosexual in Limerick. The answer IMO is no, you'll find homophobes the world over. The rates may be a little higher than other western countries, as we're still quite under the catholic thumb, but itd be worse in a country town than a city like Limerick. Try being gay in any small village or town in the west of Ireland, and you'll find Limerick a much more welcoming place.

I would not put it down under the Catholic Thumb, The Church has very like control/power and influence now. There is plenty of Atheists/Jews/Muslims/Other Christians etc who do not like Gays no matter who they are, even gays within their own families. But thankfully they are in the minority who are insecure in their own sexuality or anything different.

I even know a gay guy who reject his gayness out of his own shame (not enforce by his family or friends who are tolerant more precisely they do not care about sexuality as long it is not a black one, that includes anyone with tan skin :eek:) and he abused other gays/Straight men because he was attracted to them and wonders why he could not get it up for women.

The way I see it is that if there are more gays around, then there are more women for me to play with.

limklad

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

13 quid, not too bad, one of my g/f's mates was mugged for a kebab in Galway. The recession is hitting us all.

I heard of another guy from work, who was mugged him for free coupons two years ago in Galway's Eyre Square. There was plenty of free coupons were all over the place been giving out. Yea, the recession is hitting us all right :pac:

Amazotheamazing

limklad wrote: »

I heard of another guy from work, who was mugged him for free coupons two years ago in Galway's Eyre Square. There was plenty of free coupons were all over the place been giving out. Yea, the recession is hitting us all right :pac:

Mugged for free coupons, say what you like, at least our scumbags have a bit of ambition.

ninty9er

Over 5 years I've been going out in Limerick at night, andhad to go to Tralee to end up getting a dig and my 2 friends stabbed. Their uncle asked what part of Limerick they were in when he heard, but wasn't long shutting up when he heard it was Tralee.

Limerick's got a media rep, other places are much less safe in general. I wouldn't walk to my parent's house from town alone after 11 anymore, but for example I wouldn't have any issue walking from the Hurlers to Monaleen or Milford Grange.

Limerick's not all that bad.

MissHoneyBun

Raiser wrote: »

Amazo, if I remember correctly, you are unfortunate enough to be stuck with a Business in Limerick City and thus will go to any length to defend everything negative said about it no matter what the circumstances or how stark and grim the evidence is as its in your own personal and financial interests to do so.

I am just using my senses and sense to deduce that Limerick is far from being a safe, pleasant and desirable place to spend time - If you want to contradict the obvious then at least be up front about it, state your concerns and quote your Accountant or something.....

I got the feeling personal interests might have something to do with the lengths some people go to here to defend and deny the glaringly obvious truth.

pstokes

im from county limerick,went to college in dublin and my work placement was in dublin. because of that i feel that i can confidently say that towns such as ennis,newcastle west are the most dangerous due to poor policing

munstergirl

I wander around limerick city as a female on my own.

Don't keep my head down either.

Its the same as any other city in the world use common sense.

The only thing that annoys me is the professional chuggers. They should be banned.

billox

i've lived in limerick all my life and have been working in the city center for the last 8 years all of those spent working in a bar and i've never had any trouble day or night and i wouldn't be a big fella, in fact in the last 5 or 6 years i've rarely seen a fight in the city center late at night

billox

just reading back on my last comment thats just my experience some people will obviously disagree

Amazotheamazing

MissHoneyBun wrote: »

I got the feeling personal interests might have something to do with the lengths some people go to here to defend and deny the glaringly obvious truth.

Again, all I said was I had no problem walking around Limerick with my head up. Are you frightened to walk around Limerick city?

It's clear (so far) that Raiser's experience of being afraid to raise his head in town isn't all that common.

Honestly, if I was afraid walking around town I'd say it. I'm honestly not afraid to walk around any city in Ireland. When I lived in Dublin I'd often walk home alone through Finglas and the Liberties.

MissHoneyBun

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

Are you frightened to walk around Limerick city?

Frightened, not usually. Very wary, yes. Though I must admit when it was reported that a woman was dragged from her car and beaten by several men with bats in broad daylight on a Sunday afternoon then yes, I did feel somewhat frigtened. As I did when a woman had a glass smashed in her face leaving work on William Street at 5pm on a Tuesday. And I think that's an understandable way to feel to be honest.

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

When I lived in Dublin I'd often walk home alone through Finglas and the Liberties.

As have I, there's nowhere I wouldn't go in Dublin unaccompanied really. Nor have I ever felt remotely frightened there. Unfortunately, my experience with Limerick is different. The city, that is. Not Castletroy at all.

Jumpy

My shows weren't great, but I never tied people up and forced them to watch. And I could've, because I'm a big guy and I'm good with knots.

Amazotheamazing

MissHoneyBun wrote: »

Frightened, not usually. Very wary, yes. Though I must admit when it was reported that a woman was dragged from her car and beaten by several men with bats in broad daylight on a Sunday afternoon then yes, I did feel somewhat frigtened. As I did when a woman had a glass smashed in her face leaving work on William Street at 5pm on a Tuesday. And I think that's an understandable way to feel to be honest.



As have I, there's nowhere I wouldn't go in Dublin unaccompanied really. Nor have I ever felt remotely frightened there. Unfortunately, my experience with Limerick is different. The city, that is. Not Castletroy at all.

I suppose it just highlights how important perception can be, frankly, the entire northside of Dublin city is far dodgier, in my experience, than Limerick, as are places like Darndale and Tallaght. course, if I was a local to those areas I'd probably be fine with the places.

I can understand why a single female would be wary, I don't see any reason for a man to be though.

Nockz

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

I can understand why a single female would be wary, I don't see any reason for a man to be though.

:pac:

Wat?

Raiser

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

Are you frightened to walk around Limerick city?

What you seem to be deliberately failing to realise in a repeat offence manner is that thread has nothing to do with whether Joe Bloggs or Mary Smith is or is not afraid to walk anywhere?

- Its about Limerick City and questions the perception that it is an unpleasant, extremely poorly policed area where unfortunately crime and assaults on the Person are all too common events.

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

It's clear (so far) that Raiser's experience of being afraid to raise his head in town isn't all that common.

You've been asked to stop twisting words - Stick to the facts or ultimately you'll just look dishonest and petty.

- I said that in Limerick its best to keep your head down and keep moving, its a turn of phrase :rolleyes:

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

Honestly, if I was afraid walking around town I'd say it. I'm honestly not afraid to walk around any city in Ireland. When I lived in Dublin I'd often walk home alone through Finglas and the Liberties.

Finally you are starting to make sense - Your contributions on this topic are centralised around your personal notions of how streetwise you think you are and how you can 'handle' yourself.

I've seen Folks like you laid out cold that didn't even see it coming and they probably weren't the ones that were cocky or innocent of the threats in their environment either.

- Its a solid statistical fact that 98.3734% of all Victims of serious crime thought they were 'grand' 3 seconds previously

Amazotheamazing

Raiser wrote: »

What you seem to be deliberately failing to realise in a repeat offence manner is that thread has nothing to do with whether Joe Bloggs or Mary Smith is or is not afraid to walk anywhere?

- Its about Limerick City and questions the perception that it is an unpleasant, extremely poorly policed area where unfortunately crime and assaults on the Person are all too common events.



You've been asked to stop twisting words - Stick to the facts or ultimately you'll just look dishonest and petty.

- I said that in Limerick its best to keep your head down and keep moving, its a turn of phrase :rolleyes:



Finally you are starting to make sense - Your contributions on this topic are centralised around your personal notions of how streetwise you think you are and how you can 'handle' yourself.

I've seen Folks like you laid out cold that didn't even see it coming and they probably weren't the ones that were cocky or innocent of the threats in their environment either.

- Its a solid statistical fact that 98.3734% of all Victims of serious crime thought they were 'grand' 3 seconds previously

No they aren't, they are based on my everyday experience of Limerick city.

Raiser, you highlighted your fear of walking around Limerick and expected people to agree with you, several people have come on this thread and said they disagree with you, you seem to be unable to believe they might disagree with you.

I have no issue believing you are frightened, just stop believing everyone else is scared too.

Btw, it wasn't a "turn of phrase" it was advice, bad advice imo.

It's actually hilarious that I, 99'er, IO, and LmkLad have disagreed with you and you still think everyone is frightened walking around Limerick.

Raiser

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

It's actually hilarious that I, 99'er, IO, and LmkLad have disagreed with you and you still think everyone is frightened walking around Limerick.

Oh well I see then - How long did it take to run the stats on the huge and unbiased survey of you and your Mates !!!!

- Now thats hilarious......

Please quote the part where I said I was afraid - You don't seem to value your reputation or credibility at all Since when is it acceptable to simply make stuff up to try and get a point across? Its just poor and immature form out of you IMO

People have more cop on than to simply believe your simplistic and ill-founded point of view Kid - Your contribution to this thread has basically been, and I paraphrase it as I see it, "I'm hard and I go where I like for example Finglas and once I was up after 10pm in Caherdavin"

- Some night you'll get your teeth knocked out and come on here to thank me

(Thats a joke - Perish the though......etc)

Amazotheamazing

Raiser wrote: »

Oh well I see then - How long did it take to run the stats on the huge and unbiased survey of you and your Mates !!!!

- Now thats hilarious......

Please quote the part where I said I was afraid - You don't seem to value your reputation or credibility at all Since when is it acceptable to simply make stuff up to try and get a point across? Its just poor and immature form out of you IMO

People have more cop on than to simply believe your simplistic and ill-founded point of view Kid - Your contribution to this thread has basically been, and I paraphrase it as I see it, "I'm hard and I go where I like for example Finglas and once I was up after 10pm in Caherdavin"

- Some night you'll get your teeth knocked out and come on here to thank me

(Thats a joke - Perish the though......etc)

Just to be clear, are you now saying you aren't frightened to walk around Limerick?

And if you aren't frightened, why do you think people should walk around with their heads down and keep moving?

I love how you assume the people who agree with me are my mates, we're just regular Limerick folk who don't exist in a constant fear. To be clear, I've never met any of the other guys who disagree with you.

I've lived in Limerick for most of my life, I walk around town shopping during the day and socialising at night, I've never come across a reason to walk around with my head down, why can't you accept that? Why do you think that it's an ill-founded point of view?

Like I said, you are perfectly free to be frightened, just stop assuming everyone else is.

Raiser

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

Like I said, you are perfectly free to be frightened, just stop assuming everyone else is.

I never said that - You need to move on from your one fake argument, its a bit lame and childish to make out a point that doesn't exist or simply invent facts.

- For example, while you are perfectly entitled to wear your Sisters thong, I don't think anyone has a right to judge you for your decisions, no matter how sick and twisted they may be, whatever helps you get by is your own business I suppose (?) I just think its very, very odd Amazo...... :eek:

P.S. I've never in over 6 years added a Poster here on Boards.ie to my ignore list - But if I can't take a Man at his word and trust him to be honest and straight with me then I'd rather save the screen space for decent, reliable Folk......

Insect Overlord

Before this gets any more ridiculous, I think we should get back to the original point. Amazotheamazing has (I think) tried to show that it's fine for your average fella around town to walk about as normal and not to be hassled. Raiser has (I think) tried to show that it would be safer to avoid making eye contact, and that it's better to move on quickly.

What about those who aren't average or typical? Are they just asking for trouble by standing out or looking different?

the_syco

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

It's clear (so far) that Raiser's experience of being afraid to raise his head in town isn't all that common.

"Keeping your head down" is a another way of not looking for trouble. It's a well known saying.

=-=

Me, I've only been attacked twice my entire life. Once by someone who thought I had a shotgun on me, and the second by someone about the same size as me (6 foot 6), military build, and coked out of his head.

When walking around Limerick, Dublin, Belfast, Galway, etc, I keep my head up, look at something 50 yards away, and ignore all eye contact from the scumbags.

=-=

Insect Overlord: making eye contact will get you noticed. Make eye contact with the wrong person, and they may see fear. If they see fear, they see something that will amuse them for the next few minutes, to show off.

Minorities are seen as an easy target. Gays (or anyone wearing a pink shirt who doesn't look "well 'ard"), or coloured folk will get attacked for that reason.

Amazotheamazing

Raiser wrote: »

I never said that - You need to move on from your one fake argument, its a bit lame and childish to make out a point that doesn't exist or simply invent facts.

- For example, while you are perfectly entitled to wear your Sisters thong, I don't think anyone has a right to judge you for your decisions, no matter how sick and twisted they may be, whatever helps you get by is your own business I suppose (?) I just think its very, very odd Amazo...... :eek:

P.S. I've never in over 6 years added a Poster here on Boards.ie to my ignore list - But if I can't take a Man at his word and trust him to be honest and straight with me then I'd rather save the screen space for decent, reliable Folk......

What part of any of my posts aren't honest?

You clearly don't feel it's safe to walk around Limerick, when people point out it is safe you accuse them of being liars.

Amazotheamazing

the_syco wrote: »

"Keeping your head down" is a another way of not looking for trouble. It's a well known saying.

This is the original advice Raiser gave to people walking around Limerick,

"honestly if you are in Limerick City Centre at any time of the day or night keep your head down, keep moving and don't draw any attention to yourself for any reason"

Does that sound the way an adult should behave in any city in Ireland?

MissHoneyBun

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

"honestly if you are in Limerick City Centre at any time of the day or night keep your head down, keep moving and don't draw any attention to yourself for any reason"

Does that sound the way an adult should behave in any city in Ireland?

No it doesn't. But until we live in an ideal world where things operate as they 'should', I know I'll take all necessary precautions to keep my life running as smoothly and peacefully as possible.

Amazotheamazing

MissHoneyBun wrote: »

No it doesn't. But until we live in an ideal world where things operate as they 'should', I know I'll take all necessary precautions to keep my life running as smoothly and peacefully as possible.

Ok, do you think it's how an adult need act in Ireland?

Irish cities are very safe places. Ireland in general is a very safe place.

Edit here's some stats to show how Limerick compares with other Irish cities.


The safest spots in the nation, based on headline crimes per 1,000 of populace, are

Roscommon/Galway East - 8.27
Donegal - 8.4
Clare - 8.4
Mayo - 8.77
Cork West - 8.93
Cavan-Monaghan - 8.95

The most dangerous spots, as would be expected, are in Dublin's inner city.

Dublin - North Central - 124.00
Dublin - South Central - 97.49

After this, the trouble spots in Dublin fall off hugely.

Dublin - Eastern - 23.84
Dublin - Southern - 23.80
Dublin - Western - 23.22
Dublin - Northern - 19.64

Cork City 20.93,
Waterford/Kilkenny at 20.05.
Limerick at 16.75

So Limerick comes after all of Dublin, Cork, Waterford and Kilkenny. By comparison, inner city Dublin is positively lethal.