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dilapidating

Velasquez next for Werdum.
Don't agree with this matchup at all.
Werdum beat him soundly, would prefer to see a rematch with JDS.

ASOT

dilapidating wrote: »

Velasquez next for Werdum.
Don't agree with this matchup at all.
Werdum beat him soundly, would prefer to see a rematch with JDS.

Disagree about the Jds part I had him being beat against Stipe, the Werdum that faced Cain would maul him. The rematch will be good Cain will actually bother his arse to train properly for this one.

MrStuffins

By the time the fight comes around, it'll be more than 5 years since Cain has fought someone who wasn't Bigfoot Silva, JDS or Werdum!

jjdonegal

dilapidating wrote: »

Velasquez next for Werdum.
Don't agree with this matchup at all.
Werdum beat him soundly, would prefer to see a rematch with JDS.

Fully agree with it tbh. I honestly think Velasquez will beat him. It was some shock to me the same way JDS Cain 1 was. I think we will see a different Cain next time and he defo deserves his chance. Was a bloody tough fight after the injuries.
That said; Werdum is a class act and hard not to like him.

ASOT

Cowboy Dos Anjos official for fight night 19th of December, let's do this Cowboy!!

dilapidating

ASOT wrote: »

Disagree about the Jds part I had him being beat against Stipe, the Werdum that faced Cain would maul him. The rematch will be good Cain will actually bother his arse to train properly for this one.

If you're not taking training properly in the leadup to defending your belt, you shouldn't even be considered for a rematch.

Hazys

ASOT wrote: »

Cowboy Dos Anjos official for fight night 19th of December, let's do this Cowboy!!

Heart says Cowboy, head says RDA

dilapidating

jjdonegal wrote: »

Fully agree with it tbh. I honestly think Velasquez will beat him. It was some shock to me the same way JDS Cain 1 was. I think we will see a different Cain next time and he defo deserves his chance. Was a bloody tough fight after the injuries.
That said; Werdum is a class act and hard not to like him.

Why does he definitely deserve his chance?
Overeem, Arlovski and Rothwell are all on multiple fight win streaks.
JDS just beat a top 5 guy in a war.
The only 2 people Cain has beat in the last 3 years have been named Silva and Dos Santos.

jjdonegal

dilapidating wrote: »

Why does he definitely deserve his chance?
Overeem, Arlovski and Rothwell are all on multiple fight win streaks.
JDS just beat a top 5 guy in a war.
The only 2 people Cain has beat in the last 3 years have been named Silva and Dos Santos.

From my viewpoint; dominant champion who has ruled the HW division for a long time. Straight into a major battle after a lengthy injury lay off.
Do I think that was the best Cain vs FW? Personally, no.
Do I want to see FW vs the best possible Cain?
Personally, yes.

He is just back from his injuries; has a fight under his belt, albeit a loss, and should hopefully be improved next time out.

Opinions are opinions; you could be right and he doesnt deserve it but personally I feel he has and I'm looking forward to it.

Zero-Cool

Anderson had been suspended for a year and his win over Nick has been changed to a No Contest. Appatently they weren't buying his 'my Viagra was contaminated, is normal' defense.

TheJollyRoger

I'm surprised Cowboy-RDA isn't on a numbered UFC card, as I thought cowboy and his popularity would deserve to headline a main ppv. As a fight pass subscriber however I'm not complaining! Keeps 20 bob in the pocket.

threeball

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Anderson had been suspended for a year and his win over Nick has been changed to a No Contest. Appatently they weren't buying his 'my Viagra was contaminated, is normal' defense.

A year from now or a year since he last fought?

Zero-Cool

threeball wrote: »

A year from now or a year since he last fought?

Good question, not sure on that.

Swashbuckler

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Good question, not sure on that.

Since he last fought so the suspension is up Jan 31st.

Mellor

Yeah, from the date of the fight. he needs to pass a drug test before he can fight again (in the US). And he was also fined $380,000 plus hearing/testing costs.

Mellor

NSAC guys phone rings during the hearing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT_g1CQ2ze8

Pulse8

Mellor wrote: »

NSAC guys phone rings during the hearing

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It's something even funnier than that, you could ring in & listen to the press conference via speaker phone for some reason.....people calling in were automatically muted but they announced at the start for a doping expert who had to give evidence via it how to unmute yourself so some fella kept doing it & playing Salt'n'Peppa's "lets talk about sex", Shaggy's "it wasn't me" + something else at the end

Mellor

Pulse8 wrote: »

It's Salt'n'Peppa's "lets talk about sex", Shaggy's "it wasn't me" + something else at the end

Yeah, that's the clip I posted above.

Hoki

The 'it wasn't me' song was very funny as it went on for at least 10 seconds . Nice choices from the pranker!

jcd5971

jjdonegal wrote: »

Fully agree with it tbh. I honestly think Velasquez will beat him. It was some shock to me the same way JDS Cain 1 was. I think we will see a different Cain next time and he defo deserves his chance. Was a bloody tough fight after the injuries.
That said; Werdum is a class act and hard not to like him.

I think it's a ridiculous match up, and what if cain wins, does Werdum not deserve a rematch immediately as well, cain should have to earn his way back to a title shot,

jjdonegal

jcd5971 wrote: »

I think it's a ridiculous match up, and what if cain wins, does Werdum not deserve a rematch immediately as well, cain should have to earn his way back to a title shot,

Fair enough; each to their own.

MartyMcFly84

Really I only agree with rematches straight away if it was a close fight.

If the challenger soundly beats the champ (who has lost his belt before) I don't think there should be grounds for an immediate title shot. He should have to fight one or two more time to get it.

MrStuffins

MartyMcFly84 wrote: »

Really I only agree with rematches straight away if it was a close fight.

If the challenger soundly beats the champ (who has lost his belt before) I don't think there should be grounds for an immediate title shot. He should have to fight one or two more time to get it.

This!

Fair enough if he was an Anderson Silva type who was dominating everyone he fought and was champ for a long long time and got caught. But the lad had defended his belt twice! And got beaten soundly in a one-sided fight when losing the belt.

Only issue here is, there's no real outstanding #1 contender. Miocic? Lost to JDS recently. JDS? Maybe, but how can you give him a go ahead of Cain? AA? Perhaps, but not yet!

ASOT

The main thing really was everyone else deserving was booked up. AA is fighting Mid, Stipe is fighting Rothwell & JDS will be fighting Overeem so the rematch was the only thing on the cards Imo.

TimRiggins

MartyMcFly84 wrote: »

Really I only agree with rematches straight away if it was a close fight.

If the challenger soundly beats the champ (who has lost his belt before) I don't think there should be grounds for an immediate title shot. He should have to fight one or two more time to get it.

Fair point, but the altitude played a huge part. In an ideal world I would have liked Cain to fight Stipe but the fact is Werdum Cain is a completely different fight at normal altitude.

CurryFlavoured

Swashbuckler wrote: »

Since he last fought so the suspension is up Jan 31st.

That's nothing when you consider how often these guys fight.

MrStuffins

TimRiggins wrote: »

Fair point, but the altitude played a huge part. In an ideal world I would have liked Cain to fight Stipe but the fact is Werdum Cain is a completely different fight at normal altitude.

The altitude should not be considered at all because Cain Velasquez, the world champ, didn't consider it enough and got his ass whooped!

TimRiggins

MrStuffins wrote: »

The altitude should not be considered at all because Cain Velasquez, the world champ, didn't consider it enough and got his ass whooped!

Yup. Cain was massively complacent, only went out 2 weeks before the fight IIRC, in comparison to Werdum who spent lots of time there between the Mark Hunt fight and the Cain fight but its a completely different fight in Vegas

mdwexford

Cain will take Werdums head off in a rematch imo.

Tinie

This is pretty funny

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQxh07br2lM