Is this site dodgy....

Cableguy

Hi there,

This caught my eye in the Goole adds while in gmail an I thought to myself it cant be that cheap!!!

Its a EOS 5D Mark II with 24-105mm Lens Kit for €2099 an can be seen here

Now Im not advertising Im thinking of buying but I am wondering if this site is dodgy as it retails @ €2826 else where!

ikeano29

its a scam i would think.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1018&message=36300192&changemode=1

zerohamster

I cant vouch for its legitimacy but at the bottom of the page they have "shipping & renurns"
plus it seems a little odd that the Leica M9 is their 3rd best seller and people who bought it also bought 1Ds MkIIIs and Leica X1s.
Looks dodgy to me and as the saying goes "if its too good to be true, it probably isnt"

Edit: after reading the Dpreview's thread it is a scam according to them so beware

Cableguy

Cheers all, Ill be keeping my hard earned dosh in me pocket for the time being.

It amazes me how this advert is advertised through Google adverts....surely Google is liable for false advertising! One could easily think this was legit!

ayup

No

Boards.ie is fine ! !

forza_milo

Yes it is a scam. Do a google search on "shootmarket"; there are plenty of threads about it on other forms. Company does not exist and notwithstanding UK postal address the site is maintained from a server in Lithuania.

If you attempt to pay for your purchase through the checkout on website it will inform you of a punitive (17.5%, I think) handling charge for credit card transactions. It will then invite you to transfer the money at the original price by bank transfer to their account in order to avoid such handling charges. Once money has been transferred from your bank account to theirs it is very difficult to retrieve. Further the purchaser does not have the distance selling protection afforded by credit card transactions.

Btw, in case you hadn't guessed by now they won't post you a 5d mkII either.

Avoid.

sNarah

As a general rule - when it feels dodge is usually is. When it's a lot cheaper then it should, it's a no-go.

stick-dan

yes the website is based in Lithuania as previously stated, they own a small range of addresses ( synominous with spammers techniques) and if you'd like to call them and ask for their info here's the real peoples behind the website numbers..Good luck gettin through.

inetnum: 77.79.12.0 - 77.79.12.255
netname: LT-ALEJA
org: ORG-UIA2-RIPE
descr: Webhosting, collocation services
country: LT
admin-c: RL3425-RIPE
tech-c: MS16708-RIPE
status: ASSIGNED PA
mnt-by: SPLIUS-MNT
source: RIPE # Filtered

organisation: ORG-UIA2-RIPE
org-name: UAB Duomenu Centras
org-type: OTHER
address: Tilzes 74
address: LT-78140 Siauliai
address: Lithuania
e-mail: abuse@aleja.lt
mnt-ref: SPLIUS-MNT
mnt-by: SPLIUS-MNT
source: RIPE # Filtered

person: Remigijus Laurutis
address: Tilzes 74-320
address: LT-76247 Siauliai
address: Lithuania
phone: +37041503500
nic-hdl: RL3425-RIPE
e-mail: abuse@aleja.lt
mnt-by: SPLIUS-MNT
source: RIPE # Filtered

person: Martynas Simkevicius
address: Tilzes 74-320
address: LT-76247 Siauliai
address: Lithuania
phone: +37041503503
nic-hdl: MS16708-RIPE
e-mail: abuse@aleja.lt
mnt-by: SPLIUS-MNT
source: RIPE # Filtered

% Information related to '77.79.0.0/18AS25406'

route: 77.79.0.0/18
descr: SPLIUS-NET
origin: AS25406
mnt-by: SPLIUS-MNT
source: RIPE # Filtered

Oh yeah avoid.. for a couple hundred extra euro in your pocket?? its not worth the hassle

tricky D

There's a load of these scams operating from that St John's St, London address

hbr

Cableguy wrote: »

Hi there,

This caught my eye in the Goole adds while in gmail an I thought to myself it cant be that cheap!!!
!

whois shootmarket.com
Domain Name: shootmarket.com
Expiry Date: 21-Aug-2011
Creation Date: 21-Aug-2010

traceroute www.shootmarket.com
...........hst-28.duomenucentras.lt

The server seems to be in Lithuania or Latvia.

The "About Us" page is good for a laugh.

thinktwice

hbr wrote: »

whois shootmarket.com
Domain Name: shootmarket.com
Expiry Date: 21-Aug-2011
Creation Date: 21-Aug-2010

traceroute www.shootmarket.com
...........hst-28.duomenucentras.lt

The server seems to be in Lithuania or Latvia.

The "About Us" page is good for a laugh.

Hi guys,

Yep, it's dodgy looking. I nearly got caught about a yr and half ago, bought a 50mm 1.2 lens (first time buying gear online) and heard nothing at all back. After a day or two I was freaking out as it was a grand! I rang and rang the numbers. It was through paypal and after contacting them (paypal) to get my money back, I eventually received an email from the 'company' at about 2am in the morning was the time on it!! It was supposed to be from the North. Luckily I have a friend who knows Belfast v well and went to college near where their location was and she told me it was a block of derelict flats. My dad became detective and looked them up through that business registration listing thing and what came up was frightening.They had set up so many times all over the place, here and in the UK and who knows where else! I googled them and look what I found and it's just for starters http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1018&message=36263801 :eek:

Anyway long story short, 'they' guaranteed I'd receive my lens by email but I was having none of it. Why didn't they ring me if they were ligit?? If in doubt stay with who you trust. It's a bit more money but at least you have peace of mind. Oh I eventually got my money back and bought off a 'proper' company, and I'm still very happy with my lens ...phew!