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Political leanings/ideas of AH posters

  • 15-10-2010 10:18pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭


    I just wanted to get an idea of the political leanings of board menmbers and see if there is common ground or are we quite diverse . Are you the member of a party? Are you happy with the leadership of that party? etc

    Personally I would probably be left leaning and have a liberal way of thinking about things and quite socialist on many things, allot of my beliefs are probably quite un popular and i have noticed this on boards.
    I have noticed a lot of things said on boards that I would drastically disagree with.
    I am not the member of any party and do not support any party in particular .
    I find them to be all trying to be totally populist(not sure if thats the right phrase) and not willing to try anything that may ruffle a few feathers of the people in the upper echelons of this society. Even with the situation we know find our selves in they remain far too conservative for my liking.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    Sharkey 10 wrote: »
    anything that may ruffle a few feathers of the people in the upper echelons of this society.

    tl;dr: upset FlutterinBantam.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,554 ✭✭✭✭alwaysadub


    I'm not a member of any party.

    The only party i support is one where i can get drunk and do silly things.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,778 ✭✭✭Pauleta


    There are a lot of left wing loons around Boards, dont notice too many far right people. Im a down the middle man. I hate the far left and far right but find it strange why the far left is more socially acceptable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Simpsons quotes for all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Scuid Mhór


    i feel like making my own party.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Sharkey 10


    Pauleta wrote: »
    There are a lot of left wing loons around Boards, dont notice too many far right people. Im a down the middle man. I hate the far left and far right but find it strange why the far left is more socially acceptable.
    It depends who defines far left imo , by fox news standards im probably far left but in reality i am only left leaning. To answer your question I think it is because it sounds nicer to people


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,784 ✭✭✭Superbus


    Pauleta wrote: »
    There are a lot of left wing loons around Boards, dont notice too many far right people. Im a down the middle man. I hate the far left and far right but find it strange why the far left is more socially acceptable.

    Worl War 2 probably.

    Same reason most people would see Hitler as more evil than Stalin. He wasn't on the Allied side.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭Grimreaper666


    I never supported Fianna Fail in any shape or form but unfortunately I doubt i'd support any political party now from what i'm seeing, there isn't a decent party to support, they're all only in it for what they can get out of it for themselves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    alwaysadub wrote: »
    I'm not a member of any party.

    The only party i support is one where i can get drunk and do silly things.

    Luckily for you, like-minded people run the country.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    I'm a total cynic in matters political. I look upon the empty words and deeds of those elected to office in this country with a default setting of disdain. Its the only way to treat them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    The fascist pig party


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭Absurdum


    most people here are lefty students who have no idea about the real world

    runs away


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    Simpsons quotes for all.

    Simpson quotes for some, coke and hookers for others.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Vast majority of my views default to the left but I don't "aim" to be left-wing, that's just how I roll. If I had a view that was to the right, so be it. I usually subscribe to just whatever I feel is the fairest, most sensible stance. I don't wish to be any type of "ist" (e.g. I'm not a feminist - just want to see fairness in relation to both genders).
    I get irritated by people who are so keen to be aligned with a particular ideology that they'll stick rigidly to their "side" at all times - right or left, no matter how unreasonable it sometimes can be (e.g. people on the right blatantly refusing to acknowledge how sh1t Palestinians are treated for fear of supporting a pinko cause; or how people on the left defend barbaric practices on the basis of them being another "culture").


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Cynical.:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    Cyclical


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    I am usually right.


    hehe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,565 ✭✭✭southsiderosie


    Dudess wrote: »
    Vast majority of my views default to the left but I don't "aim" to be left-wing, that's just how I roll. If I had a view that was to the right, so be it. I usually subscribe to just whatever I feel is the fairest, most sensible stance. I don't wish to be any type of "ist" (e.g. I'm not a feminist - just want to see fairness in relation to both genders).
    I get irritated by people who are so keen to be aligned with a particular ideology that they'll stick rigidly to their "side" at all times - right or left, no matter how unreasonable it sometimes can be (e.g. people on the right blatantly refusing to acknowledge how sh1t Palestinians are treated for fear of supporting a pinko cause; or how people on the left defend barbaric practices on the basis of them being another "culture").

    Hmm. Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    I don't really have a leaning.. if you lean too far in any direction you'll fall over. I tend to be a contrarian regarding populist ideas


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    Pauleta wrote: »
    There are a lot of left wing loons around Boards, dont notice too many far right people. Im a down the middle man. I hate the far left and far right but find it strange why the far left is more socially acceptable.

    I'm always a bit suspicious when people claim to be 'down the middle'. Especially when they simultaneously make a tedious remark about 'left wing loons' and bemoan the notion that the far left is more 'socially acceptable' than the far right.

    I'm pretty left-leaning on most issues, but I don't think I could ever join a party. I find political parties of all shades equally annoying in subtly different ways. And members have a tendency to adopt a football-team-supporting approach to politics. I'd hate to turn into one of those Judean People's Front types.

    (fucking splitters)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    I don't hidebound myself as left-wing (given the lifestyleisms, paradoxes and internecine silliness therein) but nearly all my social views and my empathies would certainly fall very squarely in the pinko hand-wringer category.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,925 ✭✭✭th3 s1aught3r


    Sharkey 10 wrote: »
    I just wanted to get an idea of the political leanings of board menmbers and see if there is common ground or are we quite diverse . Are you the member of a party? Are you happy with the leadership of that party? etc

    Personally I would probably be left leaning and have a liberal way of thinking about things and quite socialist on many things, allot of my beliefs are probably quite un popular and i have noticed this on boards.
    I have noticed a lot of things said on boards that I would drastically disagree with.
    I am not the member of any party and do not support any party in particular .
    I find them to be all trying to be totally populist(not sure if thats the right phrase) and not willing to try anything that may ruffle a few feathers of the people in the upper echelons of this society. Even with the situation we know find our selves in they remain far too conservative for my liking.

    National Socialism


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    Was quite left wing in my younger days, and still harbour some of those ideals but the older I get and the more I see in life, the more I move towards the right. Its more out of viewing it as the only real way to quickly fix a society going down the pan in a blaze of overly pc nonsense though.

    Tear it down, set the ground rules again except with vicious penalties for things like we've seen destroy ireland, and gradually relax things when people prove they're able to use their own cop on


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭Stained Class


    I'm an active member of the FG party.

    Have been for a good number of years too.

    Even as a kid I could see that Haughey & his gombeen mates were self serving gob****es.

    I couldn't fathom how so many people in this country voted for them.:confused:

    Anyhoo,I, at the earliest available oppertunity joined the organisation that could have the best chance of getting these gits out of power.

    Personally, I'd be quite straitforward in my views, right wing, if you like.

    I think there's far too much energy wasted in pandering to loudmouthed pressure groups with their own vacuous agendas.

    Time to find out what the great silent majority(i.e the people too busy to get involved in nonsensical pressure groups) have to say about the state of things & how they would like to change things.

    POWER TO THE silent PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,039 ✭✭✭Seloth


    Honestly after hour is the most idiotic place too discuss politics because the majority dont have a clue what they are on about or what is truely going on in this country...with many atually believing the current government is litrally sitting around twidling their thumbs..feckin eejits.

    Yet then again many of these people assume they are the intellectual elite..but more so just join the top.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,925 ✭✭✭th3 s1aught3r


    Seloth wrote: »
    Honestly after hour is the most idiotic place too discuss politics because the majority dont have a clue what they are on about or what is truely going on in this country....

    Dont we ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,129 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    I'm an active member of the FG party.

    Have been for a good number of years too.

    Even as a kid I could see that Haughey & his gombeen mates were self serving gob****es.

    I couldn't fathom how so many people in this country voted for them.:confused:

    Anyhoo,I, at the earliest available oppertunity joined the organisation that could have the best chance of getting these gits out of power.

    Personally, I'd be quite straitforward in my views, right wing, if you like.

    I think there's far too much energy wasted in pandering to loudmouthed pressure groups with their own vacuous agendas.

    Time to find out what the great silent majority(i.e the people too busy to get involved in nonsensical pressure groups) have to say about the state of things & how they would like to change things.

    POWER TO THE silent PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I can't see an awful lot of difference between FF or FG gombeens, because they all seem to share the same shallow gene-pool.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,039 ✭✭✭Seloth


    Dont we ?

    People have the idea if they dont see it or hear it,then it dosent happen,despite the constant work that goes on in the background.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭Stained Class


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    I can't see an awful lot of difference between FF or FG gombeens, because they all seem to share the same shallow gene-pool.

    Really. Why?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    I have no interest in membership of any political party, to do so merely constrains you into a failed political system. I just don't do party policies, but I can lean to the Right or Left depending on the issue at hand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,565 ✭✭✭southsiderosie


    POWER TO THE silent PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Silent people don't get power. That's not how power works.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,236 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    I'm sorely tempted to start my own new part called the Sensible party. Only those with brain cells will be allowed join, thus automatically excluding ~150 of our 166 TD's and about two thirds of senators.

    No closed shops, 100% transparent, 100% fair, well thought out, well balanced, and most critically important of all well planned political party.





    Oh look, flying pigs.

    Never in Ireland. Pity too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭Stained Class


    Silent people don't get power. That's not how power works.

    In some ways true alright, but the loud ones can tend or need to be voted in by a lot of silent people sometimes.

    If that makes sense...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭-Trek-


    I like to lean towards the left ..... right up against the radiator.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,565 ✭✭✭southsiderosie


    In some ways true alright, but the loud ones can tend or need to be voted in by a lot of silent people sometimes.

    If that makes sense...

    I see what you are saying, but voting for someone and having them actually represent your interests are two separate matters. The squeaky wheel gets the grease, especially when there are limited resources. Why do you think seniors are less likely to get their benefits cut than any other group in society? Because they raise the most fuss, call their representatives, and take to the streets when any of their entitlements are threatened. Whereas young people make Facebook groups. :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Absurdum wrote: »
    most people here are lefty students who have no idea about the real world

    runs away
    Yeah but there are some here too who take a really hardline right-wing stance and don't seem to have any idea about the real world either.

    Also, being mostly left-wing doesn't mean automatically being PC - I generally have no time for political correctness (well political correctness as I see it - walking on eggshells so as not to offend anyone; the original tenets of it though are something I'm very much in agreement with. Ditto feminism - in the western world anyway).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭Stained Class


    I see what you are saying, but voting for someone and having them actually represent your interests are two separate matters. The squeaky wheel gets the grease, especially when there are limited resources. Why do you think seniors are less likely to get their benefits cut than any other group in society? Because they raise the most fuss, call their representatives, and take to the streets when any of their entitlements are threatened. Whereas young people make Facebook groups. :rolleyes:

    Of course. I see what you are saying.

    Im in FG. I outlined why, but I'm not telling anybody that the're the answer to our problems or anything..

    You're right about the Seniors. They're retired & thusly have the time to organise & protest.

    It's the same with young people. They often have no commitments & can go on Animal Rights/Gay Pride etc etc...things

    I'm 42, married, mortaged, working, have kids & have all the commitments that go with that.

    Can I take days off to go on protests/demos/marches for this that & the other?

    Can I fook?

    This is my point about there being a great silent majority in this country really..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,554 ✭✭✭✭alwaysadub


    Trekmad wrote: »
    I like to lean towards the left ..... right up against the radiator.

    Don't burn yourself!!:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 199 ✭✭flanno_7hi


    Silent people don't get power. That's not how power works.
    What about the ninjas?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    I am far right of centre.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Sharkey 10 wrote: »
    Are you the member of a party? Are you happy with the leadership of that party? etc

    The... party. With the... with the pants. Party with pants?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Stinicker wrote: »
    I am far right of centre.

    Yes, mein Furher.


  • Registered Users Posts: 199 ✭✭flanno_7hi


    Would class myself as a nationalist however SF's "economic policy" puts me off them. Think both FF and FG are both the same, Labour are the ultimate sell outs and the greens, who i voted for previously, also sold out so i will never vote for them again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭Stained Class


    I have no interest in membership of any political party, to do so merely constrains you into a failed political system. I just don't do party policies, but I can lean to the Right or Left depending on the issue at hand.

    I think that's a cop out really.

    Believe in nothing & everything will sort itself out right?

    Wrong.

    I don't pretend I know all the answers, but the system hasn't failed us.

    The people who operate in it have.......shamefully!

    Operate within the system, keep your head down & make yourself indespensible.

    That's the way to make a real differance.;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    Yes, mein Furher.

    I do not support Nazism but find myself further right than those on the centre right for instance. I am about 75% right.

    To be a total Far Right Nazi is actually to be an extreme leftist as the Nazi's were National Socialists with all the trappings of Communism for Germans only, you were equal so long as you were blue eyed and blonde.

    It may be difficult to get your head around but the vast majority of the Worlds evil has come from those subscribing to Marxist works, Stalin killed more people in Russia than died in WWII and China has killed millions also to keep left-wing dictatorships alive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,089 ✭✭✭ascanbe


    I'm open; at least i try to be. I just try and use my own head/brain; i try to ensure that my only guiding light is rationality.
    I'm aware enough, i think, to realise that my current understanding of rationale or my current take on it is not a set thing; i'd like to think that i'd give serious thought to any opposing point that contradicts my thinking.
    The only thing that irritates me is when people try and preempt anyone who diagrees with their stance, by proclaiming they are pinko/liberals or close-minded/racist/bigots.
    I try to argue any issue on its merits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,089 ✭✭✭ascanbe


    Stinicker wrote: »
    I do not support Nazism but find myself further right than those on the centre right for instance. I am about 75% right.

    To be a total Far Right Nazi is actually to be an extreme leftist as the Nazi's were National Socialists with all the trappings of Communism for Germans only, you were equal so long as you were blue eyed and blonde.

    It may be difficult to get your head around but the vast majority of the Worlds evil has come from those subscribing to Marxist works, Stalin killed more people in Russia than died in WWII and China has killed millions also to keep left-wing dictatorships alive.

    Forget about left/right..blah blah blah.
    What all those people/regimes you mention have in common is being fundamentalist, un-democratic, phscyotic nut-jobs.
    Not anything to allign one's self with; unless you have a new persuasive argument.

    Edit: In light of my previous comment, i want to emphasise that i'm open to persuasion. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,973 ✭✭✭RayM


    Stinicker wrote: »
    To be a total Far Right Nazi is actually to be an extreme leftist as the Nazi's were National Socialists with all the trappings of Communism for Germans only, you were equal so long as you were blue eyed and blonde.

    With respect, that's bollocks. Not by any stretch of the imagination (even the right-wing imagination) is being a total Far Right Nazi tantamount to being an extreme leftist. Equating National Socialism with 'leftism' is little more than a lazy, Godwinian trick, carried out by the type of far-right crazies who seek not to simply disassociate themselves from Nazism, but to erroneously smear others with the Hitler brush.

    "Hitler was a National Socialist"
    "Hitler was evil"
    "Therefore Socialism is evil"

    This, of course, was the same Adolf Hitler who claimed that Marxism "systematically plans to hand the world over to the Jews."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    ascanbe wrote: »
    Forget about left/right..blah blah blah.
    What all those people/regimes you mention have in common is being fundamentalist, un-democratic, phscyotic nut-jobs.
    Not anything to allign one's self with; unless you have a new persuasive argument.

    Edit: In light of my previous comment, i want to emphasise that i'm open to persuasion. ;)

    Yep, Stalinism wasn't Marxism or Communism.

    Apparently I'm a liberal leftist like Gandhi:

    The Political Compass - Test

    Personally, I'd say a social democrat.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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