Rooney not signing a new contract?

steelcityblues

ntlbell wrote: »

yorkie to sunderland? :pac:

Nicolas Anelka and Craig Bellamy's whole careers!

ntlbell

steelcityblues wrote: »

Nicolas Anelka and Craig Bellamy's whole careers!

cardiff is lovley :pac:

and bolton do peas with their chips!

keane2097

Nani's better than Rooney anyway imo.

steelcityblues

ntlbell wrote: »

cardiff is lovley :pac:

and bolton do peas with their chips!

By their club count alone, they do embody the word mercenary tho!

Pro. F

The Muppet wrote: »

That's why Robinho signed for City instead of Chelsea Yeah.:eek:

That proves nothing. Players are influenced by money and other factors, like potential success and location. I don't know why you are trying to deny this.

MIN2511

keane2097 wrote: »

Nani's better than Rooney anyway imo.

Joking right?

The Muppet

Thanx 4 The Fish wrote: »

Well it says a lot about you I suppose. You said all footballers are motivated by money. You have been proven already once to be speaking from your nether regions and you laugh. Good lad, I suppose it could have been nervous laughter, ya know, embarassed at being so easily found out. :rolleyes:

It say's more about you that you're arguing that footballers primary motivation is not money.

Have a nice evening.:D

The Muppet

Pro. F wrote: »

That proves nothing. Players are influenced by money and other factors, like potential success and location. I don't know why you are trying to deny this.

Primary Motivation is money it can circumvent all other consideration as per the example I gave.

pavb2

Do we know why he doesn't want to re-sign,is it money? fall out with Fergie? Or does he simply want to get out of UK away from press etc?

If it's the latter try and salvage marriage,new start etc I wouldn't blame him

Pro. F

The Muppet wrote: »

Primary Motivation is money it can circumvent all other consideration as per the example I gave.

Yes I agree it's the primary motivation. In a lot of cases anyway.

If you'd said that in the first place I wouldn't have disagreed with you. But you said something quite different.

The Muppet wrote: »

They are swayed by one thing and one thing only, Money, end of.

MisterAnarchy

flahavaj wrote: »

So whats your point?

United do spend money or United don't?

Or does it really matter as long as you get to have a good aul rant about United.

Seize the day baby.

My point is that they pay well over the odds for limited players and unproven players .

ntlbell

Pro. F wrote: »

Yes I agree it's the primary motivation. In a lot of cases anyway.

If you'd said that in the first place I wouldn't have disagreed with you. But you said something quite different.

Are you doing this on purpose?

If the right amount of money can make a player disregard, everything else

then everything is money?

everyone has a price.

flahavaj

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

My point is that they pay well over the odds for limited players and unproven players .

So why are you banging on about them not buying world class players these days when according you they've never done so?

Pro. F

ntlbell wrote: »

Are you doing this on purpose?

If the right amount of money can make a player disregard, everything else

then everything is money?

everyone has a price.

To say that things like location and prospects of success aren't a factor is nonsense. Of course money is a big factor I'm not denying that.

ntlbell

Pro. F wrote: »

To say that things like location and prospects of success aren't a factor is nonsense. Of course money is a big factor I'm not denying that.

They can be, all things equal. But when it's not E.G. one is offering more money, they can over ride everything else if the money is big enough.

there goes, money is the be all and end all as it can override everything else.

christ all mighty.

Thanx 4 The Fish

The Muppet wrote: »

Primary Motivation is money it can circumvent all other consideration as per the example I gave.

That is not what you said though. Perhaps you should read some of the claptrap you come out with, then you could defend it without having to shift the goalposts.

MisterAnarchy

flahavaj wrote: »

So why are you banging on about them not buying world class players these days when according you they've never done so?

Because alot of United players came through the youth team .
Top class players like Scholes,Giggs,Beckham .
They arent coming through anymore .
Van Der Sar,Giggs and Scholes will be gone in 12 months time ,there are no replacements.
You cant keep relying on buying unproven players and hoping they will be world class and you also cant buy attacking midfielders and try to convert them into defensive midfielders (something Ferguson has been consistently guilty of doing over the last 5 years )
There are times when you need to go out and buy a few big proven world class players if you expect to be the "Biggest" club in the world .

ntlbell

Why does every thread here require play ground explanations

"Hai, i want success, sun and the womenz."

Rea:, we have it all 50k a week.

Chelsea, no sun here, suchess womenz and 100k a week

Bolton, no sun no women no success. 250k a week.

"I hear peter kay is funny!!"

flahavaj

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Because alot of United players came through the youth team .
Top class players like Scholes,Giggs,Beckham .
They arent coming through anymore .
Van Der Sar,Giggs and Scholes will be gone in 12 months time ,there are no replacements.
You cant keep relying on buying unproven players and hoping they will be world class and you also cant buy attacking midfielders and try to convert them into defensive midfielders (something Ferguson has been consistently guilty of doing over the last 5 years )
There are times when you need to go out and buy a few big proven world class players if you expect to be the "Biggest" club in the world .

Your argument is all over the place.

Maybe you and recyclingbin should have a chat - he thinks he's a chequebook manager.

d22ontour

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

£18 on Hargreaves.
Thats alot of money.He hasnt bought a genuine top class central midfielder in 17 years.

I know he's crocked but 18 quid...

Also he was top class just injured a lot.

Thanx 4 The Fish

ntlbell wrote: »

Why does every thread here require play ground explanations

"Hai, i want success, sun and the womenz."

Rea:, we have it all 50k a week.

Chelsea, no sun here, suchess womenz and 100k a week

Bolton, no sun no women no success. 250k a week.

"I hear peter kay is funny!!"

It doesn't, they mostly require people who can see sense. Money is not always the only thing. If it was everyone would be playing for Monaco where they do not have to pay taxes on the same amount of money and so earn twice as much as a player in the prem for example.

What every thread needs is people who are happy to accept that sometimes, no matter how odd it seems, they can be wrong or at least not as right as they think they are.

Chucky the tree

Come on lads..

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Come on lads..

Bed at half 8?:P

Pro. F

ntlbell wrote: »

They can be, all things equal. But when it's not E.G. one is offering more money, they can over ride everything else if the money is big enough.

there goes, money is the be all and end all as it can override everything else.

christ all mighty.

ntlbell wrote: »

Why does every thread here require play ground explanations

"Hai, i want success, sun and the womenz."

Rea:, we have it all 50k a week.

Chelsea, no sun here, suchess womenz and 100k a week

Bolton, no sun no women no success. 250k a week.

"I hear peter kay is funny!!"

Ugh.

Money is not the only factor that determines where players go.
Are you denying this?

Chucky the tree

baz2009 wrote: »

Bed at half 8?:P

I'm pretty sure a lot of them have school in the morning.

ntlbell

Pro. F wrote: »

Ugh.

Money is not the only factor that determines where players go.
Are you denying this?

Monery can over turn any stumbling block if the amount of money is right.

Pro. F

ntlbell wrote: »

Monery can over turn any stumbling block if the amount of money is right.

I agree.

Edit: (I got distracted by the football) I agree that, in theory, if the amount is big enough money can overcome nearly any obstacle, but it still doesn't change the fact that money is not the only factor that determines where players go.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Chucky the tree wrote: »

I'm pretty sure a lot of them have school in the morning.

So do I.:pac:

Roar

banner at Old Trafford, which I thought was amusing..

The Cannibal

Put the money from Rooney towards bringing in Luis Suarez and Wesley Sneijder and the squad will be stronger for it.

recylingbin

Can't believe how disloyal Utd fans are to Rooney tbh.

Essien

The Cannibal wrote: »

Put the money from Rooney towards bringing in Luis Suarez and Wesley Sneijder and the squad will be stronger for it.

I doubt they'll get enough to buy Sneijder on his own tbh

A Dub in Glasgo

recylingbin wrote: »

Can't believe how disloyal Utd fans are to Rooney tbh.

That is laughable

CorkMan

baz2009 wrote: »

Bed at half 8?:P

I have to get up at 11 in the morning.

Dempsey

John Giles's comment about a deal already being done was an interesting point. I wonder if his representives do have a verbal agreement with someone for Rooney

mike65

Hilarious and rather expensive looking posters there. Glossy? Whatever happened to a white sheet and paintbrush?

recylingbin

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

That is laughable

It was meant to be.

Peyton Manning

recylingbin wrote: »

Can't believe how disloyal Utd fans are to Rooney tbh.

Well to be fair, if there's one thing Rooney understands, it's disloyalty.

Ask Everton.

Ask United.

Fúck it, even ask his wife.

MarcusFenix

Does anyone else feel like they've been broken up with by a long term partner that they totally didn't see coming?:(

doc_17

imo (and I'm not looking to rag anyone) it's hypocritical for some fans to get angry at Rooney for wanting to leave. It's for the same reasons he left Everton to go to United in the first place. More money and a better chance of winning things. It's just that the shoe is on the other foot now. It's all about perspective.

I really think he should stay at United though. It would be best for him.

CR 7

recylingbin wrote: »

Can't believe how disloyal Utd fans are to Rooney tbh.

I can't believe how troll-y trolls are tbh.

Mr.Nice Guy

doc_17 wrote: »

imo (and I'm not looking to rag anyone) it's hypocritical for some fans to get angry at Rooney for wanting to leave. It's for the same reasons he left Everton to go to United in the first place. More money and a better chance of winning things. It's just that the shoe is on the other foot now. It's all about perspective.

I really think he should stay at United though. It would be best for him.

Listen to the stuff he was saying less than a year ago:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/6509413/Wayne-Rooney-I-want-to-follow-Ryan-Giggs-example-and-stay-at-Manchester-United.html

You can't really blame the anger and the sense of betrayal.

jaykay74

Man United boss Sir Alex Ferguson: "I haven't read Wayne Rooney's statement, but we'll have a view on it tomorrow and probably put it to bed tomorrow. As I said, the door is open. We keep good players, particularly when they are that young. He wants assurances? Have I won 30 trophies or what?!"

MonkeyTennis

as a Liverpool fan, Im taken aback by the whole thing. Im trying not to listen to what the press is spouting but if this is a 'footballing' decision Im genuinely surprised.

Warper

doc_17 wrote: »

imo (and I'm not looking to rag anyone) it's hypocritical for some fans to get angry at Rooney for wanting to leave. It's for the same reasons he left Everton to go to United in the first place. More money and a better chance of winning things. It's just that the shoe is on the other foot now. It's all about perspective.

I really think he should stay at United though. It would be best for him.

Very good point but some Utd. fans are so blinkered they can't see this. They can't handle the fact that they are not a big enough club now for players like Rooney so they resort to lowlife personal blows against the guy and his wife. That goes for all the typical heads that actually thanked the thread with that poster on the previous page.

thegen

Rooney walked out on the club he supported as a kid fir UTD and now UTD supporters are calling him disloyal. Lol

The Muppet

Pro. F wrote: »

Yes I agree it's the primary motivation. In a lot of cases anyway.

If you'd said that in the first place I wouldn't have disagreed with you. But you said something quite different.

ntlbell wrote: »

Are you doing this on purpose?

If the right amount of money can make a player disregard, everything else

then everything is money?

everyone has a price.

Pro. F wrote: »

To say that things like location and prospects of success aren't a factor is nonsense. Of course money is a big factor I'm not denying that.

ntlbell wrote: »

They can be, all things equal. But when it's not E.G. one is offering more money, they can over ride everything else if the money is big enough.

there goes, money is the be all and end all as it can override everything else.

christ all mighty.

You got to be a pedant to play the game.

Peyton Manning

thegen wrote: »

Rooney walked out on the club he supported as a kid fir UTD and now UTD supporters are calling him disloyal. Lol

Find me a United fan who denied Rooney was being disloyal when he left Everton.

thegen

Easy to say now. Never heard a UTD supporter comment on it back then.

davyjose

Warper wrote: »

Very good point but some Utd. fans are so blinkered they can't see this. They can't handle the fact that they are not a big enough club now for players like Rooney so they resort to lowlife personal blows against the guy and his wife. That goes for all the typical heads that actually thanked the thread with that poster on the previous page.

And yet yourself, recyclingbin and chucky have spent the guts of the last two days here trolling and goading united fans, with unabashed glee.

Yeah ... classy!