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The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey

  • 16-10-2010 12:49pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,949 ✭✭✭✭


    Not a cruel late / early April Fools joke thankfully!
    The announcement, made jointly by New Line president and COO Toby Emmerich, Warner Bros. president and COO Alan Horn, and MGM co-CEO Steve Cooper, says the "the two films based on 'The Hobbit' are now greenlit and will begin principal photography in February 2011, under the direction of Peter Jackson."

    The announcement does not mean, however, that the labor issue acting as a hurdle for the production has been resolved. And it's the resolution of that dispute which will determine where the movie will shoot.

    The dispute lies between Jackson and an array of unions, including New Zealand Actors’ Equity and SAG. A “do not work” order is in place on the production, which has refused to recognize union jurisdiction for local actors. Discussions in New Zealand are being facilitated by that country’s government, with little progress reported to date. SAG would not comment on whether it is involved in negotiations.

    If the movie does not shoot in New Zealand, the country where Jackson made his "Lord of the Rings" trilogy, the filmmaker said Warners are looking at five different locales around the world to host the project.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Fantastic news.

    I can't believe its 11 years ago to the month that LOTR started principle photography. It doesn't feel that long.

    Not sure how I feel about it being shot on digital 3D cameras. I prefer film to digital but I'm sure they will try to get the look as similar to LOTR as possible.

    I'm sure we will hear casting news very soon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,200 ✭✭✭Mindkiller


    I'd have preferred to see what Del Toro's interpretation of Middle Earth would have been like.

    Still, I can't wait to see what Peter Jackson will do with the Hobbit.
    I just hope he remembers that The Hobbit is meant to be a little more upbeat than LOTR. No-one wants a grimdark one out of this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Mindkiller wrote: »
    I'd have preferred to see what Del Toro's interpretation of Middle Earth would have been like.

    Del Toro was one of the writers on the script so there will at least be some part of the films with his stamp on them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43 Limerick3


    What connection does this have to LOTR? Other then the director obviously..


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    Bilbo?


    The Ring?

    Gandalf?


    Middle-earth?

    Um.... you have read the book, right? :)


    DeV.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 558 ✭✭✭Kazuma


    It really looks like I'm the only person who isn't so keen on Jackson doing the Hobbit...

    The only thing I saw in LOTR was big ass battles, everything else just seemed like filler...

    So depressing, no doubt the spider scene will turn into an "epic battle", the goblin scene will turn into an "epic battle", etc, etc.

    So while I will reserve a tiny amount of hope that he will get it right (different tone, different pace, different story to LOTR - also, better) I really have a terrible terrible feeling about this :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Limerick3 wrote: »
    What connection does this have to LOTR? Other then the director obviously..

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hobbit


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭TonyD79


    What connection does this have to LOTR? Other then the director obviously..


    Does the title of the film not give away the connection???:rolleyes:

    Also I dont know how you can anyone can complain about Jackson directing it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Excellent news indeed :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Heard James Nesbitt is moving to New Zealand after being offered a major role in this.


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    I'm reading a book called "Strain" at the moment; it's written by Chuck Hogan with Guillermo del Toro's name attached - on his biography it says "He will direct two films based on The Hobbit, to be produced by Peter Jackson".

    Ha, kinda sickening that it changed probably a few weeks after the book was published.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭jpm4


    Kazuma wrote: »
    It really looks like I'm the only person who isn't so keen on Jackson doing the Hobbit...

    The only thing I saw in LOTR was big ass battles, everything else just seemed like filler...

    So depressing, no doubt the spider scene will turn into an "epic battle", the goblin scene will turn into an "epic battle", etc, etc.

    So while I will reserve a tiny amount of hope that he will get it right (different tone, different pace, different story to LOTR - also, better) I really have a terrible terrible feeling about this :(

    I see where you're coming from but I think you are being harsh...the films are only Jackson's interpretations of the books at the end of the day. Those films are aimed at the popcorn munching public and not high brow book types so it's no surprise that the battles are going to be emphasised. Anyways, the Spider scene is an "epic battle" :)

    Am really looking forward to this....The Hobbit has a special place in my heart and I think it could actually translate far more easily to the big screen than LOTR. I just hope Smaug is done well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Nice, I didn't get to appreciate the LOTR films in the cinema so this will be a nice compensation.

    Eurgh, though cue the merchandise overload everywhere!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    I hope this is done right, I'd also love to hear Christopher Lee voice Smaug!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭me-skywalker


    Limerick3 wrote: »
    What connection does this have to LOTR? Other then the director obviously..

    Oh dear... Oh dear....


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,434 ✭✭✭Lamper.sffc


    Great news. ill be counting the days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Martin Freeman is in talks to play Bilbo.
    James Nesbitt will be playing Bofur, one of the dwarves.
    Sylvester McCoy is tipped to be Radagast.
    Michael Fassbender and David Tennet are rumored to be up for roles too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,949 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Martin Freeman is in talks to play Bilbo.
    I'm pretty sure that fell apart, due to committments with the BBC's 'Sherlock'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    basquille wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure that fell apart, due to committments with the BBC's 'Sherlock'

    Trying to see if they can jig the schedule to fit both The Hobbit and Sherlock I think.

    http://www.metro.co.uk/film/843612-sherlocks-martin-freeman-i-still-want-to-star-in-the-hobbit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    Stick to British actors - adds authenticity

    hopefully not some flavour of the month douchebag like that guy from transformers and the hideous indiana jones

    If Jackson stays commited and doesn't produce tooo broad a film (like avatar) then this could be very good

    I never forget reading about Lord of the Rings trilogy being made for the first time and immediately thinking how some douche would screw it up.. but then discovering the amount of detail and thought and depth going into the film.. was great to see them turn out so good


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Kazuma wrote: »
    It really looks like I'm the only person who isn't so keen on Jackson doing the Hobbit...

    The only thing I saw in LOTR was big ass battles, everything else just seemed like filler...

    So depressing, no doubt the spider scene will turn into an "epic battle", the goblin scene will turn into an "epic battle", etc, etc.

    So while I will reserve a tiny amount of hope that he will get it right (different tone, different pace, different story to LOTR - also, better) I really have a terrible terrible feeling about this :(
    I'm kind of the same. I honestly don't rate Jackson as that great a director. He has his moments, but I'd have prefered Del Toro to do it.

    Plus, The Hobbit and Lord Of The Rings are fairly different in how they play out. As said above, The Hobbit is more upbeat and LOTR is fairly grim. I'd have thought that two different directors would emphasis that difference a little better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,203 ✭✭✭maximoose


    have heard that Aidan Turner is lined up to play Fili and Kili


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,200 ✭✭✭Mindkiller


    You have to wonder how the ring will be represented in this film. It's inevitable that it will have a greater significance attached to it now that it did in the book (which came out 2 decades before LOTR).

    I just hope they don't dwell on it too much. I don't remember it being a vital plot piece, just a handy way to accelerate the plot.

    If Jackson tries his best to make this a family-friendly PG film, I think he'll manage to capture the charm and magic of the Hobbit rather well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,949 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    I do think two movies on it is a big excessive.. must be the studios out-in-force ($$$$$$).

    It's a 300 page book for fecks sake.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,236 ✭✭✭Sanjuro


    Wasn't David Tennant up for Bilbo too? I like Tennant, but Bilbo must be played by Martin Freeman. He's absolutely perfect for the role. Unfortunately, I'm not holding out much home for it. The second season of Sherlock is due in November 2011, which means the filming will probably take place at the end of spring, start of summer 2011. Probably too much of a clash with The Hobbit for Freeman to do both.

    Never the less, glad it's Jackson. As much as I'd like to see a Del Toro Hobbit film, the continuity of Jackson Hobbit and Rings will be the most important thing. Very interested in seeing what role Michael Fassbender is rumoured for.


  • Registered Users Posts: 188 ✭✭dmaxontour


    humanji wrote: »
    I'm kind of the same. I honestly don't rate Jackson as that great a director. He has his moments, but I'd have prefered Del Toro to do it.

    I'd be the same, although I just watched The Lovely Bones by Jackson and really enjoyed it. I thought he did a great job.

    For LOTR, there were lots of bits in Jackson's version where I kept thinking how I prefered the scene the way Ralph Bakshi (sp?) did it... like the end of the battle at the end of the Two Towers.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,732 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Hate to be the bearer of bad news

    http://www.movieweb.com/news/NExDMlYlP6MKBD


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,949 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Dyflin wrote: »
    Hate to be the bearer of bad news

    http://www.movieweb.com/news/NExDMlYlP6MKBD
    Well... balls!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    basquille wrote: »
    I do think two movies on it is a big excessive.. must be the studios out-in-force ($$$$$$).

    It's a 300 page book for fecks sake.


    By November 2008, he (Del Toro) acknowledged that the book was more detailed and eventful than people may remember.[64] He decided to abandon the "bridge film" concept, feeling that it would be better for the two films to contain only material from The Hobbit:

    "When you lay out [...] the story beats contained within the book (before even considering any apendix [sic] material) the work is enormous and encompasses more than one film. That's why we are thinking of the TWO INSTALLMENTS as parts of a single NARRATIVE. That's why I keep putting down the use of a "bridge" film (posited initially). I think the concept as such is not relevant anymore. I believe that the narrative and characters are rich enough to fit in TWO films.[65]}}


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hobbit_film_project#Structure

    If I remember correctly, its been a few years since I read it, but a lot of stuff that happens in the book is only touched on briefly, like the Battle Of Five Armies where Bilbo gets knocked out and when he wakes up its all over.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    maximoose wrote: »
    have heard that Aidan Turner is lined up to play Fili and Kili

    Interesting, where'd you hear that from?


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