DONT GO TO DIT!!

tennessee time

its just not good, it needs to improve in every area, even the aspects it is supposed to be good at - like architecture are slipping, they will fob you off with excuses and act like things you complain about are not a big deal , but the cumulation of all of these problems make them a big deal, the gym is a joke, lecturers not great, library is a disgrace- no books after the 1980s was a common complaint, facilities are a joke, student bar - ???, student accomodation - ???, sports - grangegorman is terrible, student union - ok at best, no campus feel, no real college experience, 6 locations so a sixth of a real college is all you get,

having said all that i loved it because of my class - the people who go there are brilliant

the most famous f**k up by dit that i have experienced was in final year where the lecturers contacted us mid summer , as in after we had finished final yr and said we had not done a required module ..... our class were spread half way around the world and these clowns send us this email , and then send us a pop quiz in the module to make up for a semester , they then give all of us a blanket 60%, and this went to our final degree... disgraceful, naturally we complained and it has not happened since to my knowledge , but that did not help us

What did you study in DIT?

Bucklesman

Well, I like it.

Sheeps

The only thing wrong with DIT is the administration staff and the fact that the students union is rubbish(granted they did a bit of complaining when the cut backs came about last year which was amusing at best).

DIT does however offer you some of the best lecturers there are at the same time offering you some of the worst. There are some lecturers in DIT who are world known with in their area of specialisation for their research who I am proud to have studied under.

Maniacle

I like it :P

And all my lecturers are gas. They all know exactly what theyre doing and are always so willing to help you out if youve got a problem.

graw

I actually share the same viewpoint as the original poster although perhaps not to the same extent.

Some of the lecturers I had were awful. Like, really bad. They just read slides off and seemed to think that was the way to deliver effective lectures. I remember one time I was sitting in a class, the lecturer was wandering on about only god knows what, there was a guy reading the newspaper, another was listening to his ipod, and two others were sending txts - this was all in full view. The lecturer was so bad and those people only attended the class as class attendance went towards the final grade. When the lecturer was asked questions... she could not answer them.

Don't even get me started on the computers. So slow! Lets move on!

3 hour exams. I like to take my time but that is just insane. :eek: In UCD we have 2 hours max.

Ah here... there are a million things I could go on about and I am sure that many people actually enjoy DIT but before I end the rant... It feels like being in school in DIT! There seems to be an ''us and them'' culture among lecturers and students. In UCD, the lecturers would even buy you a pint at the bar! We're all adults now. I hope. Maybe not in DIT however. :mad: That really irked me. *shivers*

experiMental

I don't have anything to complain against the lecturers.

However, I have to complain against the system. I've lost my temp job, so I can't afford a train ticket. It will be a while when I will get another one. All I can manage is pay for a weekly bus ticket over a period of 10 days. I spend 4 hours a day commuting, as the traffic on the M1 is getting worse every week. Of course there is no way I can be in at 9:00!!! We start lectures at 9:00 every day, and worse still, the ones we get in the morning are only 1 - 2 hour long ones!

Since most of the class is late, DIT should definitely have a rethink as far as the scheduling is concerned. Not everyone can afford on campus accommodation. Or whatever it's called.

Also, we are given a project with a 2 week deadline. Last year we were given 4 weeks to do a similar one. Since we have to use software which always crashes, it just adds to the stress. I'm in my final year, it was a battle for everyone to get this far, and only now the college is trying to screw us over. It's not fair that DIT should start failing people who have already gone through 4 years of college and paid their fees for the final year as well.

Also, some lecturers keep on repeating that if we get a "Pass grade" degree, no single employer will care. It's OK to say it once, but saying it several times over and giving the students an impossible deadlines is just not reasonable.

I think this is an issue that should be raised, as everyone in Bolton Street is complaining about it.

.DarDarBinks

Were all great for moaning but did anyone of you do anything about said problems?

DIT staff are not mind readers

neil_18_

tennessee time wrote: »

6 locations so a sixth of a real college is all you get,

I don't think its a problem, I like being on a small campus and getting to know familiar faces. Thats my opinion though, i know loadsa people would prefer one campus.

Sheeps wrote: »

The only thing wrong with DIT is the administration staff and the fact that the students union is rubbish(granted they did a bit of complaining when the cut backs came about last year which was amusing at best).

DIT does however offer you some of the best lecturers there are at the same time offering you some of the worst. There are some lecturers in DIT who are world known with in their area of specialisation for their research who I am proud to have studied under.

I agree with all of that.

graw wrote: »

3 hour exams. I like to take my time but that is just insane. :eek: In UCD we have 2 hours max.

There seems to be an ''us and them'' culture among lecturers and students. In UCD, the lecturers would even buy you a pint at the bar! We're all adults now. I hope. Maybe not in DIT however. :mad: That really irked me. *shivers*

Why complain about extra time in exams? use it to your advantage.:pac:

Completely disagree with your second point. If you have been to aungier st, there is a staff seating area in the cafe...Lecturers rarely use this area and can always be seen sitting among students and using the SU shop. Lecturers have come over to me and my friends for a chat while we were having lunch.

And another thing, free doctor! Some people dont appreciate it as much but if you need regular injections or prescriptions it is fantastic. Saved myself over €300 using the DIT health service last year.

Sheeps

.DarDarBinks wrote: »

Were all great for moaning but did anyone of you do anything about said problems?

DIT staff are not mind readers

Yes, when I was a student in DIT, my buddies and I bypassed the student union and did do something about the problems we were having. We sorted them out due to our friendly relationship with most of the lecturers and the heads of our department who were able to cut through the red tape bull**** to sort us out. Thanks for asking.

tennessee time

.DarDarBinks wrote: »

Were all great for moaning but did anyone of you do anything about said problems?

DIT staff are not mind readers

see i think thats bull, so a student comes into a college in first year and on top of all the pressures of college, meeting new people, moving away from home, trying to do well in college, pass exams - you want them to solve the problems of the college as well, what the hell are the staff doing??

youre competing with your class to do well, and you expect them to devote time to fixing these problems, when other students are partying or studying, nobody is going to do that cos its a selfish world, you will not benefit proportionally for the effort you put into solving these problems, in my experience if anything it puts you on lecturers and staff radar and not in a good way, youre marked down as a **** stirrer

there were many complaints we made about a member of staff, he had less of a clue about the software he was teaching than we did, nothing was ever done,

what do you want us to do , build a new gym?? new sports facilities?

as regards not having the software we needed the lecturers were told, it is expensive but many of us had to go out and get it ourselves because we needed it,

the incident i mentioned where we got a pop quiz mid summer - not sure what we could have done there, we all complained, but what more could we do, this guy is marking your thesis, you stay on side, if you dont you might suffer and of course lecturers can justify any mark they give you,

Chorcai

I'm kinda happy the college is in differant parts. We plan to do some really crazy art stuff over the next few weeks in Portland Row, last thing we need is some "jock" types etc making fun of us.

mark renton

Chorcai wrote: »

I'm kinda happy the college is in differant parts. We plan to do some really crazy art stuff over the next few weeks in Portland Row, last thing we need is some "jock" types etc making fun of us.

LMAO "Jock types" - sure even us computer science nerds would poke fun

ChopShop

tennessee time wrote: »

lecturers not great, library is a disgrace- no books after the 1980s was a common complaint,

Some of mine were great, as it happens.

Chorcai

john47832 wrote: »

LMAO "Jock types" - sure even us computer science nerds would poke fun

Ah sure you know what I mean :P

darragh16

Administration is ****e because they're on a go-slow due to cut-backs. UCD and Trinity get more funding than any of the other colleges hence why it seems so bad...

Public Executor

I think a blanket generalisation of DIT is unfair. The college has been very good to me, but I can only speak for my own experiences (Kevin St.). There is a great sense of camaraderie (in Maths) even between years. The lecturers are all very approachable and helpful people who know what they're doing. The only complaint I can have about the facilities is there aren't enough of them. More computers and pool tables please. And a bigger shop! Posting this from the canteen of Kevin St, as it happens.

Dafydd Thomas

In relation to the OP, I just started first year architecture and albeit some timetable problems the course seems as if it is run fairly well. It is also being changed to an MArch which is very impressive imho. I'm not too bothered about the small cmapus although I would rather a large one, I imagine I'll end up on grangegorman before I graduate. The only problems I've had so far are the library and security staff who are unnecessarily rude.

Captain_Generic

Dafydd Thomas wrote: »

I imagine I'll end up on grangegorman before I graduate.

Is it a 20 year course?

Dafydd Thomas

Captain_Generic wrote: »

Is it a 20 year course?

I was waiting for someone to say that. You need to be optimistic. Now that it's all planned to go ahead I'll have use of a good library by the time I leave. Thr Bolton st. one is actually very good albeit rude staff.

.DarDarBinks

Overall DIT staff are unhelpful slow cnuts, porters (although a **** job) seem like they couldnt give a fcuk about what was going on until closing time were they try sweep everyone out earlier, same with libray staff, dont even want to deal with the sour faced cnuts anymore (although there are a few that put an effort to help you) SU shop staff are good as they can be as there job is limited. Cleaners are another group of sour faced cnuts, walking seems a chore to them would it kill anybody to smile?

lessismore

This whole thread is based on a bit of a false premise. No one can say don't come to the whole of DIT based on their sole experience for many reasons.

Firstly, there is no such thing as a DIT experience - there is a Bolton St experience, an Aungier St experience and so on, but the reality is that I never needed to go to or talk to a single person in most of the other colleges so I could not possibly judge their facilities and staff.

Furthermore there isn't really a single experience of each college either, there is your course experience, and even your year experience. Staff and processes change constantly, especially where students are vocal about their needs. I know that my experience of the school of Architecture was completely different to what a prospective student will be dealing with.
In my time this saw practically every studio for architecture students improve (sometimes vastly) and saw the way in which administration of individual years and delivery of courses improved also. Making use of accreditation processes and course committee meetings and the students union were instrumental in this, as was just having a quiet chat with someone. Of course students are under pressure but you cannot expect the college to magically know how you want it to be unless you engage with the powers that be.

On the whole us and them thing - that could not be further from my experience. I could not count the times that my tutors have come to student events or out for a drink or just stayed late to discuss a problem with my classmates and I. There are of course some that don't, but bear in mind that people are in different situations and many have equally long commutes as their students and have family to think of.

I would also completely disagree that the standard of education, facilities and graduates in Architecture are in any way decreasing - quite the opposite in my opinion.

As someone who is proud to put DIT on my CV I think that there is nothing more important that I can do than defend my education and improve whatever was wrong for future students not to go around saying that everything I worked so hard for was worthless. The OP should really have said don't come to DIT to do my course at the time I did it and if they really had such strong feelings about it then maybe they should have the balls and wit to put down their complaints in a letter to the college.

yummers

have to say i agree. DIT is a terrible college. i think no matter what college your in. its the same crap from lecturers, admin staff, library staff etc no one cares about students in DIT. At the end of the day all they care about is their job. Id have to say DIT is proberly the worst college in ireland. i did my masters there and it was the biggest mistake i ever made. ive had so much hassle in the last year. the goverment would be better off shuting the whole place down and giving the money is costs to run the place to trinity and ucd cause no doubt they are better colleges

evolutionqy7

tennessee time wrote: »

its just not good, it needs to improve in every area, even the aspects it is supposed to be good at - like architecture are slipping, they will fob you off with excuses and act like things you complain about are not a big deal , but the cumulation of all of these problems make them a big deal, the gym is a joke, lecturers not great, library is a disgrace- no books after the 1980s was a common complaint, facilities are a joke, student bar - ???, student accomodation - ???, sports - grangegorman is terrible, student union - ok at best, no campus feel, no real college experience, 6 locations so a sixth of a real college is all you get,

having said all that i loved it because of my class - the people who go there are brilliant

the most famous f**k up by dit that i have experienced was in final year where the lecturers contacted us mid summer , as in after we had finished final yr and said we had not done a required module ..... our class were spread half way around the world and these clowns send us this email , and then send us a pop quiz in the module to make up for a semester , they then give all of us a blanket 60%, and this went to our final degree... disgraceful, naturally we complained and it has not happened since to my knowledge , but that did not help us

I suggest you contact your class rep or campus covenor pointing out your issues or even so attend the class rep meetings to point out these issues yourself. Ok DIT isn't perfect and i had my issues to doubt its system, but as a Governor Counciler and a Class Rep were working on issues all the time and to make a better student experience, but without feedback we cant do alot

Im sure its not the worst otherwise it wouldn't have 20k+ students in it.

overeager

tennessee time wrote: »

its just not good, it needs to improve in every area, even the aspects it is supposed to be good at - like architecture are slipping, they will fob you off with excuses and act like things you complain about are not a big deal , but the cumulation of all of these problems make them a big deal, the gym is a joke, lecturers not great, library is a disgrace- no books after the 1980s was a common complaint, facilities are a joke, student bar - ???, student accomodation - ???, sports - grangegorman is terrible, student union - ok at best, no campus feel, no real college experience, 6 locations so a sixth of a real college is all you get,

Of course its terrible... Its a building site!!!!

And on the length of exams... try 5 hr finals

TBH i agree with most of ur rant OP, some pathetic excuses for lecturers there and some of the content in my course woeful.

An whats the craic with progression?? If you fail one module you'l have to spend a full year re-taking only that module... how flippin crap is that?
I did erasmus, failed half my modules and walked into the next year while others had to effectively take a year out, no consistency there at all

"The city is our campus" I think they stole that line from the Roma beggers

FewFew

.DarDarBinks wrote: »

Were all great for moaning but did anyone of you do anything about said problems?

DIT staff are not mind readers

This is the answer that always pops up in these threads and always annoys me the most, though the usual flavour is "don't complain about the students union unless you get involved". DIT is mostly like a brick wall of ignorance when it comes to changing how lecturers do things, or how the system works. In first year I had a lecturer who was so bad we all signed a petition and gave it into our school head. Now, the lecturer wasn't boring, he was on the point of being senile, wasn't covering any of the course content and wasn't making any sense. What did the school head do... have a chuckle about it with the lecturer, saying we were complaining. So the lecturer comes in, laughs at us for complaining and says "you want notes, here you are" and gave us some photocopied A4 sheets with 6 lines written on them in marker.
That was only one time we were faced with a bad lecturer, there were many others and nobody took any criticism seriously.
Those Q6 forms are summarized by the lecturer... how idiotic is that?! Nobody is going to summarize that they're a bad lecturer.

Having said that I've had some absolutely fantastic lecturers in DIT, it's just a very stubborn entity when it comes to change.

Bubs99

I went to DIT in 2003 after i did a PLC course and I was looking forward to it, the college student experience...canteen, activities, lectures, facilities etc. but I was based in Mountjoy Square which was miles away from the main facilities, the canteen closed down the year we began.
Our lecturers treated us like school pupils, one of them even had the cheek to judge us all on what we wore one day and told us what we should wear instead...to "hide" our pot bellies etc. The cheek!!!
It was two years of hell apart from meeting lovely people in class.
DIT needs to refresh and sort itself out ASAP!

Sitec

I think this thread is a load of sh!t. I studied in DIT in 2008 when i was in FAS and i have to say the quality of the staff and training is amazing.

I lost my job in January of this year, made one phone call to a former tutor and had an interview for a honours degree 2 weeks later. Did the interview and DIT accepted me.

Started the degree in September and every lecturer I have is highly skilled in their field. I got advanced entry and entered into 2nd year. The lecturers gave me notes and got me up to speed with what i missed in the 1st year.:)

Im based in Bolton Street and can only comment on that Campus. The more work you put in to socialise with people the more fun you have. Simple as that. The same can be said about any college.

JohnSmithKelly

Who the f**k is censoring this forum.

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And to mister Fu***ng deletor. if you are going to delete critical posts then put that up on your rules page and stop slinking around in the dark like all the other parasites.

Bucklesman

That's a bit harsh now, I have to say.

Sitec

JohnSmithKelly wrote: »

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And to mister Fu***ng deletor. if you are going to delete critical posts then put that up on your rules page and stop slinking around in the dark like all the other parasites.

Grow up, if you had a bad experience by all means post it but talking ****e like that only makes you look like the one with the problem. Not DIT.