Family of 4 attacked in Napoli

Shammy

http://www.teamtalk.com/news/2483/6457899/British-family-attacked-in-Naples

The italians are at it again .

daithijjj

Apparently that family are not liverpool fans either, just a family on holiday. But were attacked because they were 'supposedly' liverpool fans.

8-10

It is unfortunately a dodgy city to visit. I'm surprised supporters are travelling there. I always steered clear.

Dont be at yourself

Napoli is the biggest halting site in the world. Absolute cesspit. Feel very sorry for the family and the others who were attacked by the scumbag "fans".

Gavin "shels"

They're tapped, had to play their games behind closed doors after this iirc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUn9IUZxTj0

hideous ape

NekkidBibleMan wrote: »

Napoli is the biggest halting site in the world. Absolute cesspit.

And that should be printed in every travel guide. I was there a few weeks ago and after staying in Rome I was shocked by the place. Italian workmates warned me not to hang around there too long and I thought they were being a bit overboard...the place should be nuked.

If anyone is ever visiting Pompeii and you have some hours to kill, don't spend them in Napoli.

jamsieboy86

The Neapolitans are crazy, while this is disgraceful and shouldn't be let happen, it doesn't surprise me at all.

Dolph Starbeam

Gavin shels wrote: »

They're tapped, had to play their games behind closed doors after this iirc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUn9IUZxTj0

Feck how many of them is there.

x in the city

daithijjj wrote: »

Apparently that family are not liverpool fans either, just a family on holiday. But were attacked because they were 'supposedly' liverpool fans.

people (fans/tourists/maradona devotees etc..) are worse going to places like that.

The fact its only 3 people that have been stabbed is the biggest surprise to my Italian friends. Steer well clear of Naples is there advice.

Sir Gallagher

x in the city wrote: »

people (fans/tourists/maradona devotees etc..) are worse going to places like that.

Yeah they were asking for it... those silly tourists ay, worse than scumbag cowardly attackers.

Le King

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

Yeah they were asking for it... those silly tourists ay, worse than scumbag cowardly attackers.

I agree with you. But it is pretty stupid going to Napoli as a family particularly where the country you come from is playing the local team.

I'd never bring anybody to Napoli, never mind any children at a time like this. Napoli is well known for this, it's crazy that somebody thought they would be safe at a time like this. The Napoletani don't care who you are. The family shouldn't of gone there. Doesn't mean they were asking for it. It's just a fairly stupid thing to do.

mikemac

Worst city in Italy.

I've been in Italy, I'm certainly going to return but I won't be going to Napoli ever again

redzerdrog

Naples is without doubt the most discusting and horrible city I have ever visited.

I was actually thinking about this the other day wondering were there many liverpool fans travelling for the game and did they actually know what the place was like before going. Because I had no idea what it was like before I spent 1 day/night there when visiting pompeii

Moist Bread

I never heard that Napoli was that bad. Is it really that dangerous to go to when a football match is not on? Is it only certain areas that are dodgy?

grenache

I'm living with two Italians, one is from Salerno, near Napoli. He's been telling me to steer well clear of Napoli if i decide to go back there this summer. Its a mob city, where the local mafia bosses have their hands in nearly everything - including the police. Added to this are the high concentrations of scum amongst the local Napolitani. Its a dangerous place for the average Italian to visit, nevermind tourists.

Sir Gallagher

Le King wrote: »

I agree with you. But it is pretty stupid going to Napoli as a family particularly where the country you come from is playing the local team.

I'd never bring anybody to Napoli, never mind any children at a time like this. Napoli is well known for this, it's crazy that somebody thought they would be safe at a time like this. The Napoletani don't care who you are. The family shouldn't of gone there. Doesn't mean they were asking for it. It's just a fairly stupid thing to do.

I understand people who are more clued in should not go but sometimes tourists end up in the wrong place at the wrong time, maybe they didn't know Liverpool were playing their tonight or that the city was full of scummy lunatics.

When people say "ah they shouldn't have been there" i think it kind of excuses the behaviour of the dirt who commit these crimes.

Either way we're all agreed that the attackers are scum, 3 of these scumbags are up for an attempted murder charge supposedly so that's a bit of good news.

Dub13

I know about 10 lads who are at the game and it has kicked off a good few times already.Their local rag didn't help the situation by claiming 1,000 Liverpool 'hooligans' were about to arrive in the city.

abelard

While not one of the safest cities in the world by a long stretch, I found it quite charming. Most northern Italians like to pretend Napoli is actually in Africa, and while the locals are a little mad, like a lot of cities, keep your wits about you a little bit and its perfectly safe. Best pizza in the world too.

Son Of A Vidic

Gavin shels wrote: »

They're tapped, had to play their games behind closed doors after this iirc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUn9IUZxTj0

:eek: Christ! That's one big train they're getting on .

Dub13

abelard wrote: »

While not one of the safest cities in the world by a long stretch, I found it quite charming. Most northern Italians like to pretend Napoli is actually in Africa, and while the locals are a little mad, like a lot of cities, keep your wits about you a little bit and its perfectly safe. Best pizza in the world too.

But its take up a few notches when you are traveling with a English football team.

abelard

Dub13 wrote: »

But its take up a few notches when you are traveling with a English football team.

Very true.

Also, forgot to mention it first time (because in fairness the thread had become a bit of a dump on Napoli in general), but awful story, and I hope the family are ok. What an awful thing to happen while trying to enjoy a family holiday

AntoSRFC

Wasnt the video of the Napoli fans at Termini not the first away game after a ban? They met up in Napoli wrecked the train station there. Got on the train(didnt pay) wrecked that. Arrived in Termini wrecked that too. Then got banned again.

11:56 - The fourth bruised hand, is a Neapolitan, Carmine tranches, 28 year old restaurant owner "Into or core, was medicated at the Hospital for Incurable ear and bruising to the hand were found to heal within ten days.

11:43 - The first to be attacked were Ian Lee Friar, 44, prison guard and Philip Alexander Phillips, 53, were both found to heal within 10 days from the health Loreto Mare Hospital where they were taken after ' aggression. They reported, respectively, lacerocontusa a wound to the skull and cut the puncture wounds and left buttock, thigh and right occipital region. For Phillips it was necessary while the patient was discharged Friar.

The third casualty is David Luke Watson, 27 year old Liverpool fan, was attacked by a group of youths armed with knives. Taken to the hospital "Loreto Mare" the doctors found the wound by cutting his right thigh and another in the head heal within 12 days

10:36 - It was later learned from the police that the injured Cannon Street Middle English is not a fan but the owner, Carmine tranches of 28 years. The entrepreneur when he noticed that the Napoli fans wanted to attack the group of Liverpool supporters intervened to calm tempers. The thugs attacked tranches rather than calm down and wounded in one eye. Then they fled. Police are investigating to try to identify the perpetrators of the assault. Tension is high in cities where there are still 11 hours from the start of the Naples-Liverpool match.

09:28 - To Catch a Liverpool fan last night in downtown Naples. Three Liverpool fans were attacked by the ultras Napoli. The three injuries occurred in different circumstances. An English fan 'was stabbed in the way of the Cimbri. Taken to hospital after treatment and is' made to resign. His condition is not serious. Then two other assailants in a gun Half way in which a group of England fans was cenendo: some Napoli fans attacked them, a Liverpool fan and 'was wounded. Finally, in Piazza Principe Umberto, the main station in the area, about 4 a group of supporters of Liverpool 'was attacked by some Napoli fans. An English 'was beaten and suffered injuries. A steering wheel and the Office of general prevention 'intervened to prevent the worst from England fans. Three blue fans, two of Naples one of Sant'Angelo dei Lombardi (Avellino) were arrested.

The chief of the Digos of Naples, Philip Bonfiglio, has issued statements on Radio Kiss Kiss Napoli. Here is what appears to be TuttoNapoli.net: "Last night we recorded the wounded, are Liverpool fans but it could be only English tourists. During the night there were several attacks and a total of five people were injured by stab to the lower limbs. Those arrested have all previous police. Also attacked the restaurant. For tonight we are concerned, I hope in the great maturity of the British fans, but the chances of a collision are real, because it is useless to say that the opposition will cause an accident. England fans are expected to arrive throughout the day today, I hope that the police are able to handle it. "

Dont be at yourself

Dub13 wrote: »

I know about 10 lads who are at the game and it has kicked off a good few times already.Their local rag didn't help the situation by claiming 1,000 Liverpool 'hooligans' were about to arrive in the city.

Any word of trouble after the game?

Dub13

NekkidBibleMan wrote: »

Any word of trouble after the game?

Its a bit early,I think the lads are still locked in.They are getting a police escort back to the city.

Blackpitts

I'm from Naples and I can tell it's not the worst city in the world.
I could tell the same about Dublin if I was a tourist and I had to walk in sheriff st. during the night. Like every big city (3,5 millions of inhabitants including the surroundings - 5 in the whole region) there are good and bad areas, go to visit Paris and spend few hours in a banlieu to understand what I mean.
Just 45 mins out of Naples there are Sorrento, Amalfi, Capri, Pompei and some quarters of the city itself are stunning.
I know that Napoli supporters are not the best, I'm ashamed of them when I read what they are capable of, but we have a big security issue with football in Italy (look what the Serbian supporters did last week in Genoa).
I also know of the bad reputation of Naples in Italy, unfortunately we deserved big part of it, but most is due to the usual stereotypes (South Italy = Africa) and I'm fed up to hear always the same stories.
btw, the match tonite was awful, hope the return will be better: FORZA NAPOLI!

Le King

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

I understand people who are more clued in should not go but sometimes tourists end up in the wrong place at the wrong time, maybe they didn't know Liverpool were playing their tonight or that the city was full of scummy lunatics.

When people say "ah they shouldn't have been there" i think it kind of excuses the behaviour of the dirt who commit these crimes.

Either way we're all agreed that the attackers are scum, 3 of these scumbags are up for an attempted murder charge supposedly so that's a bit of good news.

Well said, and in no way am I defending there actions. There is no place for these people in football.

I think nobody should go to Napoli, it's far too dangerous. That was my point, people should be able to go wherever they want and enjoy themselves. Unfortunately there are places like Napoli where people just shouldn't go.

Excellent news on the charge, but I doubt it will stand, unless there is a media campaign over in the UK over it. Sweep it under carpet as usual over there.

What scumbags attack a family? The more I think of it, the more it makes me sick. Absolutely sick.

Blackpitts

Le King wrote: »

Well said, and in no way am I defending there actions. There is no place for these people in football.

+1

Le King wrote: »

I think nobody should go to Napoli, it's far too dangerous.

Liverpool is not heaven on earth either and Dublin is plenty of dodgy areas, even in the city centre.
Should I tell my friends not to come here as it's far too dangerous?

carlop

Blackpitts wrote: »

I'm from Naples and I can tell it's not the worst city in the world.
I could tell the same about Dublin if I was a tourist and I had to walk in sheriff st. during the night. Like every big city (3,5 millions of inhabitants including the surroundings - 5 in the whole region) there are good and bad areas, go to visit Paris and spend few hours in a banlieu to understand what I mean.
Just 45 mins out of Naples there are Sorrento, Amalfi, Capri, Pompei and some quarters of the city itself are stunning.
I know that Napoli supporters are not the best, I'm ashamed of them when I read what they are capable of, but we have a big security issue with football in Italy (look what the Serbian supporters did last week in Genoa).
I also know of the bad reputation of Naples in Italy, unfortunately we deserved big part of it, but most is due to the usual stereotypes (South Italy = Africa) and I'm fed up to hear always the same stories.
btw, the match tonite was awful, hope the return will be better: FORZA NAPOLI!

My mum is from Naples and I've been there many, many times, though only once travelling independently and not with my parents. If you're streetwise it's a great city to visit, and the surrounding area is spectacular.

It doesn't have the pretension that the north of Italy has, and has a lot to offer. What happened is obviously inexcusable and there is a lot of scum in Naples, but it's not a cesspit as has been mentioned above. Plan ahead and don't go into the wrong areas.

Having said that, the day an English team are in town it's best to stay away. I get the impression that Italian ultras still regard the English as the ultimate hooligans, and as such they are the ultimate scalp. They don't possess the cranial capacity to consider that normal, decent people travel to away matches, though it wouldn't stop them attacking them anyway.

flahavaj

Blackpitts wrote: »

I'm from Naples and I can tell it's not the worst city in the world.
I could tell the same about Dublin if I was a tourist and I had to walk in sheriff st. during the night. Like every big city (3,5 millions of inhabitants including the surroundings - 5 in the whole region) there are good and bad areas, go to visit Paris and spend few hours in a banlieu to understand what I mean.
Just 45 mins out of Naples there are Sorrento, Amalfi, Capri, Pompei and some quarters of the city itself are stunning.
I know that Napoli supporters are not the best, I'm ashamed of them when I read what they are capable of, but we have a big security issue with football in Italy (look what the Serbian supporters did last week in Genoa).
I also know of the bad reputation of Naples in Italy, unfortunately we deserved big part of it, but most is due to the usual stereotypes (South Italy = Africa) and I'm fed up to hear always the same stories.
btw, the match tonite was awful, hope the return will be better: FORZA NAPOLI!

The main problems Naples has is that one of the first areas of the city you see when you get out of the train/bus stauion is pretty horrible. Bad first impression.

carlop

flahavaj wrote: »

The main problems Naples has is that one of the first areas of the city you see when you get out of the train/bus stauion is pretty horrible. Bad first impression.

A lot of train stations though tend to be in dodgy areas.

The main problem Naples has is that large parts of it are no-go areas and it has some deep-rooted issues relating to both poverty and crime.

However, this doesn't mean that the whole city is off-limits. There are some very nice parts, and some of the slightly dodgy parts have their own appeal too provided you're careful.

flahavaj

carlop wrote: »

A lot of train stations though tend to be in dodgy areas.

The main problem Naples has is that large parts of it are no-go areas and it has some deep-rooted issues relating to both poverty and crime.

However, this doesn't mean that the whole city is off-limits. There are some very nice parts, and some of the slightly dodgy parts have their own appeal too provided you're careful.

Naples' is particularly scummy though.

Sir Gallagher

It's just sad that football is used as an excuse for this kind of carry on, just like the clown outside Wayne Rooney's gaff tonight absolutely clueless. I look at rugby fans and GAA fans and admire them in a way, able to go to a match, perhaps with the family, and have a great day out, they're even able to sit amongst opposition fans without much hassle.

All in all football is the greatest sport in the world but at times the fans are complete and utter bell ends.

amacachi

grenache wrote: »

I'm living with two Italians, one is from Salerno, near Napoli. He's been telling me to steer well clear of Napoli if i decide to go back there this summer. Its a mob city, where the local mafia bosses have their hands in nearly everything - including the police. Added to this are the high concentrations of scum amongst the local Napolitani. Its a dangerous place for the average Italian to visit, nevermind tourists.

I always thought a mob-run city tended to be safe enough for tourists. Also was it in Naples a few years ago the mob had a dispute with the government after the police had a crackdown and no rubbish was collected for a few weeks? :pac:

population

Just home from the match and I didnt see a lick of trouble. The match itself though was an absolute shocker.

Also I encourage people to read Blackpitts post again. Every city has bad areas where frankly anything can happen. My heart goes out to this family who ran into these scumbags, but that does not mean, contrary to what a lot of people are saying in this thread, that all Napolitani are scum and that the whole city is a dangerous dump.

I used to live in East Wall and believe me I was more intimidated there than I have ever been here.

population

amacachi wrote: »

I always thought a mob-run city tended to be safe enough for tourists. Also was it in Naples a few years ago the mob had a dispute with the government after the police had a crackdown and no rubbish was collected for a few weeks? :pac:

There was and sadly still is the potential for another rubbish crisis here. But your interpretation of the cause of this is way off the mark. Mafia control of rubbish collection is just one facet of an increasingly complicated issue

OPENROAD

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

It's just sad that football is used as an excuse for this kind of carry on, just like the clown outside Wayne Rooney's gaff tonight absolutely clueless. I look at rugby fans and GAA fans and admire them in a way, able to go to a match, perhaps with the family, and have a great day out, they're even able to sit amongst opposition fans without much hassle.

All in all football is the greatest sport in the world but at times the fans are complete and utter bell ends.

That also exists in football certainly from my experience at premiership matches.

population

flahavaj wrote: »

Naples' is particularly scummy though.

Where did you visit in Naples? Or are you basing that remark on an overnight stay in Piazza Garibaldi?

population

Dub13 wrote: »

I know about 10 lads who are at the game and it has kicked off a good few times already.Their local rag didn't help the situation by claiming 1,000 Liverpool 'hooligans' were about to arrive in the city.

The papers absolutely contributed to this. You are English therefore you must be a hooligan etc. Lazy and frankly dangerous journalism. What part of the stadium were your mates in btw? I walked past the away fans section on my way to Curve B and all seemed reasonably quiet. Granted there were police everywhere but I still didnt come across any grief at the stadium at all.

flahavaj

population wrote: »

Where did you visit in Naples? Or are you basing that remark on an overnight stay in Piazza Garibaldi?

Went on a day trip, got some Pizza and left again. Didn't like it.

Boskowski

Gavin shels wrote: »

They're tapped, had to play their games behind closed doors after this iirc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUn9IUZxTj0

Did I miss something? What exactly is 'this'? Chanting and walking?

Pinturicchio

Boskowski wrote: »

Did I miss something? What exactly is 'this'? Chanting and walking?

The video doesn't really show what happened.

AntoSRFC wrote: »

Wasnt the video of the Napoli fans at Termini not the first away game after a ban? They met up in Napoli wrecked the train station there. Got on the train(didnt pay) wrecked that. Arrived in Termini wrecked that too. Then got banned again.

population

flahavaj wrote: »

Went on a day trip, got some Pizza and left again. Didn't like it.

Well i will not try to sell the city to you or anything of the sort but I would discourage people from making sweeping statements. Staying at Garibaldi is like staying in Ballymun for the night and deciding you dont like Dublin.

Blackpitts

flahavaj wrote: »

Went on a day trip, got some Pizza and left again. Didn't like it.

so you spent maybe 5 hours in a city and you think you have seen enough to judge it...i admire your perspicacity, sir! :rolleyes:

Blackpitts

Boskowski wrote: »

Did I miss something? What exactly is 'this'? Chanting and walking?

these are the Inter supporters, obviously Milan must be a kip! :rolleyes:

and that's a bit of Milan and Juve fans greeting each other, Torino must be **** too!

Walsh

population wrote: »

I used to live in East Wall and believe me I was more intimidated there than I have ever been here.

Getting a bit off topic here but East Wall is not that bad? I walk through it everyday and night and i'm yet to be attacked!

Dub13

population wrote: »

The papers absolutely contributed to this. You are English therefore you must be a hooligan etc. Lazy and frankly dangerous journalism. What part of the stadium were your mates in btw? I walked past the away fans section on my way to Curve B and all seemed reasonably quiet. Granted there were police everywhere but I still didnt come across any grief at the stadium at all.

They were all in the away end,not sure what section.Here is another post from Irishkop,seems the police did not handle it great.

We had flares thrown at our buses, we were taken on a 1.5hr bus ride around the motorways of Naples pregame and the police dropped us all back at the port from where we had to walk 15-20 back into town where all our hotels where. Great job there from the cops - a ****in massive target for the Ultras

On the way back we had groups of scooters and cars coming up close and egging us on and thankfully no Reds responded. Immaculate from what I saw of our lot.

Went out to McNasty's a whiles ago in the main piazza and one of our lads has been stabbed in the head - he looks ok considering. He's standing up with a cloth on the gash and the place is crawling with cops.

A ****ing nightmare - still can't believe the police dumped us at the port and left us to make our way back to town to face the Ultras.

I'm sure there will be other stories tonight - the piazza is swarming with scooters and cops. It's been a very sad few days for football.

population

Walsh wrote: »

Getting a bit off topic here but East Wall is not that bad? I walk through it everyday and night and i'm yet to be attacked!

And I hope you never are sir, but unfortuneatly I was and that was only the beginning of some of the shenanigans I had to deal with there. Anyway it is indeed off topic so another time etc

population

Dub13 wrote: »

They were all in the away end,not sure what section.Here is another post from Irishkop,seems the police did not handle it great.

Christ that is a stunning display of ineptitude by the police. The port is a pretty scummy area regardless whether you are a tourist or not so to leave them there and say "They should be grand here" is utter lunacy.

I guess I am just trying to say that it is not only Napoli Ultras that are problematic. James Richardson made a comment recalling being held at knifepoint outside the Stadio Olimpico in Rome on the guardian podcast today. Italy in general has a problem with "Ultras" attatched to all teams, which did make me laugh when the Italian press went on to pontificate about the Serbs who acted the maggot during the international game without paying an ounce of attention to the ongoing problems here, and again it is not solely a "Naples thing". In fact I would recommend anyone to go see a game at San Paulo and visit the Distinti Superiore as it is the spot families go to and the atmosphere is quite welcoming.

As a Pool fan with a serious soft spot for Napoli, I was really looking forward to the game and most of my Neapolitan mates felt like they were finally playing amongst the great teams of Europe again with Liverpool coming to town. Both they and I are completely deflated by the behaviour of some idiots and hope it will not affect Pool fans from realising the high esteem the club is actually held in here by the real football supporters.