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mary harney to use public health service

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  • #52
    flutered
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,713 ✭✭✭flutered


    oh yes, in at the back of the regional, is parked most days, a forty foot trailer/container, part of the writing on the side of it proclaimes that it is a mobile operating theatre, ffs we now have third world medical facilitys in ireland, plus the first place to benefit from this is limerick, now 99er lets hear you defend this, plus it was announced that cork has a new private hospital, yes our elected repesentatives can be proud.


  • #53
    ninty9er
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,366 ✭✭✭ninty9er


    stanislaw wrote: »
    Firstly, I agree with you that there is always room for improvement even in a good system.
    We dont have a good system, from my own experiences i have seen this, and it is a disgrace.

    Identifiying ways in which a system can be improved ??
    Do we not employ people for this task.
    Oh yes, that is why we have a minister for health,
    who controls the department of health and the HSE.
    these are the people who have the information and the statistics on the entire health service.

    If you want ideas and solutions on how to improve the hse from me, Il gladly take the job and devote my time to find improvement. Im sure that many people (inc. me) would be confident of not doing any worse than what we have already.


    My call for our government and senior civil servants to use the same hospital services as provided to the regular citizen is still very valid and I think it should be manditory for them.

    I neither have the time nor inclination to argue with those who deal in hearsay, taking their own opinions as fact. Deal in the facts and I'll engage with you.
    Edit:@ flutered
    Could you use the quote function properly too. This is the second time you've been asked on this thread.


  • #54
    stanislaw
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37 ✭stanislaw


    ninty9er wrote: »
    I neither have the time nor inclination to argue with those who deal in hearsay, taking their own opinions as fact. Deal in the facts and I'll engage with you.


    would you like facts ninty9er
    this week! eye and ear hospital, Dublin.
    if you attend A&E, are assessed and fed through to the out-patients for ENT treatment, your first appointment time will be in access of 12 months. does that sound like a properly working system ??
    Are you satisfied with the quality of this service ??
    im certainly not !!

    and you never gave an opinion on whether our government and senior civil servants should use the same services as they provide for the general public.
    im looking for your opinion, are you afraid to express one!


  • #55
    yahoo_moe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭yahoo_moe


    ninty9er wrote: »
    People get beds based on their priority, not their time of entry.
    People seem to miss this point regularly. Yes, people sometimes spend 10 hours on a trolley but it's not as if they're cardiac patients or burns victims or whatever.
    stanislaw wrote: »
    You could probably achieve much better results for a much lower spend if the Hse was run properly.
    MY personal view is that there are too many bonuses and the salarys are too big for the various managers. But im sure i dont know the full story.
    Then why not try to find it out? People have given you numerous statistics in the thread and in reply you've said that comparisons aren't useful, thrown out a load of spoofy questions about what you think or what you've heard and reposted the same thing over and over.

    The reason you're not getting any answers is because your question assumes that we've got a terrible terrible health service... but you refuse to discuss or justify your assumption.


  • #56
    stanislaw
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37 ✭stanislaw


    yahoo_moe wrote: »

    Then why not try to find it out? People have given you numerous statistics in the thread and in reply you've said that comparisons aren't useful, thrown out a load of spoofy questions about what you think or what you've heard and reposted the same thing over and over.

    The reason you're not getting any answers is because your question assumes that we've got a terrible terrible health service... but you refuse to discuss or justify your assumption.


    regarding comparisons, yahoo-moe,
    you've mis-quoted me, which seems to be the norm here. what i said was that why do we need to compare our services to any other country, can we not just have a decent health service that actually delivers the service its supposed to! it then does'nt matter what any other country does.

    from my own experience i do believe the health service is terrible and we hav'nt even suffered the budget cutbacks yet. my quote about the eye and ear hospital has just happened, its real. and i dont know about you but i consider a year long wait for an outpatients appointment is'nt really acceptable.

    regarding answers, most people who are throwing up arguments defending the health service are not replying to my original thread which is the one that i really wanted opinions on.
    if you would'nt mind reading it please, id be grateful for your opinion, thanks


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