Another Garda firearm gone missing.

patbundy

seen in todays eximiner(08/10/10)

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/probe-as-gun-and-ammunition-go-missing-from-garda-station-132944.html

CJhaughey

According to the Examiner a .38 S&W and 60 rds of ammunition has gone missing from a Garda station.
If this is used in a crime would it also be linked to licensed owners like the last case?

bunny shooter

If it wasn't so serious it would be funny :rolleyes:

Sparks

Merging threads...

rrpc

According to RTE news this morning it was a shotgun

tac foley

rrpc wrote: »

According to RTE news this morning it was a shotgun

Ah, with the level of expertise we commonly encounter when firearms are being reported in the press it could be anything from a seven-barrelled flintlcock to a multi-dimensional phaser.

Or even a 38cal S&W shotgun revolver gun assault-pistol bullet sniper-gun bullet head shooter.

Long time since the AGS had .38cal revolvers, surely?

tac

sfakiaman

tac foley wrote: »

Long time since the AGS had .38cal revolvers, surely?tac

Knowing the Guards it could have been missing for years and no one noticed.

Rosahane

Just anticipating the Garda press release

..."this firearm is the favourite weapon of criminals"

Rew

tac foley wrote: »

Ah, with the level of expertise we commonly encounter when firearms are being reported in the press it could be anything from a seven-barrelled flintlcock to a multi-dimensional phaser.

Or even a 38cal S&W shotgun revolver gun assault-pistol bullet sniper-gun bullet head shooter.

Long time since the AGS had .38cal revolvers, surely?

tac

The Sig P226 is filtering its way down though the different units ERU, NSU, RSU etc. A small station in Tipp may not see a Sig for years yet!! Traing cources on new firearm need to be run as well slowing it up. As well as that some detectives prefer the .38.

BryanL

tac foley wrote: »

Or even a 38cal S&W shotgun revolver gun assault-pistol bullet sniper-gun bullet head shooter.

tac

and Black!

johngalway

Obviously it wasn't one of the new Glock semi-automatic revolver shotguns then? God help us when the meeja find out about them yokes.

CJhaughey

johngalway wrote: »

Obviously it wasn't one of the new Glock semi-automatic revolver shotguns then? God help us when the meeja find out about them yokes.

It isn't a Glock or Semi-auto but there
are revolver shotguns...

johngalway

CJhaughey wrote: »

It isn't a Glock or Semi-auto but there
are revolver shotguns...

Yeah, seen shotguns online before with a cylinder.

Must get back to you again later about those last few PM's! Got distracted :rolleyes:

tac foley

BryanL wrote: »

and Black!

Blast. I knew I'd missed out something important.

Better yet - 'tactical' black.

tac

fish slapped

tac foley wrote: »

Blast. I knew I'd missed out something important.

Better yet - 'tactical' black.

tac

with lazer sights and explosive ballistic tip ammo :eek::eek::eek:

Sparks

Don't forget your lights and levels and NV scopes!

fish slapped

Garda firearms experts have released a photo of the missing "WEAPON":


:D

Grizzly 45

Between that and another EX Gardas claim for 25K in the high court while slipping on the Garda firearms range up the mountains somwhere on a wet railway sleeper and breaking a UZI SMG by falling on it!:eek::eek::eek::eek:[OI Veh! some shmuck was asleep on the production line that day!!]
Yet corageously continuing his shooting course with his revolver and scoring 95% at 25 yards.:eek::eek::rolleyes:.His case was dismissed, and the other lot going off to a print copy shop and having the extremly confidential file nicked !!
What are they like these days?????

patbundy

new update :rolleyes:

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/1008/tipperary.html

some sloppy security

Traumadoc

Looks like it was found ( maybe it fell behind a desk?).
http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/1008/tipperary.html

Great crime solving skills.

patbundy

or awastepaper basket :eek:

tac foley

'The .38 Calibre Smith & Wesson and ammunition was discovered this morning in another secure insecure area in the station.'

Fixed it for yez.

tac

Rovi

Here's the other incident referred to above (as supplied to the mods by a 'concerned citizen' of this forum:
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/1006/1224280471183.html

None of this stuff is strictly anything much to do with Sport Shooting/Shooting Sports, apart from perhaps positing the theoretical question of what would happen to any of us 'non-professionals' if we were to handle our firearms or their storage in a similar manner.
It may also shed some light on the 'OMG!' attitude taken by some Gardai to our possession of firearms, if their only previous/regular exposure to firearms is their colleagues occasional 'little adventures' as noted in this thread. :rolleyes:

Grizzly 45

Plus one Rovi.
Maybe we should put together a sticky or somthing like Press clippings here over the time span since Nov 2008 of "Professionally trained police force Vs mere civillians gun accidents,death[accidental or otherwise] or loss thru negligence."Poll.
Could make for intresting reading!:rolleyes::(

homerhop

A certain garda main station not too far from me had 2 members walking along the corridier one evening talking about cups of tea or what ever they do while pottering about happened to be stopped by their sgt and told you and you are going on a firearms course. The station has an annual budget to spend and the course had to be done by somoene. Shipped off up the north west for a couple of days to learn how to use the new firearms that were eventually going to pass down along to the stations.
First days training involved being handed 2 guns, there is your target here is a couple of boxes of ammo off ya go lads. All in all the most they got was about half an hours official training on the first day. The second day seemed to consist of the same routine, arrived given ammo and let off to their own devices. The same 2 fellas arrived back in the station having "compleated" a course in firearms have stated quiet clearly that the probability of them ever using the guns they got to "train" on was slim to zero and the fact that they happened to be the first 2 gob****es that the sgt bumped into was the only reason they were picked.

Grizzly 45

Ah! The old two voulenteers needed ..you and you.:D
If thats true,thats VERY scarey!!:eek::eek:.Considering a range got some awful bother about doing somthing like this with two SB lads a few years ago..

fish slapped

Well, I don't want to stir it all up again, as it was well covered in a previous thread, but when a "garda sniper" can't account for all rounds fired at a distance of 50 to 80 meters, then the depth of training shows through. :mad::mad:

johngalway

I wonder do these incidents of, shall we call it, "misplacing" firearms have anything to do with how people value things they get for nothing?

I spent a lot of money on my firearms, and I'm fairly sure I'll never "misplace" any of them.

If the armed Gardai had to leave in a deposit for a firearm at the start of a shift, collect it on return of the firearm, I wonder how many would "misplace" them then?

fish slapped

Don't know about that JG just found my AI with S&B scope down the side of the couch beside the TV remote

mcgarrett

homerhop wrote: »

A certain garda main station not too far from me had 2 members walking along the corridier one evening talking about cups of tea or what ever they do while pottering about happened to be stopped by their sgt and told you and you are going on a firearms course. The station has an annual budget to spend and the course had to be done by somoene. Shipped off up the north west for a couple of days to learn how to use the new firearms that were eventually going to pass down along to the stations.
First days training involved being handed 2 guns, there is your target here is a couple of boxes of ammo off ya go lads. All in all the most they got was about half an hours official training on the first day. The second day seemed to consist of the same routine, arrived given ammo and let off to their own devices. The same 2 fellas arrived back in the station having "compleated" a course in firearms have stated quiet clearly that the probability of them ever using the guns they got to "train" on was slim to zero and the fact that they happened to be the first 2 gob****es that the sgt bumped into was the only reason they were picked.

And you believe that :rolleyes:

johngalway

fish slapped wrote: »

Don't know about that JG just found my AI with S&B scope down the side of the couch beside the TV remote

Which did you change channels with though? That's what I wanna know