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Why is it that Trapattoni doesn't speak fluent/near fluent english?

  • 13-10-2010 5:08pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭


    He has been managing Ireland for a good bit, but still strains himself answering. I remember watching Rafael Van Der Vaart move to Real Madrid. He was giving press conferences in Spanish 3 months after moving, without a translator. After 6 months fluently.

    Jose Mourinho speaks English, French, Italy, Spanish and Portuguese and I imagine them all coherently. From what I see of Trapattoni he would need the translator inside the dressing room issuing commands. If he doesn't have the translator by his side I can see the rollout of tactics/motivating player being a difficulty.

    Surely he should gets the very best of teachers to have him speaking English in less than a year. If not fluently, at least without the need for a translator in interviews.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    his english is perfectly fine imo apart from a few words here and there.

    he is easier to understand than the gimp that managed the team before him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Multiple language test than impromptu sacking, tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,370 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    CorkMan wrote: »
    I remember watching Rafael Van Der Vaart move to Real Madrid. He was giving press conferences in Spanish 3 months after moving, without a translator. After 6 months fluently.

    His mother is Spanish. Hence the name Rafael.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    i have hardly ever heard his translator translate his responces, or heard him conducting interviews or press conferecnces in any other language apart from english.

    only time i have heard the translator is to translate what the interviewer is asking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    Probably because he is Italian. And 71 years old.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,503 ✭✭✭adamski8


    yeah FS learning a foreign language in your 70's should be piss easy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,415 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Oh wow. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,430 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    You would swear that all Irish people were able to speak 4-5 languages.

    I think his English is ok, not fantastic but gets point across.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 586 ✭✭✭devotional1993


    his english is perfectly fine imo apart from a few words here and there.

    he is easier to understand than the gimp that managed the team before him.

    could be worse -could have an american south Dublin accent loike..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,852 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    Tevez Anderson to name a few that have shiit English


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,590 ✭✭✭jaykay74


    If Brian Kerr can make the effort to learn seagull then Trap should speak English good :P

    The "good" is on purpose


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 586 ✭✭✭devotional1993


    jaykay74 wrote: »
    If Brian Kerr can make the effort to learn seagull then Trap should speak English good :P

    The "good" is on purpose


    Kerr got a raw deal -he should find a place with the fai in some capacity managing-how that Don Givens stayed on so long is a joke.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭MUSEIST


    Why does he not speak gaelige yet??:confused::confused::eek::D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭Rekop dog


    Have you not seen his interpreter OP? He's obv doing as little as he can to keep her around as long as possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,190 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    What'sa matta you, hey!
    Gotta no respect, whatta you think you do,

    Why you looka so sad? It's-a not so bad, it's-a nice-a place,



    Ahhh, shaddap you face!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,964 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    CorkMan wrote: »
    He has been managing Ireland for a good bit, but still strains himself answering. I remember watching Rafael Van Der Vaart move to Real Madrid. He was giving press conferences in Spanish 3 months after moving, without a translator. After 6 months fluently.

    Jose Mourinho speaks English, French, Italy, Spanish and Portuguese and I imagine them all coherently. From what I see of Trapattoni he would need the translator inside the dressing room issuing commands. If he doesn't have the translator by his side I can see the rollout of tactics/motivating player being a difficulty.

    Surely he should gets the very best of teachers to have him speaking English in less than a year. If not fluently, at least without the need for a translator in interviews.

    Are you nearly fluent in English yourself?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,350 ✭✭✭Het-Field


    I might be wrong in this. However, I have always found it interesting that when Ireland perform Trappatoni brings out the translator. When Ireland perform poorly Trapp speaks for himself in broken English. Am I a bit paranoid, or might I be right in thinking that Trappatoni brings out the broken English on a tactical basis ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭newballsplease


    How many years have we been taught Irish..... and I still cant string a sentence together.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    He needs the interpretor mainly for the media imo so as not to say anything stupid and getting devoured by the clowns

    im sure the players understand him perfectly when he is shouting at them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Jose Mourinho speaks English, French, Italy, Spanish and Portuguese and I imagine them all coherently.

    He did work as an interpreter though

    As for Trap, he's 71, he can barely pick a good team or tactics. I rather he get those aspect right first


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    He still lives full time in Italy, no? I spent a year in France after studying French for 8 years and my French still isn't perfect.

    How's your Italian, OP?

    Thought so.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,213 ✭✭✭Mrmoe


    His German is not too bad.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭CorkMan


    tolosenc wrote: »
    He still lives full time in Italy, no? I spent a year in France after studying French for 8 years and my French still isn't perfect.

    How's your Italian, OP?

    Thought so.

    Mi espanol está muy bien. (My spanish is very good)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,430 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    CorkMan wrote: »
    Mi espanol está muy bien. (My spanish is very good)


    Joys of Google eh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,920 ✭✭✭Einhard


    Rekop dog wrote: »
    Have you not seen his interpreter OP? He's obv doing as little as he can to keep her around as long as possible.

    She has a talented tongue I hear.

    Ahem.

    :pac:


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭jayteecork


    jaykay74 wrote: »
    If Brian Kerr can make the effort to learn seagull then Trap should speak English good :P

    The "good" is on purpose

    He seems to be settling in though.
    Isn't that him on the right?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Faroese_folk_dance_club_from_vagar.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,394 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    I hate when Irish people complain about a foreigners English.
    9 times out of 10 the person complaining can't speak anything other than English/The Irish anthem.

    /off topic rant


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭Carcharodon


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Are you nearly fluent in English yourself?

    But I hear the OPs Italy is extremely good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭Mister men


    Most stupid thread in the history of the soccer forum?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,881 ✭✭✭bohsman


    Mrmoe wrote: »

    His German is worse than his English.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭JerryHandbag


    Funny that because I think it was BBC Football Focus who did a special report on how "poor" Fabio Capellos english is. Its better than my Italian!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 366 ✭✭Irishrossoblu


    bohsman wrote: »
    His German is worse than his English.

    Correct bohsmman. His rant in German is famous. It sounds great, but it is 'broken German'. He also lived in Germany day in, day out. He doesnt live in Ireland. He commutes once every 3 months.

    He has a translator, and so doesnt need to speak English. If she wasnt there, you could be damn sure he would be better than he is. The only bad thing about his English is that he hasnt enough to do a classic Trap rant. That would be great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭Warper


    Give the guy a break. He is in his 70's. He doesnt need to speak fluent English and he never will speak fluent English. He can get his point across plus he has an interpretor.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭CorkMan


    Mrmoe wrote: »

    Translation: Praise The Fuhrer! Best regards to Mussolini!


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