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    #692
    marclt
    Registered Users Posts: 847 ✭✭✭marclt


    Mt. Leinster stayed on throughout.


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    #693
    Mr. Rabbit
    Registered Users Posts: 778 ✭✭✭Mr. Rabbit


    The Cush wrote: »
    Mullaghanish went off-air here tonight on the dot of midnight, is this happening anywhere else?

    Edit: returned at 00:23

    Further edit: off again at 00:53 and back at 00:55, must be some maintenance work going on there.

    Probably in preparation for the launch of Mux II next Monday, I would imagine.


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    #694
    jimbo2007
    Registered Users Posts: 121 ✭✭jimbo2007


    Hello

    Can anyone help -

    On Saiview transmitters on what is currently Mux 1, what channels do you get?

    Is it just

    RTE1
    RTE2
    RTE2 HD
    RTE News Now
    RTE Junior
    TV3
    TG4
    3e

    Can someone please say what is currently on mux 1 and 2 (if 2 is on test), and please post the new full line-up and what mux has what channels after the changes tomorrow?

    If it has been posed elsewhere, please advise.

    Thanks.


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    #695
    The Cush
    Registered Users Posts: 15,548 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    jimbo2007 wrote: »
    On Saiview transmitters on what is currently Mux 1, what channels do you get?

    Is it just

    RTE1
    RTE2
    RTE2 HD
    RTE News Now
    RTE Junior
    TV3
    TG4
    3e

    Can someone please say what is currently on mux 1 and 2 (if 2 is on test), and please post the new full line-up and what mux has what channels after the changes tomorrow?

    We don't know what is actually happening tomorrow other than a few Mux1 frequency changes at 5 small relays. No official announcement regarding Mux 2 or any channels changes, lots of discussion/speculation in the thread - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056216183

    Multiplex 1
    LCN
    |
    Channel
    |
    01|RTE One|SD
    02|RTÉ Two|HD
    03|TV3|SD
    04|TG4|SD
    05|3e|SD
    06|RTÉ News Now|SD
    07|RTÉjr*|SD
    08|RTÉ One +1*|SD
    200|RTÉ Radio 1|
    201|RTÉ Radio 1 Extra|
    202|RTÉ 2FM|
    203|RTÉ Lyric FM|
    204|RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta|
    205|RTÉ Pulse|
    206|RTÉ 2XM|
    207|(not used**)|
    208|RTÉ Gold|
    209|RTÉ Junior/RTÉ Chill|
    * Timeshare (RTÉjr 0700-1845 approx / RTÉ One +1 1900-0100/0200 approx)
    ** previously RTÉ Choice

    Multiplex 2 (Testcards)
    LCN
    |
    Channel
    |
    11|(no channel name)|HD
    12|(no channel name)|HD
    13|(no channel name)|SD - RTÉ Lyric FM audio
    14|(no channel name)|HD
    15|(no channel name)|SD - RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta audio
    16|(not used)|
    17|(no channel name)|SD
    18|(no channel name)|SD
    211-212|(no radio channel names)|no audio
    213|(no radio channel name)|RTÉ Lyric FM audio
    214|(no radio channel name)|RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta audio
    215-217|(no radio channel names)|no audio
    218-219|(no radio channel name)|RTÉ Gold audio
    220|(no radio channel name)|no audio


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    #696
    Mr. Rabbit
    Registered Users Posts: 778 ✭✭✭Mr. Rabbit


    We don't know what is actually happening tomorrow

    Yep, tomorrow could just be permanent test cards and nothing more.


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    #697
    SPAWKER
    Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭SPAWKER


    Is anyone else missing RTE1 from Ch 54 from Clermont Cairn ?


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    #698
    zg3409
    Registered Users Posts: 6,739 ✭✭✭zg3409


    SPAWKER wrote: »
    Is anyone else missing RTE1 from Ch 54 from Clermont Cairn ?

    Changes seem to be happening today all over the country. A re-scan may bring in the new HD version of RTE1, but it may be after 3pm before all the changes are in place. If a rescan does not solve the problem try again this evening. You may end up with a HD version of RTE1 as channel number one and a standard resolution version as channel 11, depending if your TV/box is 100% Saorview compatable.


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    #699
    SPAWKER
    Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭SPAWKER


    zg3409 wrote: »
    Changes seem to be happening today all over the country. A re-scan may bring in the new HD version of RTE1, but it may be after 3pm before all the changes are in place. If a rescan does not solve the problem try again this evening. You may end up with a HD version of RTE1 as channel number one and a standard resolution version as channel 11, depending if your TV/box is 100% Saorview compatable.

    Did a rescan to no avail, all channels except RTE1.


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    #700
    The Cush
    Registered Users Posts: 15,548 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    SPAWKER wrote: »
    Did a rescan to no avail, all channels except RTE1.

    Are you picking up RTÉjr and RTÉ1 +1?


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    #701
    marclt
    Registered Users Posts: 847 ✭✭✭marclt


    I rescanned and RTE1 SD was showing a blank screen. Is the simulcast happening in other areas?


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    #702
    SPAWKER
    Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭SPAWKER


    The Cush wrote: »
    Are you picking up RTÉjr and RTÉ1 +1?

    Just noticed that RTE1 has moved to Ch11 and shifted UTV And 5 later is now showing where RTE1 was. Its also saying on RTE1 that a rescan is required.


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    #703
    The Cush
    Registered Users Posts: 15,548 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    marclt wrote: »
    I rescanned and RTE1 SD was showing a blank screen. Is the simulcast happening in other areas?

    Yes.

    Saorview Multiplexes this morning

    Multiplex 1
    LCN
    |
    Channel
    |
    11|no channel name (RTÉ 1 simulcast)|SD
    02|RTÉ Two|HD
    03|TV3|SD
    04|TG4|SD
    05|3e|SD
    06|RTÉ News Now|SD
    17|no channel name (RTÉjr simulcast)|SD
    18|no channel name (RTÉ1 +1 simulcast)|SD
    200|RTÉ Radio 1|
    201|RTÉ Radio 1 Extra|
    202|RTÉ 2FM|
    203|RTÉ Lyric FM|
    204|RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta|
    205|RTÉ Pulse|
    206|RTÉ 2XM|
    207|(not used**)|
    208|RTÉ Gold|
    209|RTÉ Junior/RTÉ Chill|
    ** previously RTÉ Choice

    Multiplex 2
    LCN
    |
    Channel
    |
    01|RTÉ One|HD
    12|(no channel name***)|HD
    13|(no channel name/testcard)|SD - RTÉ Lyric FM audio
    14|(no channel name***)|HD
    15|(no channel name/testcard)|SD - RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta audio
    16|(not used)|
    07|RTÉjr*|SD
    08|RTÉ One +1*|SD
    211-212|(no radio channel names)|no audio
    213|(no radio channel name)|RTÉ Lyric FM audio
    214|(no radio channel name)|RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta audio
    215-217|(no radio channel names)|no audio
    218-219|(no radio channel name)|RTÉ Gold audio
    220|(no radio channel name)|no audio

    ***No HD testcards on LCNs 12 and 14 this morning
    * RTÉjr 0700-1845 approx / RTÉ One +1 1900-0100/0200 approx. Not timesharing on Mux2, static on-air caption on RTÉ1 +1 "This channel is currently off air"


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    #704
    jimbo2007
    Registered Users Posts: 121 ✭✭jimbo2007


    The Cush wrote: »
    Yes.

    Saorview Multiplexes this morning

    Multiplex 1
    LCN
    |
    Channel
    |
    11|no channel name (RTÉ 1 simulcast)|SD
    02|RTÉ Two|HD
    03|TV3|SD
    04|TG4|SD
    05|3e|SD
    06|RTÉ News Now|SD
    17|no channel name (RTÉjr simulcast)|SD
    18|no channel name (RTÉ1 +1 simulcast)|SD
    200|RTÉ Radio 1|
    201|RTÉ Radio 1 Extra|
    202|RTÉ 2FM|
    203|RTÉ Lyric FM|
    204|RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta|
    205|RTÉ Pulse|
    206|RTÉ 2XM|
    207|(not used**)|
    208|RTÉ Gold|
    209|RTÉ Junior/RTÉ Chill|
    ** previously RTÉ Choice

    Multiplex 2
    LCN
    |
    Channel
    |
    01|RTÉ One|HD
    12|(no channel name***)|HD
    13|(no channel name/testcard)|SD - RTÉ Lyric FM audio
    14|(no channel name***)|HD
    15|(no channel name/testcard)|SD - RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta audio
    16|(not used)|
    07|RTÉjr*|SD
    08|RTÉ One +1*|SD
    211-212|(no radio channel names)|no audio
    213|(no radio channel name)|RTÉ Lyric FM audio
    214|(no radio channel name)|RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta audio
    215-217|(no radio channel names)|no audio
    218-219|(no radio channel name)|RTÉ Gold audio
    220|(no radio channel name)|no audio

    ***No HD testcards on LCNs 12 and 14 this morning
    * RTÉjr 0700-1845 approx / RTÉ One +1 1900-0100/0200 approx. Not timesharing on Mux2, static on-air caption on RTÉ1 +1 "This channel is currently off air"

    If they are now separate, it may be that RTE1+1 will expand. I don't suppose anything has been said of that though?


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    #705
    The Cush
    Registered Users Posts: 15,548 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    jimbo2007 wrote: »
    If they are now separate, it may be that RTE1+1 will expand. I don't suppose anything has been said of that though?

    Dept of Communications approval required for any changes to the PSB channels as per the Broacasting Act, the extra RTÉ channels are up for review by mid 2014.


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    #706
    chasm
    Registered Users Posts: 2,083 ✭✭✭chasm


    Since doing the rescan Channel 1 (RTE1 HD) and Channel 7 (RTE jr) are both unwatchable, freezing and jittery. I can watch both on channels 11 and 17, so temporarily it's OK! Channels 11, 17 and 18 all still show "rescan required" in the EPG, even though a rescan has been done?
    Also is there any reason why channel 18 initially shows as "data service" on my tv before the rte one+1 logo appears or is it just a quirk of my TV? (It appeared as data channel during the scan also as opposed to digital channel or radio)


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    #707
    The Cush
    Registered Users Posts: 15,548 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    chasm wrote: »
    Also is there any reason why channel 18 initially shows as "data service" on my tv before the rte one+1 logo appears or is it just a quirk of my TV? (It appeared as data channel during the scan also as opposed to digital channel or radio)

    When either RTÉ1 +1 or RTÉjr are off-air an MHEG-5 caption is generated in the receiver and displayed on screen, that's what you're seeing. MHEG-5 is the piece of software that is used to display RTÉ Aertel also.
    chasm wrote: »
    Since doing the rescan Channel 1 (RTE1 HD) and Channel 7 (RTE jr) are both unwatchable, freezing and jittery. I can watch both on channels 11 and 17, so temporarily it's OK! Channels 11, 17 and 18 all still show "rescan required" in the EPG, even though a rescan has been done?

    Could be signal reception problem. What type of aerial are you using?
    Do you know which transmitter you're receiving the Saorview signal from?
    Can you identify the frequency or UHF channel no.?
    Which transmitter does Saorview recommend for your area - http://www.saorview.ie/what-is-saorview/make-the-switch/coverage-map/


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    #708
    DeepBlue
    Registered Users Posts: 3,673 ✭✭✭DeepBlue


    RTE1 HD which is the only new channel I'm interested in at the moment is also unwatchable for me. Signal strength seems to be jumping from 80 to 10 percent constantly accompanied by constant picture breakup.

    I'm on the Kilkeaveragh transmitter, have line of sight and use rabbit ears antenna for reception. All the previous channels are fine including RTE2 HD.


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    #709
    The Cush
    Registered Users Posts: 15,548 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    DeepBlue wrote: »
    I'm on the Kilkeaveragh transmitter, have line of sight and use rabbit ears antenna for reception. All the previous channels are fine including RTE2 HD.

    Rabbit ears aerials are designed for VHF reception.

    RTÉ1 HD is on a new UHF frequency so that rabbit ears aerial may be inadequate for reception of that frequency. Something like this would be more suitable - http://cpc.farnell.com/mercury/sto2/set-top-aerial-olympik-2/dp/AP00025 with the director bars orientated vertical


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    #710
    chasm
    Registered Users Posts: 2,083 ✭✭✭chasm


    The Cush wrote: »
    When either RTÉ1 +1 or RTÉjr are off-air an MHEG-5 caption is generated in the receiver and displayed on screen, that's what you're seeing. MHEG-5 is the piece of software that is used to display RTÉ Aertel also.



    Could be signal reception problem. What type of aerial are you using?
    Do you know which transmitter you're receiving the Saorview signal from?
    Can you identify the frequency or UHF channel no.?
    Which transmitter does Saorview recommend for your area - http://www.saorview.ie/what-is-saorview/make-the-switch/coverage-map/

    Thanks, Just had a look at the signal strength etc :eek: My aerial is in the loft, have always received a good reception from it until now, well i still have a good reception on the other channels even though signal strength is low.

    I will have to get someone to go up into the loft and see if we can improve on the signal.

    Cairn Hill is my recommended transmitter - afaik that is the one i am using.
    RTE1 HD freq:658000 KHz.


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    #711
    The Cush
    Registered Users Posts: 15,548 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    chasm wrote: »
    I will have to get someone to go up into the loft and see if we can improve on the signal.

    Cairn Hill is my recommended transmitter - afaik that is the one i am using.
    RTE1 HD freq:658000 KHz.

    What type of aerial are you using, a standard contract or grid?

    If it's a contract it may have a coloured bung at the end of the aerial or coloured tape which identifies its group. Clermont Carn Cairn Hill is Group B / yellow bung.


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    #712
    Ronnie Raygun
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,351 ✭✭✭Ronnie Raygun


    chasm wrote: »
    My aerial is in the loft, have always received a good reception from it until now

    Good reception? So trouble-free at least 99% of the time?

    I'd wager it's actually just on the borderline & you need to take your aerial out of the loft & install it outside.


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    #713
    chasm
    Registered Users Posts: 2,083 ✭✭✭chasm


    Ronnie Raygun wrote: »
    Good reception? So trouble-free at least 99% of the time?

    I'd wager it's actually just on the borderline & you need to take your aerial out of the loft & install it outside.

    Yes, it has been trouble free 99% of the time. My house is on top of a hill and the aerial has been fine in the loft till now. I only have a portable aerial in my bedroom( like the one in the picture The Cush posted) and the channels were OK on that too, although RTE1 HD, despite picking up 100% signal is getting a couple of glitches sinces i rescanned, but nothing near like my main tv is getting. Someone was up in my loft a couple of weeks ago so i don't know whether the aerial may have been knocked or not but i will get someone to take a look for me during the week.


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    #714
    Mr Cumulonimbus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Mr Cumulonimbus


    The Cush wrote: »
    What type of aerial are you using, a standard contract or grid?

    If it's a contract it may have a coloured bung at the end of the aerial or coloured tape which identifies its group. Clermont Carn is Group B / yellow bung.

    I'd say you meant Cairn Hill TC. Mux 1 on ch 47 (682 Mhz) and mux 2 on 44 (658 Mhz).


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    #715
    chasm
    Registered Users Posts: 2,083 ✭✭✭chasm


    The Cush wrote: »
    What type of aerial are you using, a standard contract or grid?

    If it's a contract it may have a coloured bung at the end of the aerial or coloured tape which identifies its group. Clermont Carn is Group B / yellow bung.

    I think it is sort of like the contract type, not exactly the same though, it is definitely not the other type though, that i am sure of. Sorry i'm not giving much info for you to go on but i haven't been up in the loft in a long time. What group is Cairn hill? Or where could i find out what group it is?

    As i said, i will get someone to go up and take a look so i know what i'm dealing with - obviously knowing the type of aerial i have would be helpful for a start lol Thanks anyways


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    #716
    Mr Cumulonimbus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Mr Cumulonimbus


    chasm wrote: »
    What group is Cairn hill? Or where could i find out what group it is?

    Cairn Hill is Group B using chs 47 & 44.


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    #717
    event
    Registered Users Posts: 16,050 ✭✭✭✭event


    Guys

    Did a rescan today on the TV as rte 1 was no longer showing. It completed and picked up UTV on the channel I was on. Changed channel and what came up is:

    Load MHEG5

    When this happens, the tv stops responding. NO button on the remote or TV works, I have to turn it off on the wall and back on, then same thing.
    The tv is one wiht a saorview receiver built in.

    This happen to anyone else or anyone know what to do?
    Can get the option to rescan as, as said, its just not responding.

    Not sure which receiver im on but im located in mid-north Louth, could always get the Irish channels, sometimes get a few of he english


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    #718
    Mr Cumulonimbus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Mr Cumulonimbus


    event wrote: »
    Guys

    Did a rescan today on the TV as rte 1 was no longer showing. It completed and picked up UTV on the channel I was on. Changed channel and what came up is:

    Load MHEG5

    When this happens, the tv stops responding. NO button on the remote or TV works, I have to turn it off on the wall and back on, then same thing.
    The tv is one wiht a saorview receiver built in.

    This happen to anyone else or anyone know what to do?
    Can get the option to rescan as, as said, its just not responding.

    Not sure which receiver im on but im located in mid-north Louth, could always get the Irish channels, sometimes get a few of he english

    Possibly try a manual scan. Frequencies for Clermont Carn (North Louth) are ch 52 (722 Mhz) and 56 (754 Mhz). RTE1 HD, RTEjr and RTE 1+1 are on 56. Does your aerial point N or NE? If so, CC would be your transmitter.


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    #719
    The Cush
    Registered Users Posts: 15,548 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    chasm wrote: »
    What group is Cairn hill? Or where could i find out what group it is?

    http://www.2rn.ie/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/2RN-DTT-Television-Transmission-Network-Oct-2013.pdf
    http://coverage.rtenl.ie/


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    #720
    event
    Registered Users Posts: 16,050 ✭✭✭✭event


    Mr Cumulonimbus wrote: »
    Possibly try a manual scan. Frequencies for Clermont Carn (North Louth) are ch 52 (722 Mhz) and 56 (754 Mhz). RTE1 HD, RTEjr and RTE 1+1 are on 56.

    It wont allow me to do anything though. That message just stays on screen. Once it comes up, it doesnt respond to the remote or any buttons on the tv itself


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    #721
    Mr Cumulonimbus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Mr Cumulonimbus


    event wrote: »
    It wont allow me to do anything though. That message just stays on screen. Once it comes up, it doesnt respond to the remote or any buttons on the tv itself

    Odd. What's the make and model number of the TV?


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