General UFC Chit Chat/News

bur

The Sherdog Beatdown Roundtables before a big event are usually pretty good, something to listen to beforehand to get hyped or just kill time.

thewheel2.0

Severe MMA podcast is very good. I only started listening to the last few episodes. As a limerick man I enjoy hearing Sean's Limerickisims - so used to listening to Californian based podcasts.

Paully D

Having the misfortune of sitting through Klitschko v Fury tonight. With the rate that MMA is growing at, surely it's going to surpass boxing in the future?

Though Klitschko and Fury sharing a $20m PPV purse probably says a lot.

Dtp1979

Paully D wrote: »

Having the misfortune of sitting through Klitschko v Fury tonight. With the rate that MMA is growing at, surely it's going to surpass boxing in the future?

Though Klitschko and Fury sharing a $20m PPV purse probably says a lot.

Why are you complaining? It's 7 rounds in and they surely have landed 12 punches between them both

jimmii

Paully D wrote: »

Having the misfortune of sitting through Klitschko v Fury tonight. With the rate that MMA is growing at, surely it's going to surpass boxing in the future?

Though Klitschko and Fury sharing a $20m PPV purse probably says a lot.

It was shocking bad. I can't imagine mma ever surpassing it though I think it's just too technical for a lot of people to appreciate. Boxings simplicity is one it's reasons for enduring.

bur

jimmii wrote: »

It was shocking bad. I can't imagine mma ever surpassing it though I think it's just too technical for a lot of people to appreciate. Boxings simplicity is one it's reasons for enduring.

Sorry, but that is just pish.

jimmii

bur wrote: »

Sorry, but that is just pish.

Why do you think that?

laoch na mona

a friend said to me last night he wants mma to split strikers and grapplers . His logic the ground game is boring aand he rather watch a modified kickboxing fight

ASOT

laoch na mona wrote: »

a friend said to me last night he wants mma to split strikers and grapplers . His logic the ground game is boring aand he rather watch a modified kickboxing fight

Tell him to watch Glory so.

jimmii

laoch na mona wrote: »

a friend said to me last night he wants mma to split strikers and grapplers . His logic the ground game is boring aand he rather watch a modified kickboxing fight

lol what did you say to that or did you assume they must be joking!

laoch na mona

jimmii wrote: »

lol what did you say to that or did you assume they must be joking!

I told him that kick boxing, boxing, Muay Thai all exist as separate sports if he doesn't want to watch any grappling

jimmii

laoch na mona wrote: »

I told him that kick boxing, boxing, Muay Thai all exist as separate sports if he doesn't want to watch any grappling

Muay Thai sounds like exactly what he is looking for alright.

Dtp1979

jimmii wrote: »

Muay Thai sounds like exactly what he is looking for alright.

Ye nail him with a huge leg kick, take him down and choke him out. that way he'll see just how boring bjj is

jimmii

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Ye nail him with a huge leg kick, take him down and choke him out. that way he'll see just how boring bjj is

:pac: lol might have a bit more respect for it then! Probably won't much like leg kicks after that though!

Subcomandante Marcos

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Ye nail him with a huge leg kick, take him down and choke him out. that way he'll see just how boring bjj is

Don't even use the leg kick, just sweep him, take side control and D'arce choke him, takes about 10 seconds against people who don't know what's going on.

ligerleo

Paully D wrote: »

Having the misfortune of sitting through Klitschko v Fury tonight. With the rate that MMA is growing at, surely it's going to surpass boxing in the future?

Though Klitschko and Fury sharing a $20m PPV purse probably says a lot.

Boxing for me is a sport that is living off its past fame. The lack of stars these days in boxing in comparison to what there use to be is shocking. If you look at the boxing video games they make nowdays it mainly focuses on legends from the past where as mma games focus on its current stars.

Also theres too many titles in boxing. Boxing fans complain when two guys in the same weight class are not fighting, look how long it took for Pacquiao and Mayweather to fight for instance. This is unheard of in mma where the best in each division always fight and fans complain about superfights not happening.

Also mma is just way exciting and there more knockouts in it than boxing fights which any of the ones I have seen recently have all gone the distance. I'm surprised to hear it has not already surpased boxing. In what way is boxing more popular than mma?

jimmii

ligerleo wrote: »

Boxing for me is a sport that is living off its past fame. The lack of stars these days in boxing in comparison to what there use to be is shocking. If you look at the boxing video games they make nowdays it mainly focuses on legends from the past where as mma games focus on its current stars.

Also theres too many titles in boxing. Boxing fans complain when two guys in the same weight class are not fighting, look how long it took for Pacquiao and Mayweather to fight for instance. This is unheard of in mma where the best in each division always fight and fans complain about superfights not happening.

Also mma is just way exciting and there more knockouts in it than boxing fights which any of the ones I have seen recently have all gone the distance. I'm surprised to hear it has not already surpased boxing. In what way is boxing more popular than mma?

Mayweather vs Pacquiao was apparently the bigger PPV event ever I think it will be a long time until an MMA event gets near those numbers. Obviously that fight is really the exception it will be interesting to see how last nights fight matches up against 194 in terms of buys could well be pretty close.

Boxing is most definitely trading off past greats no doubt about that. Look at the motley bunch lined up for Fury once Klitchko is out of the way none of these guys would have got anywhere near a title fight in the 90s!

Gamebred

The problem with boxing as a product v mma,is its usually a card packed with miss matches and nobodies and a good main event,nobody wants to see a bunch of up and comers demolish bums to pad a record,obviously the ufc and the other mma orgs put on bad cards every so often but in terms of value for money from the prelims up you get a lot more from the ufc.

ligerleo

Gamebred wrote: »

The problem with boxing as a product v mma,is its usually a card packed with miss matches and nobodies and a good main event,nobody wants to see a bunch of up and comers demolish bums to pad a record,obviously the ufc and the other mma orgs put on bad cards every so often but in terms of value for money from the prelims up you get a lot more from the ufc.

Most non main event boxing fights are dull and boring. I think in general tho the UFC is marketed far better than boxing. Most boxers who are not the biggest names a lot of people are not familar with. I also think in the golden era of boxing the big names went out and put on a show for the fans not all that technical nonsense we see these days. Like Hagler v Hearns thats what I called a real fight, we dont see anything like that anymore.

Zero-Cool

Cathal will be on the MMA Hour tomorrow as well as GSP and Cro Cop.

Gamebred

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Cathal will be on the MMA Hour tomorrow as well as GSP and Cro Cop.

3 goats.

ligerleo

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Cathal will be on the MMA Hour tomorrow as well as GSP and Cro Cop.

Hopefully GSP will anounce come back.

jimmii

ligerleo wrote: »

Hopefully GSP will anounce come back.

Vs Pendred :eek:

ligerleo

jimmii wrote: »

Vs Pendred :eek:

Lol.
Vs Robbie Lawlor, thats a fight I've always wanted to see.

Dtp1979

ligerleo wrote: »

Lol.
Vs Robbie Lawlor, thats a fight I've always wanted to see.

I'd say he'll face Hendricks again and the winner get Robbie

Zero-Cool

It's looking like an announcement alright but wouldn't be surprised if it was just a b1tch session about how crappy a person Dana is.

No interest in listening to cro cop swearing he's not a cheater. Also DC will be on but i much prefer watching videos of DC on Tommy Toe Hold than interviews with the actual man himself.

Zero-Cool

ligerleo wrote: »

I wonder what Mirko Cro Cop is going to say for himself?

Probably how he thought the giant muscly guy at his gym was just handing out viagra.

ligerleo

I read somewhere about the pro wrassler Kurt Angle signing with Bellator, not sure if its a fight contract. Its also rumoured he may fight Ken Shamrock further down the line.

Is it likely he will step inside the octagon and how well do ye think he would get on?

CatFromHue

Zero-Cool wrote: »

It's looking like an announcement alright but wouldn't be surprised if it was just a b1tch session about how crappy a person Dana is.

Has GSP bitched much about Dana before?

I thought he was relatively composed about him in interviews I've seen.

Zero-Cool

CatFromHue wrote: »

Has GSP bitched much about Dana before?

I thought he was relatively composed about him in interviews I've seen.

Just recently he said on Sonnens pod cast he might have been back sooner if it wasn't for dana as he didn't like how he was treated at his last press conference (he was told he wasn't allowed attend). That mixed with Dana's recent comment saying he doesn't think GSP will be back as 'you either have the hunger or you don't, a 6 week camp isn't going to change that'

Will be very interesting to see what he has to say tomorrow.

Mellor

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Probably how he thought the giant muscly guy at his gym was just handing out viagra.

Hasn't he openly said he was taking HGH, to try and remove my any means necessary.

Mellor

ligerleo wrote: »

I read somewhere about the pro wrassler Kurt Angle signing with Bellator, not sure if its a fight contract. Its also rumoured he may fight Ken Shamrock further down the line.

Is it likely he will step inside the octagon and how well do ye think he would get on?

He broke his neck a couple of time afaik, he's body is wreked by most accounts. He tried out for TUF a few years ago (Roy Nelson, Kimbo Slice season) but didn't get past the Medicals. I doubt he is in better shape 5 or 6 years away from training.

ASOT

Mellor wrote: »

He broke his neck a couple of time afaik, he's body is wreked by most accounts. He tried out for TUF a few years ago (Roy Nelson, Kimbo Slice season) but didn't get past the Medicals. I doubt he is in better shape 5 or 6 years away from training.

He was only signed by Bellator as an Ambassador AFAIK

ligerleo

ASOT wrote: »

He was only signed by Bellator as an Ambassador AFAIK

Thats a shame, would have been interesting to have seen him fight. He has a gold medal for real wrestling in the olympics and did he not beat Coleman or Hendo in real wrestling?

He most likely aint up to it now then but could have had a serios mma career if he took it up in his prime

Gamebred

He would get knocked unconcious if he took an mma fight at anywhere near high level mma no striking back round will get you schooled,ronda the judoka bet some bums like betch who took up mma to lose weight,first boxer she fought she was obliterated.

Mellor

ASOT wrote: »

He was only signed by Bellator as an Ambassador AFAIK

Yeah that's all he is there for much. But that didn't stop them hinting at the rumour of a match with Ken. So realistically his Ambassador money, is just a slice of their marketing/advertising budget.

ligerleo

If Anderson beats Vitor at UFC 197. How far do you say he is from a title shot?

In my view we never seen a proper fight between Weidman & Silva. The first time Silva lost it himself by clowning around and the second time his leg snapped.

Surely a third matchup would generate a lot of money for the UFC.

Mellor

ligerleo wrote: »

In my view we never seen a proper fight between Weidman & Silva. The first time Silva lost it himself by clowning around and the second time his leg snapped.

He was losing the first fight before the "clowning around". Weidman had a really solid heel hook attempt that people gloss over a lot.
The "clowning around" was an intentional strategy on Silva's behalf. Weidman beat had his timing down and knocked him out.
His leg didn't break on its own.

Silve needs to really impress to get near a title shot. The Diaz fight was an awful performance.

MagicIRL

Mellor wrote: »

Silve needs to really impress to get near a title shot. The Diaz fight was an awful performance.

It was actually that bad I had completely forgotten he fought since the Weidman losses

CurryFlavoured

Makwan Amirkhani has left Allstars Sweden and apparently wants to train at SBG now. That'd be good news, cool fella and a big talent.

stephenl15

CurryFlavoured wrote: »

Makwan Amirkhani has left Allstars Sweden and apparently wants to train at SBG now. That'd be good news, cool fella and a big talent.

He seems like a great personality and seriously talented! Has he fought in ages? I've liked him a lot since his debut

Edit

https://twitter.com/MakwanAmirkhani/status/671468318042292224

martyos121

Unreal news, Mr. Finland will be a future title contender with SBG I reckon, and his press conference skills are up there with the best of them!

Dtp1979

So Amir Khan(i) wants to train in SBG(i) Ha

kearneybobs

stephenl15 wrote: »

He seems like a great personality and seriously talented! Has he fought in ages? I've liked him a lot since his debut

Edit

https://twitter.com/MakwanAmirkhani/status/671468318042292224

He seems like a great prospect. Lot of promise.

Has mentioned in his press conferences with MMARoasted that he would smash McGregor. A match up I would like to see sometime down the line all things going well for Makwan.
John Kavanah initially seems to be open to it.
https://twitter.com/John_Kavanagh/status/671434436357976064

Zero-Cool

The crazy feck has unfollowed everyone except for UFC, JK, Conor and SBG Ireland :pac:

stephenl15

Zero-Cool wrote: »

The crazy feck has unfollowed everyone except for UFC, JK, Conor and SBG Ireland :pac:

He follows conor now? It was just the 3 when I checked :P

kearneybobs

Yup. All 4.

stiffler123

Zero-Cool wrote: »

The crazy feck has unfollowed everyone except for UFC, JK, Conor and SBG Ireland :pac:

A sound bunch of lads.

ASOT

Absolutely delighted, Amirkahni is a beast and a gent. Bought his mam a bed after he won his first fight :pac: now all SBG need is Yair Rodriguez and it'll gave three of the most exciting fighters in the UFC.

Zero-Cool

Here we go!! Your first three fights for UFC Fight Night London!! Bisping vs. Mousasi, Wilkinson vs. Amirkhani and Parke vs. Khabilov!

Well, Bisping wants a challenge, he got it. Poor ol Mike. Will still be rooting for him though. Khabilov is gonna maul Parke and Mr. Finland Ireland is gonna wreck Wilkinson.