FAI Cup Semis & League of Ireland football this weekend, 15-17 Oct 2010

dfx-

I'm not the biggest fan of Dessie, but he was outstanding. Turner and Sives weren't far behind him. I'd be much happier with Murphy instead of Stevens. I thought Dennehy was immensely frustrating/poor and should've cost a goal in the first half.

It's clear what happened even from behind a floodlight pylon on the Camac side. Rovers fans on the pitch, Pats fans 'ask' them over, Rovers stupidly do so and Pats throw the bottles ala ambush. If dreamers75 can find a picture of the raping and pillaging Rovers fans running with bottles in hand at the halfway line, I'll change my mind..

dreamers75

dfx- wrote: »

I'm not the biggest of Dessie, but he was outstanding. Turner and Sives weren't far behind him. I'd be much happier with Murphy instead of Stevens. I thought Dennehy was immensely frustrating/poor and should've cost a goal in the first half.

It's clear what happened even from behind a floodlight pylon on the Camac side. Rovers fans on the pitch, Pats fans 'ask' them over, Rovers stupidly do so and Pats throw the bottles ala ambush. If dreamers75 can find a picture of the raping and pillaging Rovers fans running with bottles in hand at the halfway line, I'll change my mind..

Are you deluded?

Your fans chant "we are going on the pitch" then go on the pitch and move towards the pats fans giving it loads. Everything that happened tonight was caused by Rovers fans, i know its the norm to blame others or say it did happen.

But please point oiut the pats fans in this video? Terrible goading from pats in their ****ing seats!

http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/video/video.php?v=1436256630768

one2one

Both sets of 'fans', the chap on fm104 is taking the pi$$ though, he's describing it as if the place was getting wrecked, nothing like that at all, handbags flying was all, and everyone was cleared from the pitch within minutes. Get over it. Great game, both sides were outstanding and should be proud of their performances. Well done Pats & Rovers. Would encourage anyone to go to a game if it was always like that.

stovelid

dfx- wrote: »

It's clear what happened even from behind a floodlight pylon on the Camac side. Rovers fans on the pitch, Pats fans 'ask' them over, Rovers stupidly do so and Pats throw the bottles ala ambush. If dreamers75 can find a picture of the raping and pillaging Rovers fans running with bottles in hand at the halfway line, I'll change my mind..

That's how I saw it too but admittedly I was way back in the shed so I'm happy to be proved wrong if there is a video.

Not making excuses for any on our side obviously.

dreamers75

stovelid wrote: »

That's how I saw it too but admittedly I was way back in the shed so I'm happy to be proved wrong if there is a video.

Not making excuses for any on our side obviously.

I was sitting in the gantry, nothing blocking my view of it. Also annoyed as i my kid with me and couldnt get out of the stadium at full time.

dfx-

Not a member of facebook thankfully..

But if they're in their seats, then it's not them. They were standing behind the goal.

TangyZizzle

Cant see that vid dreamers

'This video either has been removed from Facebook or is not visible due to privacy settings.,'

Oat23

It's amazing that nearly every single f**king incident that happens with fans includes Shams fans, aint it?

Absolute scum, they give nothing but bad press to our league.

Don't give be that ''small group'' bulls*it.

dfx-

stovelid wrote: »

I was chatting to the one of the riot cops outside. He said there was no fighting (at that time - 10 minutes after kick-off - anyway) but they were just dispersing the supporters by separate ways. I parked in Inchicore and couldn't see any evidence of burning buildings, riots and the like but maybe they were bringing civilisation to its knees down the back-streets instead. I texted my wife some emergency amendments to our will just in case though.

Inchicore just now:

NufcNavan

Shamrock Rovers letting the League down again. Another paltry €500 fine from FAI for their model club I suppose.

stovelid

Oatesy23 wrote: »

It's amazing that nearly every single f**king incident that happens with fans includes Shams fans, aint it?

Absolute scum, they give nothing but bad press to our league.

Don't give be that ''small group'' bulls*it.

They're worse than I thought if they even throw bricks through the windows of their own family supporter buses in Sligo now?

Ebbs

Oatesy23 wrote: »

It's amazing that nearly every single f**king incident that happens with fans includes Shams fans, aint it?

Absolute scum, they give nothing but bad press to our league.

Don't give be that ''small group'' bulls*it.

Jealousy is contagious in this little league of ours

Its not the FAI/LoI/Refs/media/illuminti that make us the "model" club, its the small man syndrome rampant in the league. Someone is running a club properly and yet they get criticised by only what they do wrong. Look closer to home for problems.

SantryRed

Ebbs wrote: »

Jealousy is contagious in this little league of ours

Its not the FAI/LoI/Refs/media/illuminti that make us the "model" club, its the small man syndrome rampant in the league. Someone is running a club properly and yet they get criticised by only what they do wrong. Look closer to home for problems.

Running a club properly is not paying any debts is it? Also, haven't you been running at a loss the past two seasons no?

j1smithy

A riot at a LOI/FAI cup game... how come that doesn't surprise me.

Ebbs

SantryRed wrote: »

Running a club properly is not paying any debts is it? Also, haven't you been running at a loss the past two seasons no?

The current administration aren't the ones of the past. You cant compare the two and pretend to take the high ground. Maguire et el were just like the rest of the shams that tried to run this league into the ground. I dont recall saying we "ran" the club well, I said at present we are "running" our club to perfection.

Someone got a hold of that rag of a paper who have no idea how to read accounts. Retained losses are not debt or any such matter. You can make a 100million profit and still have retained losses. In saying that...we have offset the debt and are running will come out with retained earnings for this calender year and the financial year.

j1smithy wrote: »

A riot at a LOI/FAI cup game... how come that doesn't surprise me.

Back on the barstool with you..

Oat23

stovelid wrote: »

They're worse than I thought if they even throw bricks through the windows of their own family supporter buses in Sligo now?

They threw bricks at their own buses? Jaysus, I know our knackers threw rocks but why would yours throw bricks? :eek:

The Conway family from the Centra shop across from the showgrounds send their regards, you might remember the shopkeeper on crutches who was attacked?

Ebbs wrote: »

Jealousy is contagious in this little league of ours

Its not the FAI/LoI/Refs/media/illuminti that make us the "model" club, its the small man syndrome rampant in the league. Someone is running a club properly and yet they get criticised by only what they do wrong. Look closer to home for problems.

I'm a Sligo Rovers fan...
We are 3rd, in a cup final and have already won a cup.
We also have one of the best teams in the league who can win games AND entertain the paying fans.

Jealous of Shamrock Rovers .

Our club is being run very well.

stovelid

j1smithy wrote: »

A riot at a LOI/FAI cup game... how come that doesn't surprise me.

Cerebral inertia?

stovelid

Oatesy23 wrote: »

Jaysus, I know our knackers threw rocks

So you have them?

Oat23

stovelid wrote: »

So you have them?

It's Sligo!

j1smithy

Ebbs wrote: »

Back on the barstool with you..

It appears I'd be safer on the bar stool than at a LOI/Cup game. How come its only soccer in Ireland thats marred with spectator violence. Never heard of it occurring in Rugby, and mass violent pitch invasions in GAA don't happen, and when there was an incident, proper remedial measures were taken.

super_furry

Oatesy23 wrote: »

Our club is being run very well.

Indeed. Now if you lot could only drop the obsession with us, you'd be fine.

stovelid

Oatesy23 wrote: »

It's Sligo!

Often the element (either local or around) some clubs only show up when Rovers are in town. That doesn't make it only Rovers at it though god knows there are Rovers at it.

Pats invaded the pitch and charged our end at the last game of last season and there was virtually no comment from fans of other clubs.

j1smithy wrote: »

It appears I'd be safer on the bar stool than at a LOI/Cup game. How come its only soccer in Ireland thats marred with spectator violence. Never heard of it occurring in Rugby, and mass violent pitch invasions in GAA don't happen, and when there was an incident, proper remedial measures were taken.

LOL.

Also your beloved English, Scottish, Spanish and Italian teams still have considerable form in the disorder stakes although you'd hardly know otherwise sat in a pub in Ireland or waffling on forums when the games are actually on.

bohsman

j1smithy wrote: »

, and mass violent pitch invasions in GAA don't happen,

Wait, what?

NufcNavan

j1smithy wrote: »

A riot at a LOI/FAI cup game... how come that doesn't surprise me.

Come off it you West Brit, you wouldn't call that a riot.

j1smithy

bohsman wrote: »

Wait, what?

When was the last time there was a riot at a GAA or Rugby game?

NufcNavan

j1smithy wrote: »

It appears I'd be safer on the bar stool than at a LOI/Cup game. How come its only soccer in Ireland thats marred with spectator violence. Never heard of it occurring in Rugby, and mass violent pitch invasions in GAA don't happen, and when there was an incident, proper remedial measures were taken.

You're having a laugh right?

bohsman

j1smithy wrote: »

When was the last time there was a riot at a GAA or Rugby game?

Some final there a while back - this year I think?, the ref and some players got attacked.

dfx-

j1smithy wrote: »

When was the last time there was a riot at a GAA or Rugby game?

There's more violence in my signature clip than tonight..

Ebbs

j1smithy wrote: »

It appears I'd be safer on the bar stool than at a LOI/Cup game. How come its only soccer in Ireland thats marred with spectator violence. Never heard of it occurring in Rugby, and mass violent pitch invasions in GAA don't happen, and when there was an incident, proper remedial measures were taken.

Yep, they definatly didnt just erect huge fences to stop pitch invasions. There is never huge on pitch brawls between PLAYERS in both sports. Ever. There is also never numerous reports of violence between UNDERAGE intercounty game. Ever.


And yet...there is more passion and atmosphere at a Rovers and Bohs game, that holds 6000 people than there is at a prawn sandwich affair that holds 80,000.

j1smithy

bohsman wrote: »

Some final there a while back - this year I think?, the ref and some players got attacked.

I take it you're referring to the Louth/Meath Leinster final. Yes, the referee was attacked and that was completely unacceptable. The powers that be in the GAA then took the correct decisions to ensure it doesn't happen again. I've lived in phibsboro and the place used to regularly grind to a halt when there were matches on all because the spectators couldn't have manners. Violence is endemic at LOI and unlike other sports where they have isolated incidents, its an ongoing problem for soccer in Ireland - and nothing is ever done about, just ignored. Where are the match bans for the problem supporters?

Even posters here joke at the fact that the sanction handed out to the club will be a mere €500 fine. Wheres the incentive to stop this carry on?

Zebra3

j1smithy wrote: »

Violence is endemic at LOI

My f*cking hole it is. :rolleyes:

bohsman

j1smithy wrote: »

I take it you're referring to the Louth/Meath Leinster final. Yes, the referee was attacked and that was completely unacceptable. The powers that be in the GAA then took the correct decisions to ensure it doesn't happen again.

It happens regularly, from the underage games right up - surely they should have stopped stuff like this after the ref got locked in a car boot.

stovelid

Zebra3 wrote: »

My f*cking hole it is. :rolleyes:

We all know it's not but then again a lot of LOI supporters themselves spend a significant amount of time implying that there is in order to score points against rival clubs.

j1smithy

Zebra3 wrote: »

My f*cking hole it is. :rolleyes:

Well how come towns have to go into lock-down when certain clubs go travelling? How come phibsboro has more gardai than a busy night in Coppers when bohs are playing. Its because the fans cant have manners and have to be segregated, which is unheard of in other sports in Ireland.

stovelid

j1smithy wrote: »

Well how come towns have to go into lock-down when certain clubs go travelling? How come phibsboro has more gardai than a busy night in Coppers when bohs are playing. Its because the fans cant have manners and have to be segregated, which is unheard of in other sports in Ireland.

Because most of the police in Ireland have a virulent antipathy towards "sacair" supporters and cannot police matches properly.

OPENROAD

Is there trouble often inside the grounds here? It never seems to get reported in the media here.

Ebbs

j1smithy wrote: »

Sensationalised media-esic comments based on garbage and hearsay

Location: United Kingdom

Explains it.

I heard the GSE did a job on Tommy Hatcher's son, proper nawtty stuff. :rolleyes:

bohsman

OPENROAD wrote: »

Is there trouble often inside the grounds here? It never seems to get reported in the media here.

No, its very rare, most **** happens well away from the stadium.

paulcorr

As a Rovers fan there tonight i have to say it was one of the best games i have been at in a long time.Atmosphere was electric and both teams gave it their all only 2 days after the first meeting.What happened at the end was a joke im not going to defend Rovers fans or knock Pats fans but it was always going to happen whoever won.And if you look at the photos its not real Rovers or Pats fans its all young lads who are great when 20 or 30 of them get together.On FM104 tonight a woman a Pats fan said she was scared for her life and her kids in thr family section of the stand,yet from where i was standing in the shed end numerous bottles where thrown from the said family section.

OPENROAD

bohsman wrote: »

No, its very rare, most **** happens well away from the stadium.

What is the atmosphere like inside grounds, is there a tense atmosphere in the stands/terraces or is it friendly?

Zebra3

stovelid wrote: »

We all know it's not

Yep, 378 league games alone this season, and out of them only a small minority would have an incident at them.

stovelid wrote: »

but then again a lot of LOI supporters themselves spend a significant amount of time implying that there is in order to score points against rival clubs.

No, it's just your club and its supporters have a serious head in the sand attitude.

But that's much more your problem than it is mine.

bohsman

OPENROAD wrote: »

What is the atmosphere like inside grounds, is there a tense atmosphere in the stands/terraces or is it friendly?

Generally friendly, same as anywhere Im sure, big derbys are going to be different etc.

applehunter

Just seen the highlights and lowlights on the RTE player there.

Your man with the umbrella:D



...never a red card.

stovelid

applehunter wrote: »

Your man with the umbrella:D
.

Can't believe he didn't think he'd be seen. Should be easy to identify hopefully.

Zebra3 wrote: »

No, it's just your club and its supporters have a serious head in the sand attitude.
But that's much more your problem than it is mine.

I've been at enough games to see 'naughtiness' from supporters of nearly all the bigger clubs on this country including yours although we would certainly have amongst the larger amounts commensurate with a larger fanbase.

Jim

I live in Inchicore and can usually hear the crowds from the games from my apartment. Didn't hear a peep tonight.

Riots ain't what they used to be.

j1smithy

stovelid wrote: »

Because most of the police in Ireland have a virulent antipathy towards "sacair" supporters and cannot police matches properly.

Thats absolute bollocks and you know it is. Head in the sand attitude blaming everyone else but your own support for the trouble they bring. Where are the match bans for troublesome support. How come law abiding fans aren't distancing themselves from the trouble makers. Its because its accepted behaviour among the supporters.

Ebbs wrote: »

Location: United Kingdom

Explains it.

I heard the GSE did a job on Tommy Hatcher's son, proper nawtty stuff. :rolleyes:

What has my location got anything to do with it. I'm Irish and have witnessed first hand violence outside Dalymount park when I lived in Phibsboro last year.

bohsman wrote: »

No, its very rare, most **** happens well away from the stadium.

You mean like just outside it, in front of Phibsboro Shopping Centre. I've also had the misfortune of travelling through a small county town while travelling support from a LOI club were there. The place was deserted and the pubs shut out of fear they would come into the town and trash the place. Admittidly that was a few years ago, but from the scenes tonight it looks like nothing has changed.

Zebra3

j1smithy wrote: »

When was the last time there was a riot at a GAA or Rugby game?

GAAheads seem to be too busy selling coke to find time for a riot.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/1020/1224281544376.html

FUNKY LOVER

has been happening for years

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSy0lxfWWMo&has_verified=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPiWXvdo8d0

CiaranC

j1smithy wrote: »

What has my location got anything to do with it. I'm Irish and have witnessed first hand violence outside Dalymount park when I lived in Phibsboro last year.

What do you care? And why do you think any LOI fans care what you think?

If some Pats fans have a problem with our current problems with a section of our support then fair enough, but why do you think we are interested in what some GAA-head barstooler thinks about it?

OPENROAD wrote:

What is the atmosphere like inside grounds, is there a tense atmosphere in the stands/terraces or is it friendly?

What a bizarre post. Is there something stopping you going along to a match to find out?

stovelid

j1smithy wrote: »

Where are the match bans for troublesome support.

A number of clubs including ours have banned supporters.

j1smithy wrote: »

How come law abiding fans aren't distancing themselves from the trouble makers.

Our forums would suggest otherwise. Plus, you obviously know fuck-all LOI supporters.

j1smithy wrote: »

I've also had the misfortune of travelling through a small county town while travelling support from a LOI club were there. The place was deserted and the pubs shut out of fear they would come into the town and trash the place. Admittidly that was a few years ago, but from the scenes tonight it looks like nothing has changed.

Unlike you, I'm a regular attendee of LOI games all over Dublin and Ireland and I've had pre-match pints in pubs from Sligo to Longford; Cork to Dundalk and mix regularly with supporters from all clubs, including our closest rivals. I have rarely seen mass closed down pubs except for places like Phibsboro occasionally for rovers matches and that's probably at the behest of the Gardai who have wholly a unwarranted antipathy towards Bohemians.

It's incredible that you don't feel ashamed to spout such biased inaccurate Gah-venom. And more so that you appear to be doing so without censure.

The amount of policing around games in England (again something I know more about than you) is far worse but we hardly want to spoil the EPL product ****-fest in here do we?