Do you think Alchohol Advertisements should be allowed?

CorkMan

I think they should be banned. Smoke ads were banned in the 80's and I think this should follow suit.

There are problems in this country with drink driving, domestic violence caused by alcohol intoxication. There are alcoholics spending the night at home trying to stay off the drink and they get an ad showing the drink top to bottom in slow motion and some fancy music and scenes. That would drive them back to it, defeating the purpose of staying in.

I think it is a disgrace TBH, that is my opinion.

senordingdong

If some idiot wants to get drunk and beat his wife, or go for a spin, then there is something wrong with him.

Not with the alcohol he drank, and especially not with the advertising that 'prompted' him to buy it.

People in this country need to grow up and take responsibilty for their actions and stop searchign for scapegoats.

Kiera

I'd like to see more info on them, like what to mix them with. I only found out about "super splits" a few weeks ago.

R0ot

Alcohol adverts are the best on tv if you take them away I'd probably stop watching tv altogether.

Osgoodisgood

Maybe we should ban alcohol from our TVs entirely?

Of course Coronation St will have to close the Rovers, Father Ted re-runs are in for some savage editing and pretty much every sporting event in the world will be looking for a new sponsor.

CorkMan

Osgoodisgood wrote: »

Maybe we should ban alcohol from our TVs entirely?

Of course Coronation St will have to close the Rovers, Father Ted re-runs are in for some savage editing and pretty much every sporting event in the world will be looking for a new sponsor.

Well there is plenty of smoking in Father Ted. It's just the way the ads' glorify it. That is obvious.

As for the "idiot" who beats his wife, he is an idiot with drink in him.

FreudianSlippers

CorkMan wrote: »

I think they should be banned. Smoke ads were banned in the 80's and I think this should follow suit.

There are problems in this country with drink driving, domestic violence caused by alcohol intoxication. There are alcoholics spending the night at home trying to stay off the drink and they get an ad showing the drink top to bottom in slow motion and some fancy music and scenes. That would drive them back to it, defeating the purpose of staying in.

I think it is a disgrace TBH, that is my opinion.

OH yeah, because that'll help the recession. :rolleyes:

PanchoVilla

Alcohol ads should definitely be banned. Drink has crippled this country and it's about time we tackle the issue. Many people are more concerned with going out on the weekend and getting pissed than they are about the state the country's in. Binge drinking and the violence and deaths/murders associated with it is an embarrassment. Sometimes I wonder if we'd be better off under Sharia law.

galwayrush

PanchoVilla wrote: »

Alcohol ads should definitely be banned. Drink has crippled this country and it's about time we tackle the issue. Many people are more concerned with going out on the weekend and getting pissed than they are about the state the country's in. Binge drinking and the violence and deaths/murders associated with it is an embarrassment. Sometimes I wonder if we'd be better off under Sharia law.

Some people have a problem with drink, the majority do not, as for Sharia Law--- you got to be joking.:rolleyes:

PanchoVilla

OisinT wrote: »

OH yeah, because that'll help the recession. :rolleyes:

What, you mean people actually keeping their money instead of spending it all on drink? Or better yet, spending their money on something that benefits someone other than the multi-billion dollar drinks industry? I'm sure Diageo isn't feeling the squeeze that everyone else is, or will be come Dec 7th.

PanchoVilla

galwayrush wrote: »

Some people have a problem with drink, the majority do not, as for Sharia Law--- you got to be joking.:rolleyes:

Lots of people have a problem with drink. Irish society is based around pub culture. That's a huge problem and if you can't see that you must be blind.

galwayrush

PanchoVilla wrote: »

Lots of people have a problem with drink. Irish society is based around pub culture. That's a huge problem and if you can't see that you must be blind.

I'm not blind, somepeople have a serious problem with it, most can drink responsibly and enjoy it, that's what i see.

FreudianSlippers

PanchoVilla wrote: »

What, you mean people actually keeping their money instead of spending it all on drink? Or better yet, spending their money on something that benefits someone other than the multi-billion dollar drinks industry? I'm sure Diageo isn't feeling the squeeze that everyone else is, or will be come Dec 7th.

Oh, wow... you really don't understand the basics of economics and job creation so I'm not even going to bother.

PanchoVilla

OisinT wrote: »

Oh, wow... you really don't understand the basics of economics and job creation so I'm not even going to bother.

Nice cop out. Saving money or paying off debt > spending your paycheck down the pub. How's that for economics?

PanchoVilla

galwayrush wrote: »

I'm not blind, somepeople have a serious problem with it, most can drink responsibly and enjoy it, that's what i see.

A right, because when I walk around the city center on the weekend I see loads of responsible drinkers not puking their guts up and not getting into fights. I see loads of responsible drinkers not being rushed to A&E because of alcohol poisoning and not wrapping their cars around trees. Wait, we're still talking about Ireland right?

senordingdong

CorkMan wrote: »

As for the "idiot" who beats his wife, he is an idiot with drink in him.

He's an idiot regardless.
Even more so if he using alcohol as an excuse for his actions.

Osgoodisgood

PanchoVilla wrote: »

Nice cop out. Saving money or paying off debt > spending your paycheck down the pub. How's that for economics?

Hopeless. Have another go

DOC09UNAM

I think you should be banned from making threads.

That's all I think should be banned.

up for anything

In a tit-for-tat fashion they should be banned, unless they bring back Marlboro Man. Yorkie Man was no substitute for him.

A chocolate eating gimp versus I'm a guy who likes to work on my car. I like to take it apart, and I like to put it back together again.

No contest!

veXual

PanchoVilla wrote: »

What, you mean people actually keeping their money instead of spending it all on drink? Or better yet, spending their money on something that benefits someone other than the multi-billion dollar drinks industry? I'm sure Diageo isn't feeling the squeeze that everyone else is, or will be come Dec 7th.

You do realize the amount of tax revenue alcohol generates in this country? Plus people can spend their money on what they see fit...

Come Dec 7th I can guarantee the government won't increase the tax on a pint because at the moment it's pretty much one of the few products consumers are spending their money on.

NothingMan

PanchoVilla wrote: »

Nice cop out. Saving money or paying off debt > spending your paycheck down the pub. How's that for economics?

*Family fortunes buzzer EH UH!!!* Terrible economics. I don't know much but I know people not spending there money on goods and services will just put more people out of work, generating less tax, more spending on social welfare and drive us deeper into the sh1t.

Ledger

PanchoVilla wrote: »

What, you mean people actually keeping their money instead of spending it all on drink? Or better yet, spending their money on something that benefits someone other than the multi-billion dollar drinks industry? I'm sure Diageo isn't feeling the squeeze that everyone else is, or will be come Dec 7th.

what about the hundreds of thousands of jobs in the drinks industry?
I would be one of them.

There's alreadt been a shedload of job losses in the industry, your saying we need more?

When someone talks about the reccesion in this industry it's not the like of the big boys they're talking about like Diageo/C&C/Beamish and Crawford/Molson Coors/Coca-Cola/Gleeson Group the list goes on.

It is the small family run pub or the independant wholesaler who are struggling as it is and have had to cut hours or let off staff.

This all contributes to the Irish Economy, and whether you like it or not, alcohol is a big part of Government Revenue.

comeraghs

Why don´t we ban ads for cars because some people drive them dangerously and kill themselves or others?

Why don´t we ban ads for chocolate because some people eat too much of it and become unhealthy?

Why don´t we ban education because some people learn to talk ****e!

chin_grin

Do you know what I find hilarious? Those bus stop ads with the "careful now" attitude to drink (the one giving details of the units) and showing the lovely, succulent, bubbling pint.

They could've just put up a cartoon image of one and made the same point.

I'm on to you both sides of the same coin advertising!

senordingdong

chin_grin wrote: »

Do you know what I find hilarious? Those bus stop ads with the "careful now" attitude to drink (the one giving details of the units) and showing the lovely, succulent, bubbling pint. They could've just put up an image of one and made the same point.

I'm on to you both sides of the same coin advertising!

*Enjoy AH responsibly.

up for anything

NothingMan wrote: »

*Family fortunes buzzer EH UH!!!* Terrible economics. I don't know much but I know people not spending there money on goods and services will just put more people out of work, generating less tax, more spending on social welfare and drive us deeper into the sh1t.

But what about the people who spend their social welfare on goods and services?

ItsAWindUp

comeraghs wrote: »

Why don´t we ban ads for cars because some people drive them dangerously and kill themselves or others?

Why don´t we ban ads for chocolate because some people eat too much of it and become unhealthy?

Why don´t we ban education because some people learn to talk ****e!

Or just ban roads altogether!

FruitLover

CorkMan wrote: »

Smoke ads were banned in the 80's

And it paid off - the Ireland of the 21st century has no cigarette addicts!

Oh, wait....

eye-rollz.

NothingMan

up for anything wrote: »

But what about the people who spend their social welfare on goods and services?

Still better than them saving it and not spending it, at least it's getting pumped back into the economy.

Ash.J.Williams

veXual wrote: »

You do realize the amount of tax revenue alcohol generates in this country? Plus people can spend their money on what they see fit...

Come Dec 7th I can guarantee the government won't increase the tax on a pint because at the moment it's pretty much one of the few products consumers are spending their money on.

Is that a good thing?

Sykk

CorkMan every time you make a thread, a kitten dies. Please consider this when thinking of making a new one.

Osgoodisgood

NothingMan wrote: »

*Family fortunes buzzer EH UH!!!* Terrible economics. I don't know much but I know people not spending there money on goods and services will just put more people out of work, generating less tax, more spending on social welfare and drive us deeper into the sh1t.

Correct on all counts.
Money needs to be circulating if the economy is to right itself.

Booze is good. Booze works.

veXual

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Is that a good thing?

Well I'd assume consumer spending is a good thing. People not spending has the whole downward cyclic circlejerk effect jobby on the economy.

That's where part of this massive tax deficit has emerged from this year - lack of consumer spending.

Ash.J.Williams

veXual wrote: »

Well I'd assume consumer spending is a good thing. People not spending has the whole downward cyclic circlejerk effect jobby on the economy.

That's where part of this massive tax deficit has emerged from this year - lack of consumer spending.

I understand, but at the end of the day drinking to save the economy, i dunno...it's a funny one

Ledger

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

I understand, but at the end of the day drinking to save the economy, i dunno...it's a funny one

I'd take up that challenge.

I remember reading an article saying that drinking in Ireland actually costs the economy billions through lost productivity.

here is one: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2785659.stm
It's from 2003 and no doubt it is higher now.

Take the productivity then add it to the medical costs of alcohol related injuries - One third of people in the waiting room on a weekend night will have injured themselves while intoxicated.

I am sure these figures when taken together would dwarf the actual tax intake from alcohol. And I'm not even including the social problems which it creates which are impossible to put a monetary value on.


So take your "It's creating jobs and is good for the economy" nonsense and be gone.

veXual

It is kind of crazy alright bit of a double edged sword but hey it's Ireland so what can we expect.

Drinking our way out of a recession :pac:

fakearms123

I like beer.

mikemac

I don't think it should be in sports advertising

The local under-12 football team sponsored by a local pub
Guinness sponsoring All Ireland Hurling Championship.

Back when Irelands biggest golf event was Murphy's Irish open and they'd put mininiture pints on each tee box.
That was eight years ago and people still call it Murphy's Irish open

Minstrel27

CorkMan wrote: »

I think they should be banned. Smoke ads were banned in the 80's and I think this should follow suit.

There are problems in this country with drink driving, domestic violence caused by alcohol intoxication. There are alcoholics spending the night at home trying to stay off the drink and they get an ad showing the drink top to bottom in slow motion and some fancy music and scenes. That would drive them back to it, defeating the purpose of staying in.

I think it is a disgrace TBH, that is my opinion.

I agree. Ban television.

smash

I think Vagasil ads should be banned!

FreudianSlippers

PanchoVilla wrote: »

Nice cop out. Saving money or paying off debt > spending your paycheck down the pub. How's that for economics?

Read the below please for your answer:

NothingMan wrote: »

*Family fortunes buzzer EH UH!!!* Terrible economics. I don't know much but I know people not spending there money on goods and services will just put more people out of work, generating less tax, more spending on social welfare and drive us deeper into the sh1t.

the purple tin

Alcohol ads should be banned for the simple reason that they have gotten so stupid. Those twee bulmers ads for a start.:mad:
The ones with SAtC lookalikes walking around some trendy nightspot in slow motion- pah.
Ban them all I say.

wolfpawnat

CorkMan wrote: »

As for the "idiot" who beats his wife, he is an idiot with drink in him.

You are aware only a fraction of Domestic Abuse cases are solely alcohol based. There is something in the man or woman that causes them to abuse another person, drinking lowers inhibitions, but it does not erase them. If you are violent with drink, you are violent without. If you are a tramp with it in, you are as likely to hop into bed with a total stranger without. Being "hammered" is not the reason why you do things!

I am not a drinker, I hate it, I think it is boring and a waste of money. But do I think we should remove alcohol ads - No.

We know only over 18s are supposed to buy it.

We know you should not drink and drive.

We know it is wrong to hit people.

We know it makes us more likely to regret our actions.

If we choose to do any of the above they you are an imbecile and should be locked up for sheer idiocy.

People still smoke, cigarette ads are not on tv, but yet we are a nation that are like chimneys. What makes you think for one minute that not putting it on tv will make it stop?

Too much tax is made off alcohol and with a Taoiseacht that enjoys his few (too many), no way will alcohol laws be altered too much.

Besides, I have enjoyed the ads for alcohol for years, they are fun and upbeat! And those Clysdales and Guinness ads eack xmas make it for me! I don't like beer, but I love those ads!

Ash.J.Williams

I do find the off licence laws to be very stupid though..

Ledger

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

I do find the off licence laws to be very stupid though..

i'm with you on that one

kiad

Anyone who thinks these ad's should be banned is an absolute idiot with nothing better to do than complain. Stop your f*cking whining. Alcohol companies need to advertise too, just like anyone else.

Pace2008

Pushers out, I say.

senordingdong

Right, thread has un its course.

Tits or gtfo.

Pookah

On the one hand you've got alcohol ads, and on the other you've got those ads bemoaning the activities drunkards get up to; vandalism, violence etc.

I dunno. I'm torn between the two.

Micky Dolenz

All this talk of drink is making me thirsty, Pints?