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Ush1 wrote: »

Is anyone else really pissed off that the UFC are charging for the fox cards on UFC.tv when they are free in America?

I'm not, they're not expensive, and the PPVs used to be like 40 euro and now they're about a tenner, so overall it's definitely costing less.

El Guapo!

Ush1 wrote: »

Is anyone else really pissed off that the UFC are charging for the fox cards on UFC.tv when they are free in America?

I don't have ESPN and used to really look forward to the fox, fuel and fx cards as they were free on tinternet. Anyone know have the UFC tried to justify penalising us in this way?

Well either way, we still have it handy. If you lived in America you'd be paying $50 for each ppv, whereas they're free on ESPN to us.

Mellor

Ush1 wrote: »

Is anyone else really pissed off that the UFC are charging for the fox cards on UFC.tv when they are free in America?

I don't have ESPN and used to really look forward to the fox, fuel and fx cards as they were free on tinternet. Anyone know have the UFC tried to justify penalising us in this way?

Fox is a subscription channel like ESPN, or Fuel/Fx (the channels that carry my non-PPV events). So it's the same deal everywhere.

Are they free on the Internet in the states?Or are you just talking about being "free" on Fox?

MrStuffins

Ush1 wrote: »

Is anyone else really pissed off that the UFC are charging for the fox cards on UFC.tv when they are free in America?

I don't have ESPN and used to really look forward to the fox, fuel and fx cards as they were free on tinternet. Anyone know have the UFC tried to justify penalising us in this way?

Wait, are they not on ESPN here?

PerrinV2

As some1 said already,where is machida goin with the tache? :eek:

Ush1

Dean09 wrote: »

Well either way, we still have it handy. If you lived in America you'd be paying $50 for each ppv, whereas they're free on ESPN to us.

Only if you've got ESPN that is! I don't have any telly sub so it wouldn't be worth it for me.

Ush1

Mellor wrote: »

Fox is a subscription channel like ESPN, or Fuel/Fx (the channels that carry my non-PPV events). So it's the same deal everywhere.

Are they free on the Internet in the states?Or are you just talking about being "free" on Fox?

When they constantly mention it being free on Fox I was on about and the fact we used to get them free online here. Not sure if they were ever free online in the states.

Ush1

MrStuffins wrote: »

Wait, are they not on ESPN here?

Yes but ESPN isn't free, it's not even a basic sub. Fox, FX and Fuel cards used to be free here on ufc.tv but they have started charging for them.

El Guapo!

PerrinV2 wrote: »

As some1 said already,where is machida goin with the tache? :eek:

Cuba Gooding Jr is lookin well

MrStuffins

PerrinV2 wrote: »

As some1 said already,where is machida goin with the tache? :eek:

I recognise Black Dynamite but who are the other 3?

Scar Tissue

Bottom right Kenny Florian (?), top right is obviously Machida, don't know the other 2

El Guapo!

Scar Tissue wrote: »

Bottom right Kenny Florian (?), top right is obviously Machida, don't know the other 2

I think the bottom 2 are Patrick Cote and Luke Rockhold. Could be wrong though...........they look ridiculous.
Bonus points to Machida though for goin all out and growin the unibrow too!

Lenin Skynard

Scar Tissue wrote: »

Bottom right Kenny Florian (?), top right is obviously Machida, don't know the other 2

Look like Ian McColl rather than Florian.

MrStuffins

Scar Tissue wrote: »

Bottom right Kenny Florian (?), top right is obviously Machida, don't know the other 2

I was actually joking. although having said that I think I only recognised Machida & Rashad :P

adamski8

Ush1 wrote: »

Yes but ESPN isn't free, it's not even a basic sub. Fox, FX and Fuel cards used to be free here on ufc.tv but they have started charging for them.

Hold up, so your complaining that you have to pay for your entertainment as you dont pay currently for any tv package?

They are only 'free' in america to entice people to buy ppv which we dont have to if we pay for a tv package with espn.

I dont understand, your complaining that your not getting ufc cards for absolutly nothing? What makes you feel that your entitled to this?

Mellor

Ush1 wrote: »

When they constantly mention it being free on Fox I was on about and the fact we used to get them free online here. Not sure if they were ever free online in the states.

They are free on fox, in the same way they are free on ESPN.
UFC.tv was free everywhere for a while, now its not.

Ush1 wrote: »

Yes but ESPN isn't free, it's not even a basic sub. Fox, FX and Fuel cards used to be free here on ufc.tv but they have started charging for them.

Fox isn't free. It's a subscription channel just like ESPN.
Whether or not they are avail on a basic package is nothing to do with the UFC and purely down to what channel decided to pay for it.
It's not on SkySports because they didn't pay for it. Which is ridiculous considering they are basically the same company as Fox. They were willing to pick it up in other countries outside the US, just not UK and Ireland.

Ush1

adamski8 wrote: »

Hold up, so your complaining that you have to pay for your entertainment as you dont pay currently for any tv package?

They are only 'free' in america to entice people to buy ppv which we dont have to if we pay for a tv package with espn.

I dont understand, your complaining that your not getting ufc cards for absolutly nothing? What makes you feel that your entitled to this?

Well America has already a far bigger market than this side of the atlantic so making it free for people here would surely generate more interest for those that don't have ESPN.

I'm complaining that we are charged for Fox cards when Americans get it for free and we also up until recently got it free, simples.

Ush1

Mellor wrote: »

They are free on fox, in the same way they are free on ESPN.
UFC.tv was free everywhere for a while, now its not.

Ah right, so they're not actually free. Makes a bit more sense.

Mellor wrote: »

Fox isn't free. It's a subscription channel just like ESPN.
Whether or not they are avail on a basic package is nothing to do with the UFC and purely down to what channel decided to pay for it.
It's not on SkySports because they didn't pay for it. Which is ridiculous considering they are basically the same company as Fox. They were willing to pick it up in other countries outside the US, just not UK and Ireland.

Be curious to see if the fox cards are charged on ufc.tv from people logging in from the US.

Zero-Cool

Great vid here. Will probably be taken down by UFC soon but shows clips of some brilliant scenes from the UFC.

Richy06

Mellor wrote: »

They are free on fox, in the same way they are free on ESPN.
UFC.tv was free everywhere for a while, now its not.



Fox isn't free. It's a subscription channel just like ESPN.
Whether or not they are avail on a basic package is nothing to do with the UFC and purely down to what channel decided to pay for it.
It's not on SkySports because they didn't pay for it. Which is ridiculous considering they are basically the same company as Fox. They were willing to pick it up in other countries outside the US, just not UK and Ireland.

Fox in the US is not a subscription channel. It's a national broadcaster.
It's cable subsidiaries come with most basic cable packages, so you could say that is a paid service, but not really.

To the chap who was complaining about how we get the non PPV cards now - this isn't down to the UFC. They just sell to the highest bidder.

Ush1

Richy06 wrote: »

Fox in the US is not a subscription channel. It's a national broadcaster.
It's cable subsidiaries come with most basic cable packages, so you could say that is a paid service, but not really.

To the chap who was complaining about how we get the non PPV cards now - this isn't down to the UFC. They just sell to the highest bidder.

I assumed it was a national broadcaster and so wasn't sub.

Mellor

Richy06 wrote: »

Fox in the US is not a subscription channel. It's a national broadcaster.
It's cable subsidiaries come with most basic cable packages, so you could say that is a paid service, but not really.

Maybe we are getting mixed up over the wording here. I was using paid and subscription as the same thing. This was my understanding;

Fox Sports is on the cable network. To get fox in the US you have to pay a monthly subscription to Fox.

For me here in aus, its called Foxtel. Same deal really.
UFC is split between FX and Fuel. (I have FX but not Fuel - because of the package I have)

Ireland - Sky, Which is basically Fox.
UFC is on Sky if you get the sports chanells

Richy06

UFC On Fox is on the Fox Network, the free to air version, in the US.
It might then get repeated/syndicated in the cable subsidiaries that make up Fox Sports, but it goes out on the 'main' channel live first.

Ush1

Richy06 wrote: »

UFC On Fox is on the Fox Network, the free to air version, in the US.
It might then get repeated/syndicated in the cable subsidiaries that make up Fox Sports, but it goes out on the 'main' channel live first.

Cheers for that.

So again I would ask, why charge us for something free in the states?

Richy06

They get paid huge money by FOX to put big fights on air. They do it because of this money as well as to try and hook new viewers into their bread and butter - PPV.

Over here, the Fox cards probably don't come under the TV deal that ESPN would have negotiated with the UFC, so it gets put to PPV.

It's pointless comparing what they get accross the pond with here, because there's different deals for different territories. So really, if you want to watch the Fox cards for free, download them or move to the US.

MrStuffins

Wait....... can someone tell me whether or not the Fox Cards actually on ESPN here?

I think they are arent they? Wasnt the last Fox card on ESPN? Also, since they renewed the deal, ESPN have been showing all UFC content including Prelims!

BidillyBo

MrStuffins wrote: »

Wait....... can someone tell me whether or not the Fox Cards actually on ESPN here?

I think they are arent they? Wasnt the last Fox card on ESPN? Also, since they renewed the deal, ESPN have been showing all UFC content including Prelims!

Yea it is says so on their website

MrStuffins

BidillyBo wrote: »

Yea it is says so on their website

Great.

Then its a silly conversation

Richy06

No idea about the ESPN deal, myself. I download the cards the morning after. But if everything is on ESPN...well, it kinda is free.

Professey Chin

Looks like Dos Santos has been given a Nike deal aswell according to his twitter. Dunno if its global or regional though