1K to blow on a build

dwighet · 20-10-2010 9:28pm #1

As the title says I`ve got 1k to spend on a build(well thats what the Mrs will allow me)
Now im a newbie to this so take it handy on me..
My needs for this build is: gaming,multimedia.
The rig needs to be very quiet as it will be in the sitting room.
I was talking to the lads in IT at work today and they will do the assembly work if I supply the parts, so happy days

Any advice on components would be greatly appreciated and I can stretch the budget a small bit,just dont let the wife know;)

Many thanks
Dwighet

the untitled user · 20-10-2010 10:42pm

What does that budget cover? Do you need everything from the ground up? i.e. monitor, keyboard & mouse, speakers, OS?

Btw, building is easy, well worth having a go at it yourself so you can learn the ins and outs.

kfish2oo2 · 20-10-2010 11:09pm

I would recommend you wait a few weeks, as ATI has just teased some shots of their new lineup of graphics cards and they should be in reviewers hands by Friday. Inevitably over the next few weeks there'll be a price reshuffle.

thenightrider · 20-10-2010 11:35pm

As it is going to be in your sitting room are you going to use your tv as a monitor ?

Are you looking for something that will sit under your TV or are you going to have the computer at a desk ?

dwighet · 21-10-2010 7:47am

the untitled user wrote: »

What does that budget cover? Do you need everything from the ground up? i.e. monitor, keyboard & mouse, speakers, OS?

Btw, building is easy, well worth having a go at it yourself so you can learn the ins and outs.

I have everythg ie.monitor,keyboard,speakers. The budget is for simply the case and components and os...

I think I will tackle the build myself....Under the close eye of a buddy thats done it before.

dwighet · 21-10-2010 7:54am

thenightrider wrote: »

As it is going to be in your sitting room are you going to use your tv as a monitor ?

Are you looking for something that will sit under your TV or are you going to have the computer at a desk ?

I have a small desk in the corner of the room with a monitor but would like the option of using the 42" flatscreen as well via a hdmi cable....

A tower would be fine for the sitting room..As long as its reasonably quiet..

Curry Addict · 21-10-2010 3:00pm

id go for something like this

Article-No. Article Availability Delivery price HV20IB95DE Intel Core i7-950 Box 8192Kb, LGA1366
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
expected on 2010-10-25 255,26 € HV1132IGDE Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R, Intel X58, ATX, PCI-Express
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
expected on 2010-10-26 186,24 € HV20G2G6DE 6GB-KIT G-Skill DDR3 PC1333, CL 7
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
one article available 110,81 € HV203NZXDE NZXT LeXa S Midi-Tower - black, ohne Netzteil
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
immediately available 57,22 € HVR700XDE Xilence Power 700 Watt / SPS-XP700.(135)R
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
immediately available 72,82 € HV1022PGDE Point of View GeForce GTX460, 768MB DDR5
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
expected on 2010-10-22 144,79 € HV1310F3DE Samsung SpinPoint F3 1000GB, SATA II (HD103SJ)
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
immediately available 50,28 € HV207SC3DE Samsung SH-223C bare schwarz SATA
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
immediately available 17,03 € Sum: 894,45 €

dwighet · 21-10-2010 5:03pm

Curry Addict wrote: »

id go for something like this

Article-No. Article Availability Delivery price HV20IB95DE Intel Core i7-950 Box 8192Kb, LGA1366
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
expected on 2010-10-25 255,26 € HV1132IGDE Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R, Intel X58, ATX, PCI-Express
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
expected on 2010-10-26 186,24 € HV20G2G6DE 6GB-KIT G-Skill DDR3 PC1333, CL 7
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
one article available 110,81 € HV203NZXDE NZXT LeXa S Midi-Tower - black, ohne Netzteil
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
immediately available 57,22 € HVR700XDE Xilence Power 700 Watt / SPS-XP700.(135)R
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
immediately available 72,82 € HV1022PGDE Point of View GeForce GTX460, 768MB DDR5
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
expected on 2010-10-22 144,79 € HV1310F3DE Samsung SpinPoint F3 1000GB, SATA II (HD103SJ)
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
immediately available 50,28 € HV207SC3DE Samsung SH-223C bare schwarz SATA
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
immediately available 17,03 € Sum: 894,45 €

I like it...I like it a lot....
Would the 2 fans be enough of should i invest in a few more?
Or should I go one of these
with the appopriate fan either side of the rad?

Icyseanfitz · 21-10-2010 6:26pm

id up that gtx 460 to the 1 gig card which costs about 200 euro and is a very good card

Curry Addict · 21-10-2010 6:33pm

dwighet wrote: »

I like it...I like it a lot....
Would the 2 fans be enough of should i invest in a few more?
Or should I go one of these
with the appopriate fan either side of the rad?

the case has 4 fans already installed, that should be plenty.

the untitled user · 21-10-2010 6:52pm

Everyone has forgotten the bit about it being low noise...

You'll want a different case tbh, one with a layer of sound insulation. I've heard decent things about the fractal R3, or the Antec P183.

In terms of coolers, the Corsair Hydro series is good, if you couple it with some high pressure, low RPM fans. Other options to look at would be some of the Noctua line (the likes of the D14 or U12P will allow for a healthy overclock while remaining pretty quiet, but are massive). Generally speaking, you'll want a big heatsink for the likes of an i7, coupled with some high pressure, low RPM fans.

In terms of the fans, more intakes will mean you can still get good airflow while running them at a lower RPM (it'll still make noise, but less likely to hear a whine or hum this way). Noctua NF-S12B ULN and Scythe S-FLEX are some of the better options to my knowledge... just beware that sometimes the pressure waves of different fans can interact strangely and produce resonance and thus annoying vibrations. If noise is a primary concern you may have to experiment with different configurations.

Might be worth too looking at getting a GPU with a non reference cooler. When high end graphics cards are creating heat and the fans kick in higher they can create a huge amount of noise.

dwighet · 21-10-2010 7:19pm

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

id up that gtx 460 to the 1 gig card which costs about 200 euro and is a very good card

Would that be this one?

Icyseanfitz · 21-10-2010 7:31pm

i got this when it was 200 right now its at 170 which is brilliant value :eek: brilliant card btw quite as well

dwighet · 21-10-2010 7:49pm

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

i got this when it was 200 right now its at 170 which is brilliant value :eek: brilliant card btw quite as well

What would the differance be between the 2?
My head is spinning:eek: so many dissisions

the untitled user · 21-10-2010 8:07pm

Point of View is a reference card I think i.e. standard cooler and standard clocks.

Gigabyte is non reference, has a custom dual fan cooler and comes higher clocked out of the box, meaning there should be a little performance boost. But it also runs a little hotter and noisier than the reference seemingy URL="http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/3393/gigabyte_geforce_gtx_460_1gb_oc_video_card/index17.html"]link[/URL.

Another non reference 460 to consider is the Gainward Golden Sample URL="http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=36566&agid=707"]link[/URL. It's not clocked as high as the Gigabyte, however, in my own experience the Golden Samples have pretty good overclocking capability and good coolers, but I know nothing about this specific model.

dwighet · 21-10-2010 10:48pm

Curry Addict · 22-10-2010 8:10am

they dont have some of that stuff, its better to chose what they have in stock

Icyseanfitz · 22-10-2010 2:25pm

id hold off buying a gtx 460 now as im after reading some reviews on the new AMD HD 6850 and 6870 cards and they seem to be great cards (2 6850's out power a 5970 :eek:) dont mean to confuse you but id hold off building for a couple of weeks as things might get interesting in the gpu market

dwighet · 22-10-2010 3:21pm

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

id hold off buying a gtx 460 now as im after reading some reviews on the new AMD HD 6850 and 6870 cards and they seem to be great cards (2 6850's out power a 5970 :eek:) dont mean to confuse you but id hold off building for a couple of weeks as things might get interesting in the gpu market

I hear ya...thanks for the heads up;)

tc2010 · 23-10-2010 1:53pm

just buy 2 x 6870s, a Phenom quad core with 4 gb ram and 750w power supply

youll easily get that for a grand

go to ebuyer.com and save on delivery

clivej · 28-10-2010 3:33pm

dwighet wrote: »

I have everythg ie.monitor,keyboard,speakers. The budget is for simply the case and components and os...

I think I will tackle the build myself....Under the close eye of a buddy thats done it before.

the untitled user wrote: »

Everyone has forgotten the bit about it being low noise...

You'll want a different case tbh, one with a layer of sound insulation. I've heard decent things about the fractal R3, or the Antec P183.

In terms of coolers, the Corsair Hydro series is good, if you couple it with some high pressure, low RPM fans. Other options to look at would be some of the Noctua line (the likes of the D14 or U12P will allow for a healthy overclock while remaining pretty quiet, but are massive). Generally speaking, you'll want a big heatsink for the likes of an i7, coupled with some high pressure, low RPM fans.

In terms of the fans, more intakes will mean you can still get good airflow while running them at a lower RPM (it'll still make noise, but less likely to hear a whine or hum this way). Noctua NF-S12B ULN and Scythe S-FLEX are some of the better options to my knowledge... just beware that sometimes the pressure waves of different fans can interact strangely and produce resonance and thus annoying vibrations. If noise is a primary concern you may have to experiment with different configurations.

Might be worth too looking at getting a GPU with a non reference cooler. When high end graphics cards are creating heat and the fans kick in higher they can create a huge amount of noise.

Go get yourself a Dell PC it will do whatever you need it to do and your have a guarantee for the year, for what its worth. I have been out of the PC building loop for too long to know whats what now.
BUT go with the ANTEC 183 case, son uses one and it's quite, and the low rev fans to keep the noise down.
Look for onboard HDMI output for your TV.
I'll keep looking for bits as I think of them for ya.

ATB
cj from KK

dwighet · 28-10-2010 7:40pm

clivej wrote: »

Go get yourself a Dell PC it will do whatever you need it to do and your have a guarantee for the year, for what its worth. I have been out of the PC building loop for too long to know whats what now.
BUT go with the ANTEC 183 case, son uses one and it's quite, and the low rev fans to keep the noise down.
Look for onboard HDMI output for your TV.
I'll keep looking for bits as I think of them for ya.

ATB
cj from KK

Im going to build one Clive....
I have all the ingredients sorted...
Its going to be a rocket of a yoke..
you know me...I dont do things by halves...

Sgt Pepper 64 · 29-10-2010 9:44am

If its gonna be used for multimedia, your going to need a NAS. (Synology Disk Station DS210J NAS for example) Its something people always forget - you've got to feed the beast and back it up
Allow approx 3-400 for 2 x 1TB one. Then you can stream your media to anywhere and have a useful backup as well.
(You can access it secure from over the net, and your PC doesnt need to be on)

dwighet · 02-11-2010 11:34pm

Curry Addict · 03-11-2010 7:23pm

the power supply is very expensive, u could probably save 100e there
the mobo is very expensive u could possibly save 75e there
u could save 200e there and put in another graphics card or go for a top of the line card.

dwighet · 03-11-2010 11:37pm

Curry Addict wrote: »

the power supply is very expensive, u could probably save 100e there
the mobo is very expensive u could possibly save 75e there
u could save 200e there and put in another graphics card or go for a top of the line card.

ok Curry Adidict....
What mobo and psu would you go for to save a few (200e?)
Also what top line gfx would you do for the savings I make?

Your comments are well appreciated

Kur4mA · 04-11-2010 10:31am

Hi, I'm not sure you saw my own thread. I also had a 1000 Euro budget and after some tinkering and tips came up with the following. It's just 1 Euro over budget when you factor in the delivey and includes a really great 24" monitor which my house mate just bought and it's an amazing piece of kit.

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Curry Addict · 04-11-2010 11:06am

dwighet wrote: »

ok Curry Adidict....
What mobo and psu would you go for to save a few (200e?)
Also what top line gfx would you do for the savings I make?

Your comments are well appreciated

id try this

HV1131ILDE Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD3, Intel P55, ATX, DDR3, PCI-Express
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
immediately available 114,88 € HVR800XDE Xilence Power 800 Watt / SPS-XP800.(135)R
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
expected on 2010-11-05 82,29 € HV1029FPDE XFX RADEON HD 6850 775M 1GB DDR5 DP HDMI DUAL DVI PCI-E
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
expected on 2010-11-05 152,66 € Sum: 349,83 €
2x6850 for total of 502.49e as opposed to 567e so 65e saved and a better gaming system overall.

Curry Addict · 04-11-2010 1:49pm

so your full build would be....

HV20I576DE Intel Core i5-760 Box 8192Kb, LGA1156
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
immediately available 165,83 € HV1131ILDE Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD3, Intel P55, ATX, DDR3, PCI-Express
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
immediately available 114,88 € HV20CO10DE 4GB-Kit Corsair DDR3 PC1600 C8 Classic
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
immediately available 71,11 € HV203FD1DE FRACTAL DESIGN Gehäuse DEFINE R3 Black Pearl
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
expected on 2010-11-05 89,41 € HVR800XDE Xilence Power 800 Watt / SPS-XP800.(135)R
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
expected on 2010-11-05 82,29 € HV1029FPDE XFX RADEON HD 6850 775M 1GB DDR5 DP HDMI DUAL DVI PCI-E
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
expected on 2010-11-05 152,66 € HV1029FPDE XFX RADEON HD 6850 775M 1GB DDR5 DP HDMI DUAL DVI PCI-E
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
expected on 2010-11-05 152,66 € HV1310F3DE Samsung SpinPoint F3 1000GB, SATA II (HD103SJ)
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
immediately available 48,98 € HV207S34DE Samsung SH-223L bare Lightscribe schwarz
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
immediately available 18,82 € HV33E7P6DE MS Windows 7 Pro 64bit SB-Version Englisch
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
immediately available 121,54 € Sum: 1.018,18 €

dwighet · 04-11-2010 2:37pm

Curry Addict wrote: »

so your full build would be....

HV20I576DE Intel Core i5-760 Box 8192Kb, LGA1156
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
immediately available 165,83 € HV1131ILDE Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD3, Intel P55, ATX, DDR3, PCI-Express
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
immediately available 114,88 € HV20CO10DE 4GB-Kit Corsair DDR3 PC1600 C8 Classic
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
immediately available 71,11 € HV203FD1DE FRACTAL DESIGN Gehäuse DEFINE R3 Black Pearl
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
expected on 2010-11-05 89,41 € HVR800XDE Xilence Power 800 Watt / SPS-XP800.(135)R
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
expected on 2010-11-05 82,29 € HV1029FPDE XFX RADEON HD 6850 775M 1GB DDR5 DP HDMI DUAL DVI PCI-E
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
expected on 2010-11-05 152,66 € HV1029FPDE XFX RADEON HD 6850 775M 1GB DDR5 DP HDMI DUAL DVI PCI-E
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
expected on 2010-11-05 152,66 € HV1310F3DE Samsung SpinPoint F3 1000GB, SATA II (HD103SJ)
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
immediately available 48,98 € HV207S34DE Samsung SH-223L bare Lightscribe schwarz
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
immediately available 18,82 € HV33E7P6DE MS Windows 7 Pro 64bit SB-Version Englisch
incl. VAT and excl. shipping costs
immediately available 121,54 € Sum: 1.018,18 €

Thats perfect.....
Thanks for your help...

Curry Addict · 04-11-2010 3:32pm

no bother. if u want to overclock your processor ill send u on a guide. u should be able to run at, at least, 3.4ghz on stock cooler if not 3.6ghz.

1K to blow on a build

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