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Moving from Scotland- Dole/ Rent allowance

  • 20-10-2010 11:38am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭


    Hi all, I am asking this question for a friend. She will be moving over here in a few weeks and is not sure if she will be entitled to claim the above reliefs. she has been in full time employment for the last 3 years. If she cannot find a job will she be able to claim straght away or have to wait for a number of weeks?
    TIA.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,285 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    She is entitled to move her current UK benefits here immediately, and would qualify for Irish benefits on the basis of her UK stamps, after the initial exclusion period.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭mike kelly


    if you have been living in the UK for 10 years and move to Ireland and want to sign on the dole, does the 2 year residency rule apply to you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭cee_jay


    Hi all, I am asking this question for a friend. She will be moving over here in a few weeks and is not sure if she will be entitled to claim the above reliefs. she has been in full time employment for the last 3 years. If she cannot find a job will she be able to claim straght away or have to wait for a number of weeks?
    TIA.
    To be able to use her stamps from Scotland to claim here, she needs to pay at least 1 A class contribution - so have worked for a week.
    If she cannot get any work, she will have to claim Jobseeker's Allowance, which is means tested, and she will have to satisfy Habitual residence condition - if she has never lived in Ireland before, and has no ties or employment record in Ireland, she may not satisfy this condition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭cee_jay


    mike kelly wrote: »
    if you have been living in the UK for 10 years and move to Ireland and want to sign on the dole, does the 2 year residency rule apply to you?

    Its not a two year residency rule. You have to satisfy the habitual residence condition which basically consists of 5 factors:
    Length and continuity of residence in Ireland or other parts of the Common Travel Area
    Length and purpose of any absence from Ireland or the Common Travel Area
    Nature and pattern of employment
    Your main centre of interest
    Your future intentions to live in Ireland as it appears from the evidence.

    You do not have to satisfy this for Jobseeker's Benefit, just allowance, and other means tested payments.

    http://www.welfare.ie/EN/OperationalGuidelines/Pages/habres.aspx are the guidelines.

    Basically if you have never lived in the country before, have no ties or employment record here you probably won't be approved for payment.
    However, if an Irish person went abroad for a year or two, say travelling to Australia, and came back they would be approved as their family and centre of interest would be here.
    However, if someone Irish went abroad at age 20, moved to another country for 30 years, and had a family over there, and they were still abroad, when the person came back they probably wouldn't be habitually resident as their centre of interest would be with their family in another country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭mike kelly


    cAr0l wrote: »
    However, if someone Irish went abroad at age 20, moved to another country for 30 years, and had a family over there, and they were still abroad, when the person came back they probably wouldn't be habitually resident as their centre of interest would be with their family in another country.

    One of the most amazing examples of bull**** that I have ever come across


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