UFC 121 - Primetime

Zero-Cool

Primetime returns to hype up the event. 1st part airs tonight on Spike, should be a few links around for it tomorrow.

Preview below. Looks like Lesnar is rocking a beard for the fight. He hoping for some extra protection against Velasquez's fists??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M-x7PUj3jU

Edit - Part 1 in the link below:

http://www.aroundtheoctagon.com/?p=6338

Daniel2oo9

:DThis primetime will be absolutely awseome!

LeoGilly

He's such a beast! Will be all over Cain!

MrStuffins

The bears actually makes him look meaner, which i thought impossible!

Mellor

Really looking forward to Tito v Matt.
Didn't like the way Tito openly wanted to matty him during TUF3, will make for interesting comments pre fight

ScareGilly

Hope Hamill wins, really like him.. Tito is a character... I think he's alright though.. Bit of an idiot :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_22WrR8Y5A

:pac::pac::pac:

Zero-Cool

Really don't like Tito. What ever happened to that domestic abuse thing anyway? Anyone know what the odds are like for Lesnar/Cain?

ScareGilly

sheehy83 wrote: »

Really don't like Tito. What ever happened to that domestic abuse thing anyway? Anyone know what the odds are like for Lesnar/Cain?

Lesnar : -170
Velasquez : +150

Around that I think?

Or Brock : 4/7
Cain : 5/4

conor678

Prime time part 1 was interesting. Some interesting clips of the lads training however I've beef with one aspect of it.

At the start the announcer proclaims Cain as a 'knock out artist' which I find a tad rich. Now I know the UFC wanna big up their Latino prospect and I respect that but he's only knocked out Big Nog (an impressive knockout nonetheless). All the rest of his finishes have been by TKO. Just a minor thing.

Brock's still a beast and can't wait for this event!

Zero-Cool

Here is a link to watch (2 vids, parts 1 & 2)

http://www.aroundtheoctagon.com/?p=6338

Zero-Cool

It would be really epic if Cain can win this, would be a lovely mix for the HW div. I really can't see JDS beating Lesnar.

TechnoPool

sheehy83 wrote: »

It would be really epic if Cain can win this, would be a lovely mix for the HW div. I really can't see JDS beating Lesnar.

i dont see him winning it, but if he dosent the HW goes a bit stale with no real contenders bar JDS

Zero-Cool

TechnoPool wrote: »

i dont see him winning it, but if he dosent the HW goes a bit stale with no real contenders bar JDS

I think the opposite. If Lesnar wins, he has no more competition and will continue his reign atop the HW div with no real challenge. What we need is Carwin to get his cardio sorted and come back for another go.

Funny listening to Cain's jitz coach saying he has a bigger arsenal of weapons, better wrestling, standup, jitzu, etc. Will be a really interesting fight anyway, can't wait for it!

PS. Carwin is to return for UFC 125 on new years. Rumoured to be fighting Nelson.

TechnoPool

sheehy83 wrote: »

I think the opposite. If Lesnar wins, he has no more competition and will continue his reign atop the HW div with no real challenge. What we need is Carwin to get his cardio sorted and come back for another go.

Funny listening to Cain's jitz coach saying he has a bigger arsenal of weapons, better wrestling, standup, jitzu, etc. Will be a really interesting fight anyway, can't wait for it!

PS. Carwin is to return for UFC 125 on new years. Rumoured to be fighting Nelson.

eh wasnt that my point? he has no real challange if he beats cain and the HW div goes stale with easy defences for brock

YouSavedMyLife

My money is on Cain. Hes gonna expose Brock in the stand up, like Carwin, but hes not gonna gas in 3 minutes. That being said, if Brock improves / has improved his stand up he could be an unstopable monster in the UFC for some time

Zero-Cool

TechnoPool wrote: »

eh wasnt that my point? he has no real challange if he beats cain and the HW div goes stale with easy defences for brock

Ah sorry man, read it wrong, thought you meant if Cain DOES win it. Apologies man.

Would be interested in knowing if Overeem finishes the K1 final in December, how long is left on his SF contract. Coker said he could have stopped Overeem from fighting in K1 gp as Strikeforce has the primary choice of fight for him but he left him do it. I'd say he is sh*tting it that Dana will come along and just start throwing money at him. I'd love to see Overeem have a go a Lesnar!

Wacker

When I watch Cain fight Kongo, I can't help but think that Lesnar will handle Velasquez's wrestling with little problems, and be able to take his best shots. Then I watch the Nog fight, and I find myself thinking that Lesnar is in trouble. So who knows?

TechnoPool

Wacker wrote: »

When I watch Cain fight Kongo, I can't help but think that Lesnar will handle Velasquez's wrestling with little problems, and be able to take his best shots. Then I watch the Nog fight, and I find myself thinking that Lesnar is in trouble. So who knows?

when the big lads thrown down it can be over in a heart beat, i see this ending early second round or late first for one, large flip of a coin for me, but ill go with brock by GNP

Tones69

Personally i think cain is goin to mangle brock, his hands are a lot better and to be honest carwin put brock in serious trouble in the first but burnt himself out, u can be sure that wont happen cain, obviously could go either way but my mula is goin on cain

Fozzy

conor678 wrote: »

Prime time part 1 was interesting. Some interesting clips of the lads training however I've beef with one aspect of it.

At the start the announcer proclaims Cain as a 'knock out artist' which I find a tad rich. Now I know the UFC wanna big up their Latino prospect and I respect that but he's only knocked out Big Nog (an impressive knockout nonetheless). All the rest of his finishes have been by TKO. Just a minor thing.

You must have lost the head when they claimed Carwin had won all his fights by knockout :pac:

Cain's got the better wrestling. If Brock can't rock Cain then I don't think that he'll be able to take him down

p to the e

sheehy83 wrote: »

Ah sorry man, read it wrong, thought you meant if Cain DOES win it. Apologies man.

Would be interested in knowing if Overeem finishes the K1 final in December, how long is left on his SF contract. Coker said he could have stopped Overeem from fighting in K1 gp as Strikeforce has the primary choice of fight for him but he left him do it. I'd say he is sh*tting it that Dana will come along and just start throwing money at him. I'd love to see Overeem have a go a Lesnar!

I don't know. Overeem might be afraid of the drug tests in UFC:D I can see Dos Santos being the next opponent for Lesnar after Brock demolishes Velasquez and then we wait for Carwin to get his rematch where he sets things straight. As for Mir I think he might be out of the race altogether.

johnny_adidas

ScareGilly wrote: »

.............

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_22WrR8Y5A

the lightweight top 10 at 2:10 was surprising

MrStuffins

johnny_adidas wrote: »

the lightweight top 10 at 2:10 was surprising

It's an old video!

Wacker

Fozzy wrote: »

Cain's got the better wrestling. If Brock can't rock Cain then I don't think that he'll be able to take him down

Cain might take him down, but there is no way he'll keep him down. Cain couldn't keep Kongo down (although he took him down at will), and Lesnar is 30 pounds heavier and an awesome wrestler. Even Randy had serious trouble getting Lesnar down, and when he did, Lesnar was almost straight back up.

YouSavedMyLife

Wacker wrote: »

Cain might take him down, but there is no way he'll keep him down. Cain couldn't keep Kongo down (although he took him down at will), and Lesnar is 30 pounds heavier and an awesome wrestler. Even Randy had serious trouble getting Lesnar down, and when he did, Lesnar was almost straight back up.

I agree with this. Thats why i think Cains camp are gonna tell him to keep this fight standing. Cain would be a fool to try and bring this fight to the ground. Sure if there is a glaring opportunity to take Brock down he should go for it, points for the takedown abit of ground and pound, but he shouldnt push it. If Brock gets a reversal while they are on the ground its goodnight Irene!!! Im officially hyped for this card, looks to be a good night of fights

Mellor

conor678 wrote: »

At the start the announcer proclaims Cain as a 'knock out artist' which I find a tad rich. Now I know the UFC wanna big up their Latino prospect and I respect that but he's only knocked out Big Nog (an impressive knockout nonetheless). All the rest of his finishes have been by TKO. Just a minor thing.

TKO stoppage goes on a fighter's record as a win by knock-out. (this is all UFC, boxing, etc)
Cain is 8-0, 7 by knockout, so calling him a knockout artist is more than acceptable, and in no way a tad rich :rolleyes:

I agree with this. Thats why i think Cains camp are gonna tell him to keep this fight standing. Cain would be a fool to try and bring this fight to the ground. Sure if there is a glaring opportunity to take Brock down he should go for it, points for the takedown abit of ground and pound, but he shouldnt push it. If Brock gets a reversal while they are on the ground its goodnight Irene!!! Im officially hyped for this card, looks to be a good night of fights

that's a terrible reason for a take down.
The fight is 25 minutes long, its very unlikely to go the distance, "points" shouldn't come into his head until the bell goes at the end of the fifth round, the last time a heavyweight title match went to decision was Randy and Silvia at UFC 68

jaykhunter

hey lads, do you know what channel UFC 121 is on live/taped in Ireland? Thanks

Niall0

jaykhunter wrote: »

hey lads, do you know what channel UFC 121 is on live/taped in Ireland? Thanks

ESPN

Zero-Cool

episode 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YEUcRqPFIg