The Prince of Burma appreciation thread

sting60

pudzy wrote: »

sting60, i no you said master milan would win over 3m, but on soft ground today, i took a chance and backed him with killyglen 15/8 and master milan 11/8 made me nice double.. cheers

Backed him but this is the real deal.2M 5F on the softest track in the UK.As you know he was withdrawn out of the stiffest track in the UK Carlisle,WATCH THIS HORSE.Didnt have a big bet on him.Will post another 2yr old shortly unnamed but by Lord Nelson.He has beaten a listed winner three times in a row in a full workout.Listed winner has an entry in the 2,000 guineas.

UrbanSea

Sting do you reckon Master Milan is much ahead of his mark

sting60

UrbanSea wrote: »

Sting do you reckon Master Milan is much ahead of his mark

Yes he hated the ground yesterday and got a fright when that fell beside him.I found it strange bringing him to Ffos Llas.Watched the rugby with a few friends polished off rest of the gargle and missed Tombi at Wolves 20/1.Cleaning up the house war office is back at five.Found at winning ticket stuck in the couch a month old.Ready for Utd now.

UrbanSea

That's a lovely feeling getting money you didn't think you had

sting60

Going through some of the races at Cheltenham the race I have taken two out of is the Triumph.Davy Condon on mullins horse was miles back and ran on but the one horse I will back at Aintree in 4yr old hurdle is Dodging Bullets.He did not stay the extra furlong up the hill and will be a different horse at Aintree.

mr.jingle

Is there any worse feeling in not looking at your horse tracker and then realise you missed an 11/1(My Murphy@Navan yesterday) winner :mad: The one day i don't look up my e-mails! Typical

Nulty

mr.jingle wrote: »

Is there any worse feeling in not looking at your horse tracker and then realise you missed an 11/1(My Murphy@Navan yesterday) winner :mad: The one day i don't look up my e-mails! Typical

I still remember missing a horse at Leopardstown who won at 20/1 and in my tracker i had the note "back next time at Leopardstown". I was in Manchester for the weekend in October 2010 when this happened. Raging! The horse is a Leopardstown specialist and was well handicapped. I'll try find the name now.

Nulty

Barack was the name, SP was 16/1

Goldcupfav

sting60 wrote: »

Sorry about that ,was told tonight tha horse was coughing after the race.Im told this horse is top class he travelled so well then ,bang nothing.Watch all his horses from now on.Wright this horse in your book big time.

@sting60...Un Ami goes the the bumper at Chepstow tomorrow. Should be a decent price.

ste2010

Anyone know what the deal is with satellite yards? I know rock on ruby wasn't trained in ditcheat but do we know the reasoning behind it?
It's a bit deceiving when the registered trainer isn't the trainer..reason I ask is one thing I look at specifically with low grade races is has a trainer travelled a good but to get to the course for 1 horse..

Prime example of one horse travelling a good bit for one race...spirit of adjisa in punches town last year (even though that wasn't a low grade race)

Goldcupfav

Goldcupfav wrote: »

@sting60...Un Ami goes the the bumper at Chepstow tomorrow. Should be a decent price.

Hope your right about this Un Ami sting60. Plenty of money around today gone from 12's to 7's already. Got a small bit matched at 16 on bf last night. Plus got some of the 12's early doors this morning.

Hulk Hands

I go on the Racing Post website and all I see is flat racing news stories staring back at me. It's still march like, feck off flat for another while!

ste2010

Hulk Hands wrote: »

I go on the Racing Post website and all I see is flat racing news stories staring back at me. It's still march like, feck off flat for another while!

I think the problem is we are let down by the big gap after Cheltenham and there's nothing really going on except flat business until fairyhouse and aintree...the Brits should step up to the mark an close that gap!! Completely agree, the only thing it does for me is increase the build up for punch and aintree

sting60

Start of the flat in England and two I like for today.Mont Ras in the first goes well fresh and a big open track should suit his style of running.Bannock in the second is very well in with his weight for age allowance.He ran very well last time out from a bad draw and is race fit.

UrbanSea

Lads something that's annoying me. Who is the Irish jockey who retired the other week citing lack of opportunities for group wins as his reason? I know it and it's driving me mad, not Pat Shanahan

Huntley

UrbanSea wrote: »

Lads something that's annoying me. Who is the Irish jockey who retired the other week citing lack of opportunities for group wins as his reason? I know it and it's driving me mad, not Pat Shanahan

Willie Supple retired recently but he is a flat jockey.

UrbanSea

That's it, I knew it was a flat jockey, he hadn't ridden a winner since November I think

ste2010

Oliver Brady has run imperial shabra 24 times in the past year..everywhere you look imperial shabra is there..he must pay some dollars on the petrol

sting60

The 17.45 Thurles is a very strange race in that a horse I like Dog Barrel Hill has to give Berties Dream 5lb[allowance not included] yet is rated 36lb inferior.Why woul a trainer enter his horse under these conditions.If you win and beat Berties Dream or Dancing Tornado you will be murdered or finish within a country mile of either will get hit.There are loads of races for the likes of Dog Barrel Hill to run in and yet this race was picked.There is no way I can back him and yet his is ready to win a small race.

Slattsy

sting60 wrote: »

The 17.45 Thurles is a very strange race in that a horse I like Dog Barrel Hill has to give Berties Dream 5lb[allowance not included] yet is rated 36lb inferior.Why woul a trainer enter his horse under these conditions.If you win and beat Berties Dream or Dancing Tornado you will be murdered or finish within a country mile of either will get hit.There are loads of races for the likes of Dog Barrel Hill to run in and yet this race was picked.There is no way I can back him and yet his is ready to win a small race.

I see your point. My take on it is that they're simply going for a day out. Using the race as a schooling session.

Berties Dream is expected to win today.

UrbanSea

Think I'll back Bertie's Dream today, sneaky fiver on Dark Raven in the 3 mile maiden

sting60

Slattsy wrote: »

I see your point. My take on it is that they're simply going for a day out. Using the race as a schooling session.

Berties Dream is expected to win today.

Firstly Bertie was to run at Cheltenham but was withdrawn after his poor run at Navan where he was backed.He bled after the race and I heard nothing for today.Secondly Dog Barrel Hill could have run in his own grade ,finish down the field and be dropped ,could run similar race today and be put up in the ratings??

Slattsy

sting60 wrote: »

Slattsy wrote: »

I see your point. My take on it is that they're simply going for a day out. Using the race as a schooling session.

Berties Dream is expected to win today.

Firstly Bertie was to run at Cheltenham but was withdrawn after his poor run at Navan where he was backed.He bled after the race and I heard nothing for today.Secondly Dog Barrel Hill could have run in his own grade ,finish down the field and be dropped ,could run similar race today and be put up in the ratings??

Sure it depends how far he's beaten... Better for his rating to get absolutely stuffed in better race than be beaten say 8 lengths in a worse race.
I guess they're trying to sneak under the radar with him.

Huntley

sting60 wrote: »

The 17.45 Thurles is a very strange race in that a horse I like Dog Barrel Hill has to give Berties Dream 5lb[allowance not included] yet is rated 36lb inferior.

It is pointless comparing marks when Dog Barrel Hill has not run in open company over hurdles before.

sting60

Slattsy wrote: »

Sure it depends how far he's beaten... Better for his rating to get absolutely stuffed in better race than be beaten say 8 lengths in a worse race.
I guess they're trying to sneak under the radar with him.

A question was posted by Urban on this issue.In my opinion it is far better to get beaten 8l in your grade than to finish down the field in a far better race.The handicapper will look at every horses finishing position in every race.Lets take the much better race and if an average horse is beaten 30l by a top rated horse and finishes 8/8 he will then look to the next horse in 7th and rate accordingly if he deems the horse finishing last ran to his mark or above.That is why some horses may get a 1lb rise for finishing down the field.He may well take into account the winning time and the standard of the race.On the other hand if that average horse runs 8l of the winner in his own grade again he will look at the proximity of the other rated horses.Listening to Noel O Brien he usually says "I handicap horses according to certain conditions" he never says what these conditions are but its all about his perception of a race.So Im sure none of us trying to judge a handicap mark for a horse is totally right or wrong[its our perception of what we see].If this looks like crap it probable is.

sting60

Huntley wrote: »

It is pointless comparing marks when Dog Barrel Hill has not run in open company over hurdles before.

It is not pointless comparing marks for this race.the bookies see the highest rated as 6/4 and Dog Barrel Hill 33/1.If DBH were to win he would go up at least 16lb if DBH were to win in his grade he would go up nothing like that[he would win in his grade].As I print 33/1 -16/1[Paddy Power].If this was a young unexposed horse you would be correct but he is eight and the horse he beat could not win off 92[Castlerock rose]runs today 18.45.

UrbanSea

Non runner now anyway

Slattsy

Shrapnel trades at 1/4 in running and gets ****ing beaten. Can't ****ing believe that the useless ****ing ****.

Yes he was the last leg of my treble lol
**** it.

Thank God I gave up cursing for lent.

Pinesky

Anyone see 5.30 Sedgefield yesterday Kielan Woods on No No Charlie seemingly very confident , took a look behind and in the driving wind/rain/sleet/snow promptly fell off . Well worth a look on ATR or such

UrbanSea

Was wondering where that horse finished. Irishracing doesn't even mention it in the race report http://www.irishracing.com/results/v5result051201204031730.htm

But when you type in its name you get the race report with him in it
http://www.irishracing.com/v5rhfinfo?prc=051&prd=201204031730

sting60

What a day .Went for a pint to the racing pub was told a horse in the 17.10 Folkestone will win but is nervous at the start.Backed him and then a horse gets loose finishes 2nd[watch race].Then word from Clonmel is that O Grady said that Headford Flyer will jump them silly,last two fences omitted because of the sun ,finished 2nd.Bad day.Have a look at the Grand National site.

sting60

UrbanSea wrote: »

Non runner now anyway

Urban back Giles Cross for the National,dont ask.

Slattsy

Off to Galway for a stag lads, don't miss me too much

Slattsy

Wrecked Galway.
No early houses, not happy with that.

UrbanSea

Nathan Cook looks to be hurt after a fall at Ffos Las. Went down and got a really bad kicking by the looks of it. He hadn't moved within about 20 seconds hope he's alright.

UrbanSea

Still hasn't moved. Doesn't sound good, fingers crossed

Slattsy

Shows how lucky Ruby was yesterday. Let me know of any update. Cheers.

UrbanSea

Still being treated. Might be a delay for the next race

UrbanSea

Anyone see Soumillon on Dabirsim there? Sickened him, he sat there, literally looked around about 5 times cruising. All of a sudden sees Dragon Pules coming at him, done on the line.


Nathan has been airlifted to hospital, but as a precaution. Has been talking and moving, was knocked out for two minutes, going for an MRI scan but think it looks good.

UrbanSea

Anyone see the filly win the first race at Dundalk?? A mile maiden won by 18 lengths

thesandeman

Didnt see it but had it backed thanks to Gary O Brien.

mr.jingle

UrbanSea wrote: »

Anyone see the filly win the first race at Dundalk?? A mile maiden won by 18 lengths

Was watching it with my dad and he said just coming to the top of the bend that horse in front is going quite well don't ya think, I turned to him and said ah sure what's she got left in the tank as they crossed the line he looked at me and said i think she's got plenty left in the tank Hate when the oulad's right!

Impressive winner all the same reminded me of Ernest Hemingway's win last week the way they quickened away from the field under very much hands and heels riding. Two very promising horses and certainly one for the tracker

the groutch

anyone know does the flat jockey's championship actually finish on Nov 4th @ Leopardstown, or is the a later finishing date up in Dundalk?

Juwwi

the groutch wrote: »

anyone know does the flat jockey's championship actually finish on Nov 4th @ Leopardstown, or is the a later finishing date up in Dundalk?

Im pretty sure it finishes at Dundalk.

Huntley

It was quite fascinating to see a skewbald run at Hexham today. I wouldn't be in favour of seeing this trend emerge but it is an interesting concept.

Angrove Rumbaba


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ft9

Huntley wrote: »

It was quite fascinating to see a skewbald run at Hexham today. I wouldn't be in favour of seeing this trend emerge but it is an interesting concept.

Why would you not be in favour?

Huntley

ft9 wrote: »

Why would you not be in favour?

I would like to see the thoroughbred be kept as pure as possible.

Nulty

Are they vegetable? Are they some other form of uncategorised food?

I'm sure you've all been at the carvery and been asked if you want vegetables:

"Yes I'll have the lot"

"Potatoes?"

"*huh?* I said yes, the lot...."

They come in too many forms aswell, mashed, boiled, roast, shallow fry, deep fried, chips.

Varieties? Yup!

Rooster, Kerrs Pink, Records, Golden Wonder, New potatoes, sweet potatoes, potatoes with the dirt still on them...

Theres a potato head, potato gun, couch potato, you can even make a battery out of a potato.

Is it just Oirish paopel what ate der taters an' not what for cal 'em veggietables?

(In the style of Peter Kay)

Whats that all abuuut?

milehip1

exactly what's all that abuuut indeed?

UnitedIrishman

What goes up must come down Nulty!