General UFC Chit Chat/News

TimRiggins · 04-01-2016 9:03pm

Looks like Holm/Tate is on the cards judging by Holly on the MMAHour. I think Tate could take that.

martyos121 · 04-01-2016 9:10pm

TimRiggins wrote: »

Looks like Holm/Tate is on the cards judging by Holly on the MMAHour. I think Tate could take that.

Idiotic matchmaking, if Holm loses that (which isn't hugely unlikely) their big money rematch with Ronda is down the drain.

Unless of course Ronda is taking serious time off.

Subcomandante Marcos · 04-01-2016 9:12pm

martyos121 wrote: »

Idiotic matchmaking, if Holm loses that (which isn't hugely unlikely) their big money rematch with Ronda is down the drain.

Unless of course Ronda is taking serious time off.

Even if Tate beats Holm you end up with Ronda vs Tate 3, Ronda redeems herself and beats Tate again and then has her revenge title defence against Holly and gets headkicked into next week again. The UFC can't lose here.

I reckon Ronda will retire if she doesn't fight Holm next.

martyos121 · 04-01-2016 9:15pm

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Even if Tate beats Holm you end up with Ronda vs Tate 3, Ronda redeems herself and beats Tate again and then has her revenge title defence against Holly and gets headkicked into next week again. The UFC can't lose here.

I reckon Ronda will retire if she doesn't fight Holm next.

That's true, but as I said, unless Ronda is taking time off, the rematch is what everyone is dying to see and would sell like crazy if it's the next fight for both. The longer you leave it, the interest will slowly start to drop a bit. It's too risky to blow that big payday for the Fertitas by giving Holly another fight before Ronda, because if she loses that, where do they go from there?

Zero-Cool · 04-01-2016 9:17pm

TimRiggins wrote: »

Looks like Holm/Tate is on the cards judging by Holly on the MMAHour. I think Tate could take that.

She's mad for it but the UFC are ****ting it that if she loses then their previous UFC 200 rematch with Ronda goes out the window. If it does happen, I think Holly will slap Cupcake silly.

TimRiggins · 04-01-2016 9:20pm

martyos121 wrote: »

That's true, but as I said, unless Ronda is taking time off, the rematch is what everyone is dying to see and would sell like crazy if it's the next fight for both. The longer you leave it, the interest will slowly start to drop a bit. It's too risky to blow that big payday for the Fertitas by giving Holly another fight before Ronda, because if she loses that, where do they go from there?

I think Ronda's return is a huge payday regardless and you'd have to fancy her against Miesha. I'm very interested to see what Holm/Tate will do buywise too. Holm has turned into a big name herself just from beating Ronda, and her against Tate will do more buys then alot of big events not featuring McGregor or Ronda. Tate is a bad styles match up for Holly though but it could be a good fight.

Zero-Cool · 04-01-2016 9:45pm

Frankie told Ariel that Lorenzo was gonna have him face off with Conor in the Octagon after Aldo fight and when he was called to go in, Dana stopped him and said 'Conor might fight at 155 or Aldo might get rematch, you're not going in there'. Frankie sounds fairly pissed. I'd prefer Conor do that fight first and then leave 145 behind for good.

martyos121 · 04-01-2016 9:52pm

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Frankie told Ariel that Lorenzo was gonna have him face off with Conor in the Octagon after Aldo fight and when he was called to go in, Dana stopped him and said 'Conor might fight at 155 or Aldo might get rematch, you're not going in there'. Frankie sounds fairly pissed. I'd prefer Conor do that fight first and then leave 145 behind for good.

Ah that's bad form, Frankie got Miesha'd.

Swashbuckler · 04-01-2016 10:06pm

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Frankie told Ariel that Lorenzo was gonna have him face off with Conor in the Octagon after Aldo fight and when he was called to go in, Dana stopped him and said 'Conor might fight at 155 or Aldo might get rematch, you're not going in there'. Frankie sounds fairly pissed. I'd prefer Conor do that fight first and then leave 145 behind for good.

Seems to be the right call from Dana if that's true. No point sending Frankie in there when it might not be his next fight.

Dtp1979 · 04-01-2016 10:17pm

martyos121 wrote: »

Ah that's bad form, Frankie got Miesha'd.

I'd like to get Miesha'd too

Subcomandante Marcos · 04-01-2016 10:19pm

Dtp1979 wrote: »

I'd like to get Miesha'd too

That video of her rolling with the three Australian lads when triangles one of them I was thinking "there's worse places to die than right there..."

Gamebred · 04-01-2016 11:39pm

UFC are praying Miesha beats Holly so they can let Ronda armbar the life out of her and claim the title before retiring no doubt about it.

3hn2givr7mx1sc · 05-01-2016 12:09am

Gamebred wrote: »

UFC are praying Miesha beats Holly so they can let Ronda armbar the life out of her and claim the title before retiring no doubt about it.

So they want one of of their biggest stars to retire as soon as possible? Okay.

Gamebred · 05-01-2016 12:10am

baz2009 wrote: »

So they want one of of their biggest stars to retire as soon as possible? Okay.

News flash,she has no plans on staying around in the sport,they want her no where near Holly Holm.

jjdonegal · 05-01-2016 12:16am

Gamebred wrote: »

News flash,she has no plans on staying around in the sport,they want her no where near Holly Holm.

All the more reason for them to pair her up with Holm if she gonna bolt of in to Hollywood. Holm is the money fight. I'd be surprised if it does not happen to be quite honest.

And another question - when is GSP doing this 6 week camp yoke?

Gamebred · 05-01-2016 12:38am

Surely the ufc just want Ronda back with her belt ASAP? and no where near Holm,I think Ronda would retire then if she got it back and redeemed herself.

3hn2givr7mx1sc · 05-01-2016 12:45am

Gamebred wrote: »

News flash,she has no plans on staying around in the sport,they want her no where near Holly Holm.

The UFC will still want to keep her as long as possible, obviously enough.

Why would they want her to beat the champion and then leave the company? Whoever wins the vacant title would then only ever be compared to Ronda.

Wrongway1985 · 05-01-2016 2:49am

Maybe it's best in the long run for certain fighters not to hang around for others Holly only needs to look at her teammate Carlos Condit after he became interim champ (while doing so was paid less than the man he beat) practically took nearly a year off waiting for GSP. Holly is right the timeframe in combat sports is short shes not getting any younger.

Of course I can see why they'd wanna hold out clearly but instead of placing all their eggs in one basket the UFC should look at the bigger picture active champions is no bad thing after all even a number of cards this past year had 2 titles fights who'd have imagined that in 2014 watching Dillashaw v Joe Soto or seeing Aldo v Mendes II original card getting scrapped after losing the main event.

Zero-Cool · 06-01-2016 10:38am

Mr. Finland is in the house!

Makwan Amirkhani ‏@MakwanAmirkhani 1h1 hour ago Ireland, taxi driver, woman at the reception and the cheff sounded like Conor. Almost went to singleleg with cleaner at the hotel. #ireland

cloudatlas · 06-01-2016 11:59am

Jackson Wink aren't having a good time really are they, lots of their fighters getting a pasting or losing via decision.

Gamebred · 06-01-2016 12:08pm

cloudatlas wrote: »

Jackson Wink aren't having a good time really are they, lots of their fighters getting a pasting or losing via decision.

They still have the GOAT there about to come back and ruin DC,and the best unknown (ish) prospect in the game Yair Rodriguez imo.

Subcomandante Marcos · 06-01-2016 12:08pm

cloudatlas wrote: »

Jackson Wink aren't having a good time really are they, lots of their fighters getting a pasting or losing via decision.

The have Holly and the badest man on the planet. They're doing just fine.

Subcomandante Marcos · 06-01-2016 12:09pm

Gamebred wrote: »

Yair Rodriguez

So much fun to watch.

cloudatlas · 06-01-2016 1:46pm

Gamebred wrote: »

They still have the GOAT there about to come back and ruin DC,and the best unknown (ish) prospect in the game Yair Rodriguez imo.

I'm aware of that but when someone does really well like Conor or Holly it casts some light on the rest of the team so it's sad when there are many losses and the team doesn't live up to the promotion that has been handed to them.

Subcomandante Marcos · 06-01-2016 1:49pm

The fact that so many of their fighters are ranked and fighting for belts proves how good the camp is.

jjdonegal · 06-01-2016 2:55pm

Off The Ball (Newstalk) are talking to a "top UFC fighter who left the promotion due to the poor pay" tonight. Didn't name who it was and not quite sure of top of my head who involved in that lawsuit. Should be an interesting discussion.