How to avoid been ripped off on Gearbox

Bettyboop

Hi just have my car a month now and found out the gearbox needs to be conditioned.I have rang numerous places and got quotes but don't know whether I am going to ripped off:)As you see I am a woman and know nothing about gearboxes so I have been given the Oh thats a big job or you would be better getting a new gear box or maybe you best scrapping it :)I know nobody who knows about cars except my mechanic and he quoted over 800e to do it depending on the state of gear box.He was the one who confirmed it needs to be reconditioned.Is 800e reasonable?The lowest I got was 650e from a place in Tallaght.Should I get the car properly checked in a Suzuki garage to confirm nothing else is wrong? So as to avoid getting it done and then get a phone call to say something else needs to be replaced.Just don't want to end up paying more than I have to;)
Any advice welcome
Thank you
ps its a 2001 suzuki Ignis

Plug

The chances are the Suzuki mechanics won't know much more than your own mechanic, don't waste your time. Its recommended that you replace the clutch and release bearing also if they are less than good condition.

Tell us symptoms here and we might be able to help you.

Bettyboop

Whining noise when I engage clutch either going fast or slow
Thanks

Bigus

If its not bothering you drive away until it gets a whole lot worse. if you're worried about it letting you down on the side of the road, the chances are it will get a lot noisier before this happens.
More than likely you could get two years out of it as is. Give us more hints as to the symptoms.

Bettyboop

going through the gears up or down get this whining noise gets longer when I tend to slow down like a dynamo Sorry trying my best to explain it goes into gear no problem just the noise when I change gear or slow down,just got new brakes installed from a suzuki dealer but he sais it was fine a great little car you got there I sold my precious other car to get funds for my sons college fees and now wish I hadnt.

mickdw

What is your car worth? Id be wary of spending 800 on it.

Bigus

Just keep driving it for the timebeing.

EPM

Bigus wrote: »

If its not bothering you drive away until it gets a whole lot worse. if you're worried about it letting you down on the side of the road, the chances are it will get a lot noisier before this happens.
More than likely you could get two years out of it as is. Give us more hints as to the symptoms.

I did this for 20k km until the noise was noticeable when driving. If you can get it done do. You could wind up doing irreparable damage to the box if you do. Quote seems ok from my experience to be honest. Clutch kit would be a good idea too while it's all disassembled

Mr Benevolent

Seriously though, e650 is ok for a recon. You could try a breaker though.

Bigus

Why spend 650 when the car isn't worth 2k , if the gearbox goes so what , buy a secondhand one in two years time or scrap the car then. if it goes before im wrong ...
sure its worth the chance.

johnos1984

Bigus wrote: »

Why spend 650 when the car isn't worth 2k

The car may not hold much monetary value but it fairness it could be priceless for the OP

A repair would work out cheaper than a replacement in the long run as long as the car is in otherwise good condition

mondeo

Make sure the quotes your getting include vat.

d.lally2

I have a gearbox problem myself at the moment. I bought a new car and still have the old one which grinds when going to third from fourth. My mechanic told me it's the synchro worn between the gears. Asked him how much to fix, told me it's an insanely complicated job to strip a gearbox and fix that or recondition it in your case as special tools are needed.

Best thing to do in my opinion (I'll probably end up doing this myself with my old car) is to try and buy a second hand gearbox from a scrapyard, for hopefully the €150 - €200 mark and my mechanic told me €80 to change it. My mechanic is a family friend so I trust his advice. Try and get one from a crashed one with low enough milage and maybe get some sort of guarantee it will work or not grind as it is impossible apparently to know a good gearbox from a bad one when buying.

I could try and get away with selling it as it is but rather just have it right and have no hassle! Hope this helps and if anyone else agrees or disagrees please reply!!

Bettyboop

Bettyboop wrote: »

Hi just have my car a month now and found out the gearbox needs to be conditioned.

Did you buy privately or from a dealer ?

Bettyboop

RoverJames wrote: »

Did you buy privately or from a dealer ?

Private seller on here

Matt Simis

Bumping your own old thread? Still like that I assume, did the cold make it any different?

Before the rebuild (which I also think is dead money) Id have the gearbox oil changed and possibly an additive added. Are you absolutely sure the noise if the gearbox and not the diff?

Bettyboop

Matt Simis wrote: »

Bumping your own old thread? Still like that I assume, did the cold make it any different?

Before the rebuild (which I also think is dead money) Id have the gearbox oil changed and possibly an additive added. Are you absolutely sure the noise if the gearbox and not the diff?

Thank you for your reply
I have had it in 5 main garages from wicklow to walkinstown,the oil change you mentioned was funnily enough mentioned to me,the diff was mentioned by 3 mechanics also.Now I aint a genius on cars as you can tell but 2 said a new gearbox and the rest said a reconditioning of my gearbox tbh I thought new gearbox was my only solution .The weather hasn't affected it but still get that whine its not too loud.Wasl told to just keep driving it and I will know when its bad when the noise gets louder.Have contacted a few dismantlers for a gearbox and 200e is what they quoted,thing is I don' know what questions to ask them about box!I am in a dilemma should I continue driving as is or get it repaired before I do more damage?
Once again I appreciate all the advice been given.

Bigus

Like i said originally, keep on driving it. And keep in touch with dismantlers and insist on seeing the car and mileage that your replacement box comes out of.

Bettyboop

Bigus wrote: »

Like i said originally, keep on driving it. And keep in touch with dismantlers and insist on seeing the car and mileage that your replacement box comes out of.

Thank you Bigus
I have decided to get the gear oil changed with the best one on the market
it may not work but if it does its a cheap solution for the time been.
Would appreciate any suggestion on the best gear oil and additive;)

galwaytt

...if the oil doesn't work, I'd go for the used 'box for 200, tbh.

My mech told me mine was possibly on the way out, long-term, and advised if I could, to source a new/used 'box, as it wouldn't pay to strip & fix it.

So, ebay is your friend, and I got a spare one now, and it's in a crate, under the bench in the garage, waiting for the old one to give up !! That was nearly a year ago !

Nonoperational

Ya keep driving away untill you can't. I had an issue with a gearbox on a previous car. Started about 2 years ago and it's still driving away grand.

Bettyboop

gpf101 wrote: »

Ya keep driving away untill you can't. I had an issue with a gearbox on a previous car. Started about 2 years ago and it's still driving away grand.

oh you all made my xmas
Thank you
And a happy xmas to you and your families.:)

irelandspurs

give these a try www.naasgearboxcentre.com

gofaster_s13

irelandspurs wrote: »

give these a try www.naasgearboxcentre.com

Give them a try if you want to be doing it again in a years time, nobody in the trade uses them(with good reason).