Few Q's about new dog

EraseAndRewind

Hi would appreciate any help or advice on this

We (family of 2 adults and 2 kids)adopted a 7 year old samoyed male recently

The previous owners (also a family of 2 adults and 2 kids) are emigrating and cannot take him with them

The dog has been totally spoiled and hasnt been trained properly(wont respond to basic commands)

He also barks constantly (which i know is part of a samoyeds personality) and the neighbours are already complaining:(Is there any HUMANE way of curbing this ?

I know that there will obviously be a settling in period-i mean the poor fella has been taken away from his home of 7 years

Im just feeling a bit helpless tbh-is it too late at seven years old to try and train-if not would you have any advice as to how to start

He is also following me everywhere around the house even from the fridge to the cooker -has not left my side at all-is this also part of the settling in process?

His previous owners also said that he slept outside in his kennel everynight but he wont stay outside in the garden for more than 5 mins for us-we have a very large and well secured yard

I am also walking him 2 or 3 times a day

Thanks for listening to my ramblings and any tips really appreciated

cocker5

ok, first off its never too late to train a dog....

you should def bring him to dog training classes ASAP....

how long have you had him??

Where does he sleep at your house??

EraseAndRewind

Hi we have only had him a few days

There doesnt appear to be training classes in my immediate area but hopefully i will find somethig close enough

meant to say he also DRAGS me along while we are walking -i didnt realise this was wrong but just read this article and i can see im at fault too
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/articles/dogwalk.htm

he has been sleeping outside everynight -mostly because info from the net on the breed recommended this and also because previous owners always had him sleep outside

i have no problem with him sleeping inside tbh -i just want to do whats best for the dog

cocker5

Firstly maybe letting him sleep inside may help him settle in a bit better, he will feel more par of the family etc... i wouldnt worry what the websites say with reagrd its better for a dog to sleep outside, i had a huskie and he too slept inside (he died some years ago)... its your choice but it may help make him feel safe and secure... give him a bed inside with tedddies and after a few days he will feel and act better.

Secondly with the pullling on the lead, try one of these:

http://www.dogmatic.org.uk/

They will work a treat until you can find some training classes although at 7 , lead training will take time... but get a dogmatic... you will never look back...

he is only with you a few days, he has lost EVERYTHING he knows.... it will take time for him to settle in...

With the constant barking... you must nip it in the bud now... try the distraction method: get an empty coke bottle, clean it , fill with water, pierce a small hole it the top of it. When your dog is barking walk over to him DONT SPEAK TO HIM AT ALL.. squirt a tiny bit of water at him.... say nothing... do this over and over again, inside or oustide and after a few days he will learn that constant barking leads to negative behaviour etc.... this worked with my cocker who was a terrible whinger/barker..

best of luck!!

liquoriceall

hi just wondering where you are based? I recently paid for a behaviouralist to come to the house after wasting money on classes a few times during which he was unable to learn anything because he was so hyped up, she only had to come 3 times and hes a changed dog because she saw him in his own environment and was able to see him relaxed.

Bizzum

You'd certainly get a lot by getting a good behaviourist or trainer in: Pet Problems in Limerick are very good!
A good behaviourist or trainer will help you understand where your dog is coming from, including that dogs don't pull on the lead because of dominance issues! They pull on the lead simply because they've learned (through inadequate training) that it gets them to where they want to go faster.
Lucky for us, this idea that dogs while away their hours trying to plot a military coup against us is simply not true, and utterly disproven. They just do what they find works for them.

ge_ch

i agree with the previous posts.
the poor thing doesnt understand whats happening to him. put yourself in his situation.
he follows you every where because he doesnt want to be alone, esp. after his owner left him. we had a samoyed and they hate being alone. its in their nature. real family dogs, very friendly and good with children.
the pulling thing is also in his nature. samoyed are known as sleddogs. they are used for races just like huskies.
if you do some research on the breed a lot of things make sense. eskimos often have them for transport(sleddog) and they would let the dogs sleep inside because they warm them
i would also recommend a dog trainer, they can always help with behaviour problems

belongtojazz

I rescued my dog when he was 7 and it does take time for them to settle. My guy didn't know even the basic commands when he joined us, but within a couple of months he passed his bronze good citizen award in the UK, this just proves that you can teach an old dog new tricks

I use a halti with my guy to stop the pulling, I got a dogmatic but it was too big and then I forgot to send it back in time :rolleyes:

He still follows me around the house and does get concerned if I leave him in a room but we're working on that.

Fair play to you for taking on a dog that age

portgirl123

hey well done for taking a older dog, my opinion the oldies are great. Is this the guy that was up on one of the internet selling sites. Sorry not sure if i can mention names. If so he looks beautiful.
just be patince he will soon settle. just give him time and lots of love. but be firm as well, if u dont want him doing something, from the start dont let him as if in a wek or two you change your rules he will be confused and will make him more unsettled.

EraseAndRewind

thanks for all the helpfull advice i really appreciate it

yes portgirl we got him off donedeal

andreac

I see from the ad he is not neutered which is something you should probably get done sooner, rather than later.

He will take a while to settle in so just be patient with him.

I see they say they are emigrating? There are so many ads on that site with owners looking to rehome dogs as they are emigrating and i have to say i doubt half or most of them are actually emigrating, as there must be hundreds of people emigrating everyday if you are to go the ads. More of an excuse to try and get rid of the dog but who knows in your case if thats the case.

EraseAndRewind

well luckily the family are emigrating they were totally heartbroken about having to leave him behind-they have other family members here but none wanted to take on the dog as they were elderly and the dog is quite energetic

yes he isnt neutered-i would like to get him done but dh is talking about studding him out -im unsure what to do about that though

andreac

EraseAndRewind wrote: »

well luckily the family are emigrating they were totally heartbroken about having to leave him behind-they have other family members here but none wanted to take on the dog as they were elderly and the dog is quite energetic

yes he isnt neutered-i would like to get him done but dh is talking about studding him out -im unsure what to do about that though

Sorry, absolutely no, the dog isnt even registered so you shouldnt stud him out. Firstly you dont even know his pedigree and plus at 7 hes getting on a bit.

Can i ask why do you want to stud him? Is it to make some money?

I can tell you that no bitch owner will want to use your dog as firstly, he is not registered and 2nd he hasnt been shown so how do you know hes a good example of the breed?
He also hasnt been health tested for breed problems either im sure so no way should this dog be used for stud as you dont know anything about his pedigree etc.

Best thing you can do is get him neutered.

EraseAndRewind

see thats exactly what i was thinking hence why i wanted to get him neutered

we asked the vet about getting his pedigree checked and about registering him

he said something about a DNA test?

the owners said there were several people in the area that wanted to use him as a stud for their bitches but tbh i wouldnt know these people from adam hence my reluctance

he has been shown before but not in any major show-he has several cups and trophies but as you said winning 'best in show' doesnt mean he is a good example of his breed-i mean many people award these things on the 'cute' factor iykwim

ISDW

EraseAndRewind wrote: »

see thats exactly what i was thinking hence why i wanted to get him neutered

we asked the vet about getting his pedigree checked and about registering him

he said something about a DNA test?

the owners said there were several people in the area that wanted to use him as a stud for their bitches but tbh i wouldnt know these people from adam hence my reluctance

he has been shown before but not in any major show-he has several cups and trophies but as you said winning 'best in show' doesnt mean he is a good example of his breed-i mean many people award these things on the 'cute' factor iykwim

You wouldn't be able to register him, only his breeder could do that. If he's microchipped, then you could possibly find his breeder, but it would probably be registered to his previous owner, and they would have passed his papers onto you I'm sure if you'd asked for them if they had any. A friend of mine was interested in this dog, so he'll be pleased to hear that he got a great home. He has a young samoyed and is looking for company for him. He works his dog as well, with a scooter and the dog loves it and is thriving with the work.

Well done on taking him in, lots of great advice here, so hopefully he'll settle down with you and become a quiet part of the family:D

andreac

EraseAndRewind wrote: »

see thats exactly what i was thinking hence why i wanted to get him neutered

we asked the vet about getting his pedigree checked and about registering him

he said something about a DNA test?

the owners said there were several people in the area that wanted to use him as a stud for their bitches but tbh i wouldnt know these people from adam hence my reluctance

he has been shown before but not in any major show-he has several cups and trophies but as you said winning 'best in show' doesnt mean he is a good example of his breed-i mean many people award these things on the 'cute' factor iykwim

Ill be totally honest with you, those shows arent IKC shows, probably only local country shows which dont count towards anything.

Only dogs that are registered with the IKC can be shown at proper Championship shows so those shows would only be fun ones.

Yes the shows he would have won those trophies for, would have only been for the "cute factor", not because he is a good example of the breed etc by being judged by a breed specialist which happens at IKC shows.

You cannot get him registered, only the breeder can do that so unless you know who is breeder is you cant register him im afraid.

This dog should def NOT be used for stud as i already said, he is not reg so you dont have a clue of his pedigree so whats to say the bitch you mate him with isnt related to him?? He is far too old to start studding him anyway and as i said, he obv hasnt been health checked either for the breed.

The best thing to do is neuter him.

EraseAndRewind

Thanks for all the tips and advice guys i really appreciate it-i say its a no go on the papers but we have microchipped him and insured him and are looking into getting him nuetered so thanks again;)

ill no doubt have more questions for you in the future:o

Chris_Heilong

That so interesting, I also rescued a Samoyed, I got her from Animal Rescue, and she seemed so spoiled. I gave her 3 hour walks every day, feed her Cooked Chicken and rice and treated her as an indoor dog, But she would just bark everyday not focusing on anything at all, and if you told her 'NO' she would look around the room and attack my other dog or if he was not there she would go for one of the pillows and shake it around in her mouth. We were told she was toilet trainned but even after 2 weeks she was still going to the toilet in the house and rufused to go out to the back garden at all. She was great on the lead and a real person dog but totally wanted all your attention and would bully mine and my mothers dogs. After next door complained about the barking we had to call the rescue and ask them to take her back, she was starting to hurt my other dog.