General UFC Chit Chat/News

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don't ever remember watching a weigh in where
every fighter shook their opponents hand
No bad blood out there at all for a change

Easy Rod

TherapyBoy wrote: »

Starts on BT Sports at 3:30am according to my telly-box. I think the prelims are on the fight pass thing but I'm not sure when they start.

Tweet from setanta there said bt sports 2 at 1am.

adamski8

So we now have to pay for prelims is it? a bunch of ufc unknowns it seems?! I dont know hpw they think people her will pay for that

Easy Rod

Easy Rod wrote: »

Tweet from setanta there said bt sports 2 at 1am.

Looks like the tweet was incorrect!

Weird one.

Lenin Skynard

Very hard to root against Mousasi or Machida. Really a great matchup but I'd like Machida to take it and go on to take the title.

Easy Rod

Pretty lacklustre fights last night overall. Silva was very impressive and I always enjoy watching machida but other fights were not great.

weemcd

Machida really is lighting in that cage. The speed he gets some of his shots off (high kicks) is incredible. You have to take 2,3 shots to land on him. Very impressive, although his style will make boring fights at times. I couldn't help thinking last night how impressive Shoguns 2nd fight against Machida was, nobody has done that to Machida before or since, Jones fight was a different animal as Lyoto started very well with Jones.

Ian Whelan

Easy Rod wrote: »

Pretty lacklustre fights last night overall. Silva was very impressive and I always enjoy watching machida but other fights were not great.

Agree with this. 10 fights out of 12 going to a decision. UFC 170 looks like it will be mediocre as well.

MrStuffins

Normally I tend to enjoy nights a of fights even when it seems to be the consensus that the card was disappointing. But there was no defending that card at the weekend. Pretty dire night!

Not that Rashad is out, the only fight i'm looking forward to at 170 is McDonald v Maia. An uninspiring night of fights on paper but will probably end up being great.

DrPhilG

Easy Rod wrote: »

Looks like the tweet was incorrect!

Weird one.

Why is that weird? When the BT deal started, an official Setanta rep on here claimed that the UFC would continue on the ESPN channel rather than being on BT.

Not known for the accuracy of their info...

Mellor

Ian Whelan wrote: »

Agree with this. 10 fights out of 12 going to a decision. UFC 170 looks like it will be mediocre as well.

Ufc169 set a new record for most decisions ever with 10 out of 12.
Pretty unfortunate that the very next event equals that record.

Easy Rod

DrPhilG wrote: »

Why is that weird? When the BT deal started, an official Setanta rep on here claimed that the UFC would continue on the ESPN channel rather than being on BT.

Not known for the accuracy of their info...

Yeah true, but tbf that whole deal seemed overly-complicated and slightly confusing for all i'd imagine... this tweet was sent out only 3 hours before the event, where did the crossed lines come from?

Mr. Manager

MrStuffins wrote: »

Normally I tend to enjoy nights a of fights even when it seems to be the consensus that the card was disappointing. But there was no defending that card at the weekend. Pretty dire night!

Not that Rashad is out, the only fight i'm looking forward to at 170 is McDonald v Maia. An uninspiring night of fights on paper but will probably end up being great.

Not even to watch Rousey??? I think she's incredible to watch. Hate her all you want (not you in particular I mean) but you can't deny that she's an entertaining watch.

MrStuffins

I love KERSPLAT! longtime wrote: »

Not even to watch Rousey??? I think she's incredible to watch. Hate her all you want (not you in particular I mean) but you can't deny that she's an entertaining watch.

Entertaining yes, but the match itself does nothing for me. it'll probably end up being one of the fights of the year in the end but there's nothing that excites me about it!

dave1982

Rousey would demolish anyone in the womens division and alot in mens also:D

Petis Aldo probably only exciting fight coming up I can think of

OrgasmicBaz

Weidman - Belfort?
Hendricks - Lawler?
Sonnen - Wandy?
BJ - Edgar?

Loads of exciting fights coming up, plus as you mentioned Aldo - Pettis is possible, id like to see Mighty Mouse fight at 135

Only big match up im not looking forward to is Jones - Texeira, but you never know it could end up a barn burner like his fight against Gus

p to the e

OrgasmicBaz wrote: »

Weidman - Belfort?
Hendricks - Lawler?
Sonnen - Wandy?
BJ - Edgar?

Loads of exciting fights coming up, plus as you mentioned Aldo - Pettis is possible, id like to see Mighty Mouse fight at 135

He already fought the majority of his career at BW. He did quite well (had a title fight with Dominic Cruz) but was always undersized. He also lost to Brad Pickett at BW and if Pickett goes on a good run at Fly Weight they may fight again.

Mr. CooL ICE

Only found this now. Tigers in the octagon

OrgasmicBaz

Well hopefully someone can put a decent together at 125, cause at the moment i cant see anyone beating Mighty Mouse. He steamrolled Benaviedez, who is the 2nd best in the weight

OrgasmicBaz

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Kur4mA

Waterford Whispers News is a spoof news site, so not real of course.

Easy Rod

OrgasmicBaz wrote: »

How true was that about the tigers? That article is going back to Jan 2012, ive never seen a tiger in the octagon.

Taking a page out of Vince McMahon's book with that

I...I... I don't even...

OrgasmicBaz

Only just read the full column there ha ha

Thats a real face-palm moment for me

Ignore my previous post :P

Mr. CooL ICE

Easy Rod wrote: »

I...I... I don't even...

I wanted to comment first, but wasn't 100% sure if he was putting it on. But thank you for quoting it so it doesn't disappear

riffmongous

LordChessington wrote: »

Only found this now. Tigers in the octagon

Thanks for that, that's a funny website

weemcd

http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/2/19/5423436/morning-report-ufc-170-georges-st-pierre-dana-white-ronda-rousey-cormier-faber-mma-news

GSP dropping some truth

Wrongway1985

Interesting stat Rouseys title fight this weekend ties with Matt Hughes for quickest next title fight (56 days) on that occasion Hughes went on to lose the title so it would be the quickest defense of a title should she win.

mailburner

http://www.bjpenn.com/ufc-vet-nate-quarry-speaks-out-against-the-ufc-fighters-just-a-product-to-them-they-dont-care/

UFC Vet Nate Quarry Speaks Out Against The UFC

scudzilla

This is just crazy, from Nate Quarry

When I signed with the UFC this is what I was told”

We can’t pay you much but you can have any sponsors you want.

Then: We need to approve your sponsors.

Then: You can’t have any conflicting sponsors.

Then: You can’t thank your sponsors after fights.

Then: We are not approving any sponsors that we don’t like their product.

Then: Your sponsors have to pay us a fee of $50,000 for the pleasure to sponsor you.

Then: Your sponsors have to pay us a fee of $100,000 for the pleasure to sponsor you.

If a sponsor has a budget of 10k to sponsor a fighter, they are then out. If there are 5 shorts companies in the UFC you can only go to them for a sponsorship. If they have spent their budget or don’t want to support an up and coming fighter they give you shorts instead of money. If you’re fighting for $6,000 to show and fighting 3 times a year, even $500 makes a big difference. When there is no competition they don’t have to pay you. I lost And1 as a sponsor when the UFC enacted the tax.

At the UFC summit a fighter asked if he could wear his own shirt. Dana laughed and said, “Uh… we can talk about it.” I turned around and asked the UFC lawyer if I could wear my OWN shirt and he said, “Sure, give me $50,000 and we can talk about it.”

People have no clue from the outside what it’s like to fight for the UFC. After spending 10-15 years chasing your dream only to see that the company it’s been your dream to fight for cares nothing about the fighters and only cares about the bottom line.

When I was fighting for the UFC we got X-Mas presents like an iPod. A very bottom of the line iPod but it was still cool. Now the guys get a gift certificate to the UFC store and can use it ONE day. Any money they don’t spend on that day is forfeited.

A fighter gets to use the gym at the hotel he’s fighting at for free. The cornermen and everyone with him have to pay. So I’m helping Leben make weight the day of weigh ins and have to pay to go sit in the sauna with him. The UFC couldn’t say, “The fighter gets 3 people to go into the gym with him the week of the fight.”

That’s just nickel and dime stuff.

With every little bit they try to squeeze out of the fighters, the more the other organizations will look more attractive.

I’m incredibly grateful for the opportunity to fight for the UFC and everything I have besides my daughter has come from fighting. But let’s not fool ourselves. It’s not a charity. It’s a business. And they are doing everything they can to make money. The fighters are just a product to use and discard. Every up and coming fighter is the best ever. Every ex-fighter who then expresses an opinion is a coward, loser, etc, etc.

I fought for the world title for $10,000. Not a penny more. No bonus. No cut of the PPV. The gate alone was 3.5 million dollars. The third highest gate in UFC history at the time. And they must have loved the fight cuz they show the final punch at the start of EVERY UFC PPV. :-)

And that’s fine. Because it’s a business. But sooner or later the allure of fighting in the UFC will not be as attractive as fighting for an organization that takes care of you, appreciates you, will let you have sponsors to help make up the income gap, doesn’t trash you when you think for yourself, and on and on. Just like every business you work for. It’s funny to me to hear people cheer for Dana when he says things that if he was your boss and he said them about you, you would be looking for another job. But when you’re signed to a contract, you can’t go anywhere. No matter how much you want to.

When I retired I received a form letter, EMAILED to me that said, “Should you choose to fight again you are still under contract with the UFC.” I didn’t even get a hard copy with a real signature that I could frame.

As I said, I love what the UFC has done for me and my family. And specifically what Dana has done for me.
But I also know it’s a business. And that’s the best piece of advice I can give to wanna be fighters. Fight for the love of the game. But you better treat it like a business. Because the promoter handing you a contract sure will.

El Guapo!

Wow. That is crazy!