Global Village on Newstalk

Floppybits

Nekarsulm wrote: »

What type of programme would posters here put on, in Dill's time slot, if they could commission a show?

I wouldn't mind the history show. I always enjoyed on a sunday evening.

Dr Turk Turkelton

alchemist33 wrote: »

I'd only ever heard of this show on boards, and now I'll never hear it

Count your blessings.

kunst nugget

Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote: »

Are you personally connected to Dil?

This is a serious question btw. There seems to be a 'Dil mafia' within the boards.ie moderators...maybe she organised a media workshop for certain mods in the past.

One mod defends her from the gaggle of poster gleefully dancing on her grave and suddenly there's a 'Dil Mafia'? Bloody hell…

I didn't enjoy her show but I don't understand the celebrating that's going on here.

NinjaTruncs

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

She says in this video that she was "reaching" 300,000 people on this video (from 2012).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mYwZc4qnfM

She said NewsTalk was reaching 300,000, later she said her show had 25,000 listeners and that she was just told the figures increased by, I think she said, 30%, making it a bit over 32,000 listeners.

I'd have Newstalk on in my car most of the time but like other I almost always turned it off when Global village came on, but that might have been more so that I usually want to listen to music on a Saturday evening.

etselbbuns

kunst nugget wrote: »

One mod defends her from the gaggle of poster gleefully dancing on her grave and suddenly there's a 'Dil Mafia'? Bloody hell…
I didn't enjoy her show but I don't understand the celebrating that's going on here.

The general consensus is that it was an appalling show.

Ol' Donie

Ha, a Dil mafia, indeed.

"Hey, Tony. Come on, get in the car so we can go whack this Vercetti bozo, like the boss said. Hey! Tony come on."

"I dunno Vito. I'm having second thoughts about this. I mean, do you ever think about how unfair this all is? I mean there's you, me, Tommy, Vincenzo, Vinny, Marco, the other Tony and then Salvatore. Ever think the proportion non Italian-American members is below what it should be? Plenty of other immigrants waiting to be employed as a hitman, but we never embrace them. Is that something we need to talk about?"

"Can we just go please? Let's make this guy dead."

"There's another thing. Who said Vercetti was a guy? You just presumed that. What does that say about you? And also, have you ever noticed we whack a disproportionately high number of males over females? And why is it a hitman, not a hitperson?"

"Get the f*ck out of my car, Tony."

Tombo2001

Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote: »

Are you personally connected to Dil?

This is a serious question btw. There seems to be a 'Dil mafia' within the boards.ie moderators...maybe she organised a media workshop for certain mods in the past.

Are you personally connected to Denis O'Brien? There seems to be a Denis O'Brien mafia within certain contributors*.

*Just wanted to give you some context for how annoying that question is.

Harry Angstrom

Two annoying attention seekers removed from their regular Newstalk slots in the space of a month. Now that's a result.

geraardo

If she lost her job due to poor ratings fair enough, i tried listening to the show i didn't like it, simple as that, so i switched off.

I hope it was for poor ratings and nothing else.

run_Forrest_run

best thing to happen to Saturday evenings on Newstalk, lets hope they replace it with something interesting.

yosser hughes

Dr Turk Turkelton wrote: »

Count your blessings.

That could be the name of a new show.
Count Your Blessings with Fr. Brian Darcy

PeterTheNinth

geraardo wrote: »

I hope it was for poor ratings and nothing else.

Yeah but I think that that is what makes it serendipitous for Newstalk. I'd say that they were looking for an opportunity to get rid of her, and then she walked of her own volition.

HurlingRanker

geraardo wrote: »

If she lost her job due to poor ratings fair enough, i tried listening to the show i didn't like it, simple as that, so i switched off.

I hope it was for poor ratings and nothing else.

She made it very clear that it either herself or Hook had to go.

Hook apologised, and was demoted to a weekend slot. They took adequate action against him. He put his hand up and accepted his punishment. For some people that's not enough, fair enough, but Newstalk chose the more rational approach.

After that, they were left with an employee who refused to do her job, and one who accepted his punishment. It's not up to her to determine what disciplinary action should be taken against other employees, Newstalk made the correct call.

wnolan1992

Late to the party, going to spew some thoughts:

• Didn't particularly care for the show. Thought she wa a poor presenter overall, and as others have said, probably over divisive for the type of message she was trying to impart (a valid and worthwhile message IMO).
• I haven't been following the NT saga closely, but if she was refusing to do her show following the George Hook incident, I would not blame management for stepping in. As is said over and over again, "Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequence.", Dil would have been within her rights to protest, NT well within their rights to show her the door for slating the station in public and refusing to work.
• I would be interested in seeing her listenership figures. IIRC, the last ones available were actually quite high for that timeslot, so I'm sure there will be a lot of people disappointed by this news.
• In terms of what's going to replace it, I would hope that NT would keep the format and keep it as a show dedicating to highlighting minority issues. One of the oft cited complaints about radio in this country is that it's overly homogenised. I think it would be a great shame if this were to be replaced with another standard talking head show, or by just adding another hour of repeats or placeholder productions from the Sound and Vision fund to the Saturday schedule.

For the record, I have no connection to Dil. All the money she pays me to write positive things about her comes through a series of middle men, so you just go right ahead and prove my connection!

Tombo2001

HurlingRanker wrote: »

She made it very clear that it either herself or Hook had to go.

Hook apologised, and was demoted to a weekend slot. They took adequate action against him. He put his hand up and accepted his punishment. For some people that's not enough, fair enough, but Newstalk chose the more rational approach.

After that, they were left with an employee who refused to do her job, and one who accepted his punishment. It's not up to her to determine what disciplinary action should be taken against other employees, Newstalk made the correct call.

It appears that she has been fired.

Thats hows she is pitching it. Its almost academic what actually happened here - its what people think happened that matters; and her supporterss of which there are many (she has twice as many twitter followers as Ivan Yates) will think she has been shafted and treated badly; which is a continuation of the wider theme of Newstalk being a radio station with a major gender imbalance that it has made no effort to address.

Ursus Horribilis

Regardless of her gender, she deserved a P45. Not just for her behaviour but for that radio show she presented. It was a poor product and she wasn't up to scratch as a presenter. DJs and presenters get the bullet all the time - it's part and parcel of the business we're in.

Calhoun

Tombo2001 wrote: »

It appears that she has been fired.

Thats hows she is pitching it. Its almost academic what actually happened here - its what people think happened that matters; and her supporterss of which there are many (she has twice as many twitter followers as Ivan Yates) will think she has been shafted and treated badly; which is a continuation of the wider theme of Newstalk being a radio station with a major gender imbalance that it has made no effort to address.

Twitter followers aren't really anything to go by and i wouldn;t think they would be reflective of the wider audience. I recently saw a visual ( i think it was on boards) of twitter followers and groups and how they interact and for the most part its an echo chamber people with similar beliefs gather around each other and occasionally will spar with people from other political beliefs.

I do agree however she will milk this narrative for all its worth, at the end of the day though Newstalk is a privately owned business and will make the right commercial decision for itself regardless of sex of the presenter.

If they are to diversify its presenting staff i hope they will pay for a decent presenter and not give it to someone just off the street, which i think is Newstalks primary problem because they don't hire the right kind of people or train them it leads allot of bad presenters to suffer with ratings. I think they got lucky through trial and error with some of their male presenters, Ivan was an ex politician and a perquisite for that job is a bit of mojo and media savy, Sean has allot of past presenting experience ect ect. Then you have the good doctor who is double jobing and playing the role of the authoritative doctor which rubs people up the wrong way.

Compare this with RTE, i know i have said this on here before but look at Claire Byrne. During her time at newstalk she was a really bad presenter and probably why Chris is so bad at times because she was a mentor to him in some ways ( by this i mean the uncontrolled bias and position of outrage on issues/not letting your interviewee speak). Since moving to RTE however she must have been taken under the wing of a more seasoned presenter or had some internal training as its hard to recognize the old Newstalk Claire Byrne.

Tombo2001

Ursus Horribilis wrote: »

Regardless of her gender, she deserved a P45. Not just for her behaviour but for that radio show she presented. It was a poor product and she wasn't up to scratch as a presenter. DJs and presenters get the bullet all the time - it's part and parcel of the business we're in.

Thats completely subjective, I would say the same about Paul Williams, Ivan Yates, George Hook and Ger Gilroy. As mentioned she got good listenership for time of week.

Ursus Horribilis

Calhoun wrote: »

If they are to diversify its presenting staff i hope they will pay for a decent presenter and not give it to someone just off the street, which i think is Newstalk's primary problem because they don't hire the right kind of people or train them it leads a lot of bad presenters to suffer with ratings.

This ^^
The mind boggles that they gave people like Paul Williams, Alan Quinlan, Woolly Parkinson, Ciara Kelly and Bobby Kerr presenting jobs. Ivan Yates just about gets away with it I think. It's as if they favour quasi famous people over presenters who are good at what they do. Are there no presenters on local radio who could make the step up, for example? Journalism graduates? Outcasts from RTÉ?

Ursus Horribilis

Tombo2001 wrote: »

Thats completely subjective, I would say the same about Paul Williams, Ivan Yates, George Hook and Ger Gilroy. As mentioned she got good listenership for time of week.

I don't disagree that they're not great either. We don't knew what her ratings were. I've heard a figure of 12k. If that's true, that's an appalling figure.

BillyBobBS

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Two annoying attention seekers removed from their regular Newstalk slots in the space of a month. Now that's a result.

Newstalk defo moving in the right direction. If they can get rid of Chris Donoghue and Coleman then i might start listening again.

wnolan1992

BillyBobBS wrote: »

Newstalk defo moving in the right direction. If they can get rid of Chris Donoghue and Coleman then i might start listening again.

"Right" being the operative word.



:pac: :pac: :pac: :pac:

Sorry, I don't actually believe that, it was just too easy a joke.

The Specialist

For anyone feeling sorry for her, and not familiar with Victim Village, go back and read the very first post in this thread. That sums up the whole show week in, week out. Nothing to be missed.

Benildus

captain caveman wrote: »

Good old Dill and Victim Village...

This quote from the early pages deserves re-quoting

seachto7

Surely a show for a few hours per week could be picked up by another national or regional station?
What would her wage have been for that show that she couldn't get somewhere else?
She could start a podcast and then get a true figure on how big her audience is.
Victim Village. Hilarious.

wnolan1992

seachto7 wrote: »

Surely a show for a few hours per week could be picked up by another national or regional station?
What would her wage have been for that show that she couldn't get somewhere else?
She could start a podcast and then get a true figure on how big her audience is.
Victim Village. Hilarious.

It could, but would another station take a punt on her?

Look, radio stations are corporate entities. Would they want someone in the fold who is likely to take a vocal stand against something that happens in the company?

Leave aside whether or not you agree with Dil or not on GH. That's irrelevant here. The company made one decision, Dil disagreed and came out publicly against it.

It's like the Second Captains lads. They made a fairly reasonable request to test out their show in front of the wider drivetime audience (remember, management would later go on to do this with Continuity-OTB). Management refused, the lads walked or were pushed out the door as a result.

Rightly or wrongly, they damaged their employment prospects by doing this. As Dil has here.

Conservative

As others have said the premise of the show is a good one and could make for an interesting show if it was more broadly focused and less negative about everything and anything Irish.

I haven't listened in about 5 years but judging by what I have seen of her since then nothing has changed.

I recently read here that she was once "homeless". Hilarious. Is there any misery fest she won't join?

Delighted. It couldn't happen to a more deserving person.

GottaLaugh

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

She says in this video that she was "reaching" 300,000 people on this video (from 2012).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mYwZc4qnfM

In roughly her own words from 17 seconds into the video:
For me (in Ireland) there is a triple glazed ceiling. I'm a woman, I'm a migrant and a lesbian. I'm here to tick all your equal opportunities boxes. Three minorities in one.

Women being a minority :rolleyes:

As a radio presenter she is amateur at best.
She never did more that "highlight" an issue, never a proper examination, always an unengaging, one note, drum-beating.

My impression of her as a public figure is that she defines herself as a one-dimensional oppressor fighter. I think most of the posters on here doubt (not her sincerity) but the reality of her oppression, especially in modern Dublin. Its a convenient shtick, out of which she managed to establish a career. It is in her personal interests to maximize perceived oppression.

Why? So she can occupy the high moral ground, excuse personal failures and dismiss even valid criticism (hate speech/racism/misogyny/homophobia) plus make a living. All she need to do is be a migrant lesbian. Cool trick.

Tombo2001

GottaLaugh wrote: »

In roughly her own words from 17 seconds into the video:
For me (in Ireland) there is a triple glazed ceiling. I'm a woman, I'm a migrant and a lesbian. I'm here to tick all your equal opportunities boxes. Three minorities in one.

Women being a minority :rolleyes:

She doesn't have to be referring to the wider population when referring to women as a 'minority'.

One could equally be referring to positions of power and influence....

Such as executive boardrooms.....no Irish bank has ever had a woman CEO.

Such as government.....like the current government for example.

Such as in the media.....no need to extrapolate on this one.

Nekarsulm

Given Newstalks penchant for putting untested presenters into the hot seat, and given the ongoing rumblings about inequality within the stations presenters along male/female lines, why not try some of the producers in Dil's slot?
We are told that 10 out of 11 producers at the station are female, so if Dil, Paul W's and a few other male presenters were replaced by the female producers and hire men as replacements for them, it would start to balance up the sex's ratio at Marconi House.
Taa daa! Everyone happy

Benildus

Tombo2001 wrote: »

She doesn't have to be referring to the wider population when referring to women as a 'minority'.

One could equally be referring to positions of power and influence....

Such as executive boardrooms.....no Irish bank has ever had a woman CEO.

Such as government.....like the current government for example.

Such as in the media.....no need to extrapolate on this one.

BOI's new CEO is female

seachto7

Ursus Horribilis wrote: »

This ^^
The mind boggles that they gave people like Paul Williams, Alan Quinlan, Woolly Parkinson, Ciara Kelly and Bobby Kerr presenting jobs. Ivan Yates just about gets away with it I think. It's as if they favour quasi famous people over presenters who are good at what they do. Are there no presenters on local radio who could make the step up, for example? Journalism graduates? Outcasts from RTÉ?

Parkinson is a journo graduate. If you are good at presenting or writing, it shouldn't matter whether you have a qualification or not.
That's like saying everyone who comes out of the BIMM college deserves to make it in music..

daheff

Tombo2001 wrote: »

S

Such as executive boardrooms.....no Irish bank has ever had a woman CEO.
.

Eh ...BOI have - Francesca McDonagh

http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/bank-of-ireland-names-highranking-female-banker-as-new-ceo-35728385.html

Loafing Oaf

Ursus Horribilis wrote: »

This ^^
The mind boggles that they gave people like Paul Williams, Alan Quinlan, Woolly Parkinson, Ciara Kelly and Bobby Kerr presenting jobs. Ivan Yates just about gets away with it I think. It's as if they favour quasi famous people over presenters who are good at what they do. Are there no presenters on local radio who could make the step up, for example? Journalism graduates? Outcasts from RTÉ?

It's not 'as if,' that is actually their policy. Like I was saying in another thread, it's not what I'm looking for in a radio presenter but I understand why they do it...

Tombo2001

daheff wrote: »

Eh ...BOI have - Francesca McDonagh

http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/bank-of-ireland-names-highranking-female-banker-as-new-ceo-35728385.html

Fair enough, she started 4 days ago.

Nonetheless the point firmly stands as women are in an extreme minority in senior management positions in large Irish companies.

Including in Bank of Ireland where the new CEO is one of 2 women on a 12 person board.

suicide_circus

Tombo2001 wrote: »

Fair enough, she started 4 days ago.

Nonetheless the point firmly stands as women are in an extreme minority in senior management positions in large Irish companies.

Including in Bank of Ireland where the new CEO is one of 2 women on a 12 person board.

Dats on account of de childer

Calhoun

The Specialist wrote: »

I say this from a purely personal viewpoint and experience - I hope I never again have to deal with a female CEO/VP.

My company had a female VP for 2 years - one of the vilest, most horrible, ignorant human beings I have ever had the misfortune to meet. Nearly 120 staff left entirely due to her and the disgusting attitude she held towards everyone who reported in to her. So my personal viewpoint is now tarnished beyond repair when it comes to this topic of discussion.

Women who think "bitch mode" is a professional or decent way to conduct themselves, should be kept far away from managing any sort of project. It doesn't seem to ever occur with male management staff, funny that.

Mod note to thread: Cut the gender bashing unless you want a ban.

Have personally had allot of female managers and had completely the opposite experience, in fact I would go as far as saying I developed allot more under them than men.

However this statement is sexist one bad manager doesn't make up an entire sex of people.

Ok guys, lets keep the conversation to the topic at hand and veer away from anyone's gender, please and thanks.

CatFromHue

While I don't want to disagree with a mod in their forum I did laugh when you said not to talk about gender in a thread about the Global Village show :pac::D:D

Calhoun

Here is hoping they do keep a slot like this in place in the radio and look to improve it.

Funny thing is i normally love this type of radio, i was a big fan of the old talking history program (not sure if its still going) and i did listen to this program at one time.

I think however to do the program justice it may mean moving it out of the wilderness of the weekend and maybe do during a weeknight slot at some point ,you might get some better folk to interview.

southstar

GottaLaugh wrote: »

In roughly her own words from 17 seconds into the video:
For me (in Ireland) there is a triple glazed ceiling. I'm a woman, I'm a migrant and a lesbian. I'm here to tick all your equal opportunities boxes. Three minorities in one.

Women being a minority :rolleyes:

As a radio presenter she is amateur at best.
She never did more that "highlight" an issue, never a proper examination, always an unengaging, one note, drum-beating.

My impression of her as a public figure is that she defines herself as a one-dimensional oppressor fighter. I think most of the posters on here doubt (not her sincerity) but the reality of her oppression, especially in modern Dublin. Its a convenient shtick, out of which she managed to establish a career. It is in her personal interests to maximize perceived oppression.

Why? So she can occupy the high moral ground, excuse personal failures and dismiss even valid criticism (hate speech/racism/misogyny/homophobia) plus make a living. All she need to do is be a migrant lesbian. Cool trick.

I think the target audience of the show was minorities and although well intentioned Id say that many found it a bit tiresome.For fun she should have include the "its PC gone mad brigade " brigade...equally tiresome and repetitive but it would be fun for a while

Lt Dan

When you publicly REFUSE to continue to Work for your paymaster, over a condition/issue that has absolutely nothing to do with your ability to work (in fact, it makes for content on your show) and you do so publicly, how on earth could Dil be surprised that the show finally was put out of its misery?

She more or less repudiated her working relationship with NT by that stupid tweet

Not content with having to deal with the George Hook Affair and the now Political Editor playing judge and jury and making unauthorized statements days later , which could have seriously prejudice NT in their ability to ensure that Hook got due process , they had to deal with Dil publicly threatening to quit . She called NT's bluff and she lost! By all means , call their bluff, but do not do it publicly.

She would have seen how the Old Off The Ball Team fared when they called Dinny's bluff when looking for better time slot. Another station might have given in. They handed in their resignation or threatened to do so, and I doubt they expected to have it accepted. They most certainly did not expect to be on "gardening leave" (a term they enjoyed at the time of ex Hull City FC manager issue)

Remember the Old OTB Weekday team was the award winning and massive crowd pulling OTB Team and probably the best thing about NT at the time, the group that had any sponsor willing to have their business associated with it,

Dill played with fire and got burned. She had a nice little gig (no one with a brain cell would have her on air at another station, and she knows this , since she was willing to do her show on the cheap ) and got away with poor production , poor presenting and poor listernership . She knows well that the public reaction would be very negative if she tries to pull the "woe me , I am a lady" or "freedom of speech" stunt.

Lt Dan

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

That was a very gracious statement by DW, for such a sudden end to a person's career. I say this as a regular user like everyone else, not as a radio mod, but there's a special place in hell for anyone dancing on the grave of someone who's just lost their job and has young children to raise.

I occasionally listened to the show, although I wasn't the biggest fan of how its content was handled. At its worst, Global Village was an echo chamber, devoid of all serious debate. But at its best, it was a genuinely interesting series that shone a spotlight on a more diverse, outward-looking society that we should strive for.

I might try track down some listeners hip figures tonight. I can't have been the only one, nor among the only handful, who tuned in.

Notwithstanding my reservations about how the show handled its content, I think the Irish radio landscape is all the duller without this weekly show. It did no harm, certainly not enough to merit the berating it got. This country would be a far more positive place if we had a few more Dill Wickramesinghes about.

1. Hell is a fairy tale

2. She had zero issue lobbying for the removal of a colleague, she even publicly refused to work because of it. That alone is grounds for dismissal, especially at the crisis point that NT were at

3. Problem with Dil was, people saw her stunt for what it was. NT listeners made it very clear , on social media that she ought to proceed with her threat to quit as she would not be missed. Problem with Dil and her effort to get a colleague fired was, she is no Pat Kenny or other big star, whom , had they threatened to quit, might have made NT sit up and take notice.

4.She got what she deserved, she should have thought about the kid before her stunt , so dance away lads

5 "This country would be a far more positive place if we had a few more Dill Wickramesinghes about"

Explain that. Dil's rants are far from positive in fact. They achieve NOTHING

Lt Dan

reg114 wrote: »

A bit petty of newstalk to fire her. Hardly anyone would be listening at that time and station bosses had no problem for a decade. Surely the ceo has bigger problems to worry about ie breakfast

She publicly refused to continue her job. That seems a pretty good ground to get rid of her. She did nothing to help the station while they were in a crisis, in fact, she sought to worsen the problem .. There is only going to be one outcome after that. In fact, it was predicted

"Surely the ceo has bigger problems to worry about ie breakfast"

Dil sought , whether intentionally or not, to undermine the CEO with her public refusal to work. The George Hook crisis actually made the CEO look very bad and they clearly have shown to be incapable of controlling the staff at NT. Chris Donoghue also undermined the CEO with his comments that weekend. That was not his position at the time, but, he "didn't want to be a hero". Poor Chris ignored the fact that there was a serious issue of the requirement of due process for any investigation or disciplinary action.

Hopefully, Donoghue's head will be next. If Dinny saw sense, the CEO would be asked to follow

Lt Dan

RayM wrote: »

A lot of perennially offended "white male victims" (i.e. at least 90% of the radio forum) really hated that show because the tedious dullards can't handle listening to anything that doesn't fit in with their rotten prejudiced view of the world. In responding to the George Hook saga by keeping him, banning Irish Times journalists from all their shows and cancelling Global Village, it's pretty clear that Newstalk is firmly pitching itself towards that (thankfully) dying breed. Expect to hear them airing a lot more adverts for viagra, denture adhesive and gout medication in the future.

Having deservedly insulted almost everyone on this grim echo chamber of a forum, I have to agree that it was never a great show. The odd interesting piece, but too much rambling. Whether the host is a flatulent rugby club bore or a Sri Lankan lesbian, I really don't like it when they have their own monologue at the start of a show.

Let us put a scenario here:

You run a project or business. You are in a spot of firefighting because of the actions of one member of staff. It has the risk of losing money and contracts.

The last thing you want is another member of staff bringing up their own motives and causing more headaches. It is one thing to be handed an ultimatum , and another to do so publicly. You are completely undermined and have proven that you can not control the staff. A member of staff has refused to come back to work. The complaints that she raised have nothing to do with her ability to work.

What do you do?

Legally, that member of staff probably has handed to grounds to sack them , on a plate.

And, we have not even touched on their failure to deliver results eg sponsors and listeners and income from texts

Nah, you have put zero thought into your rant.

[MOD: SNIP]

But come on: Justify your statement

"the tedious dullards can't handle listening"

Well, actually, dear, poor Dil is incapable of holding her ground in an argument. Most reasonably informed and intelligent people could rip her arguments apart. She did generalisation , that never works. In fact, George Hook made a complete clown of her when she was last doing a segment with her about gender of her child.

"listening to anything that doesn't fit in with their rotten prejudiced view of the world"

Give three examples from this thread alone.

"banning Irish Times journalists from all their shows and cancelling Global Village, it's pretty clear that Newstalk is firmly pitching itself towards that (thankfully) dying breed."

Dying? Bless!

Last I checked, the majority commenting were at odds with a minority of vocal commentators during the G Hook affair.

Newstalk is a private business. It's aim is to make money and get listeners. Global Village royally failed to achieve that in spectacular form over the 10 odd years on air. Her show was far from "global" either. Most shows get cancelled. She repudiated her contract by publicly refusing to work..there was only ever going to be one outcome.

As for Irish Times, well, they ought to look at their own personnel, how many women journalists do they have? I don't count opinion pieces as journalism .Again, Time is a RIVAL to the Indo . In fact, despite the ever changing print media business, it is the Irish Times that has fallen spectacularly in readers. So much for their champagne socialism agenda setting ways!

MOD: Banned

Keep it civil guys. Stop going on about gender. No personal abuse. it's so easy.

Lt Dan

Billgirlylegs wrote: »

I think the concept of the how was OK. Minorities describing their experiences settling / working in this country.
This kind of vox pop is generally interesting. Made stars over the years of Paddy O Gorman, Paschall Sheehy/Marian Finucane/ Joe Duffy / Henry McKean.

I put in a fair few Saturdays working in splendid isolation listening to the radio. Newstalk had a decent mix and I could leave it on all dayOff the Ball / Movie Show then Global Village.
Problem is it - Gobal Village - was unlistenable due to presentation style, so I would switch off and listen to music.

I wouldn't have thought I was hard to please, but could not listen to the presenter.

When did Henry McKean ever become a Star? Under the Covers? ha. Is that still on?

Lt Dan

Tombo2001 wrote: »

Thats completely subjective, I would say the same about Paul Williams, Ivan Yates, George Hook and Ger Gilroy. As mentioned she got good listenership for time of week.

Ger Gilroy , was and is heavily involved in the back room team of an award winning show. It was his brain child. The presenting part is weak enough, but he is going no where. I actually referred him at the weekend. That was brilliant radio , with a round table talk to sports people just before a game.

Conservative

Lt Dan wrote: »

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

That was a very gracious statement by DW, for such a sudden end to a person's career. I say this as a regular user like everyone else, not as a radio mod, but there's a special place in hell for anyone dancing on the grave of someone who's just lost their job and has young children to raise.

I occasionally listened to the show, although I wasn't the biggest fan of how its content was handled. At its worst, Global Village was an echo chamber, devoid of all serious debate. But at its best, it was a genuinely interesting series that shone a spotlight on a more diverse, outward-looking society that we should strive for.

I might try track down some listeners hip figures tonight. I can't have been the only one, nor among the only handful, who tuned in.

Notwithstanding my reservations about how the show handled its content, I think the Irish radio landscape is all the duller without this weekly show. It did no harm, certainly not enough to merit the berating it got. This country would be a far more positive place if we had a few more Dill Wickramesinghes about.

5 "This country would be a far more positive place if we had a few more Dill Wickramesinghes about"

Explain that. Dil's rants are far from positive in fact. They achieve NOTHING

Jesus. I think I'd take a one way trip to North Korea rather than live in a country full of Dils.

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Tombo2001 wrote: »

Such as executive boardrooms.....no Irish bank has ever had a woman CEO.

Google Gillian Bowler...

Newscorps stations in Dublin have a female CEO and a female news editor as it happens

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Lt Dan wrote: »

Let us put a scenario here:

You run a project or business. You are in a spot of firefighting because of the actions of one member of staff. It has the risk of losing money and contracts.

The last thing you want is another member of staff bringing up their own motives and causing more headaches. It is one thing to be handed an ultimatum , and another to do so publicly. You are completely undermined and have proven that you can not control the staff. A member of staff has refused to come back to work. The complaints that she raised have nothing to do with her ability to work.

What do you do?

Legally, that member of staff probably has handed to grounds to sack them , on a plate.

And, we have not even touched on their failure to deliver results eg sponsors and listeners and income from texts

Nah, you have put zero thought into your rant.

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But come on: Justify your statement

"the tedious dullards can't handle listening"

Well, actually, dear, poor Dil is incapable of holding her ground in an argument. Most reasonably informed and intelligent people could rip her arguments apart. She did generalisation , that never works. In fact, George Hook made a complete clown of her when she was last doing a segment with her about gender of her child.

"listening to anything that doesn't fit in with their rotten prejudiced view of the world"

Give three examples from this thread alone.

"banning Irish Times journalists from all their shows and cancelling Global Village, it's pretty clear that Newstalk is firmly pitching itself towards that (thankfully) dying breed."

Dying? Bless!

Last I checked, the majority commenting were at odds with a minority of vocal commentators during the G Hook affair.

Newstalk is a private business. It's aim is to make money and get listeners. Global Village royally failed to achieve that in spectacular form over the 10 odd years on air. Her show was far from "global" either. Most shows get cancelled. She repudiated her contract by publicly refusing to work..there was only ever going to be one outcome.

As for Irish Times, well, they ought to look at their own personnel, how many women journalists do they have? I don't count opinion pieces as journalism .Again, Time is a RIVAL to the Indo . In fact, despite the ever changing print media business, it is the Irish Times that has fallen spectacularly in readers. So much for their champagne socialism agenda setting ways!

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Keep it civil guys. Stop going on about gender. No personal abuse. it's so easy.

Where did you 'check' the support for/against Hook.. BOARDS..?? (Ahem)... I posted to support him but felt my opinion was very much the minority one.
As for GV I don't believe it was ever conceived as a money
spinning audience magnet.. almost by definition.. it catered for minority interests...perhaps a sop to public service broadcasting hencet it's lonely isolation in the schedule. Myself it was only barely less entertaining than a Sunday afternoon broadcast of an Everton, /Swansea match.
I can only name three IT journalists.. Una Mullaley, Mriam Lord and Fintan O Toole.. It would have been educational had you enlightened us further on their supposed bias against recruiting women.... or indeed given us your opinion on their banishment from NT. Just wondering like...