Rooney signs new 5 year deal

flahavaj

TheDoc wrote: »

Was in the shop grabbing lunch and had a nosey at a few papers, running with the notion he changed his mind because his child was sent death threats by United fans?

Wow, thats a new low and a paper looking to jump with the story but has no source close ot it.

Is his child old enough to read death threats?:pac:

And if that kinda stuff factored into Rooney's decision at all then surely he'd be getting the first plane out of Manchester?

killwill

Mr Alan wrote: »

Didn't Ferguson say that they'd not talked about figures with Rooney?

True, but surely when Rooney read the contract draft there would have been a section on money in it, no?

TheDoc

flahavaj wrote: »

Is his child old enough to read death threats?:pac:

And if that kinda stuff factored into Rooney's decision at all then surely he'd be getting the first plane out of Manchester?

Yeah thats why I lol'd at the story, surely if your child was being threatened youd be on the first ticket out, not staying to appease the threats.

Daily Mirror, lolfeast

Liam O

The Sun say that he is on 280k a week :rolleyes: they even have a list of the top ten paid players in the world and Rooney's number 1, and Messi, the actual highest paid player in the world, is 5th

Dempsey

Liam O wrote: »

The Sun say that he is on 280k a week :rolleyes: they even have a list of the top ten paid players in the world and Rooney's number 1, and Messi, the actual highest paid player in the world, is 5th

Did they mention that Rooney's is paying 50% tax and Messi only has to pay 30%?

L'prof

Liam O wrote: »

The Sun say that he is on 280k a week :rolleyes: they even have a list of the top ten paid players in the world and Rooney's number 1, and Messi, the actual highest paid player in the world, is 5th

Messi was top if you include wages and off-field earnings, not so sure he was top if you just look at the wages.

The Muppet

There no way Rooney is on the money reported, If united were going to make him the highest paid player in the world they would not have gone public with events this week and Rooney would have signed the contract with no fuss.

The fact that they did go public leads me to believe they didn't improve on the contract they had offered him, He was looking for more threatening to leave, Fergie called his bluff bluff by going public forcing him to make his choice.

the_monkey

This whole Rooney saga was a PR stunt to get the spotlight off united's poor form, Tomorrow the rest of the team will have something to prove and will get a massive win.

kryogen

my understanding of the contract is that he had no improvement in his basic from the original offer (150k) but he has got an improved image rights agreement and a better bonus structure if we win the league/champions league

Mr Alan

kryogen wrote: »

my understanding of the contract is that he had no improvement in his basic from the original offer (150k) but he has got an improved image rights agreement and a better bonus structure if we win the league/champions league

Source?

Ferguson has said that that there was no offer inclusive of wages up until the other day so the notion that he signed a contract for wages which had been offered to him months ago is entirely fictitious designed purely to make united fans feel better about having their club bent over and raped by Wazza.

kryogen

So now you take everything Fergie says as Gospel Alan? Thats kinda funny to me

Mr Alan

Not gospel but when it's something that was quite trivial at the time and of no benefit for him to lie about, then that's kinda backed up the all the media reporting that in a clamour to keep him Utd have offered him a quite ludicrous pay packet.

Sean Bateman

TheDoc wrote: »

Was in the shop grabbing lunch and had a nosey at a few papers, running with the notion he changed his mind because his child was sent death threats by United fans?

Wow, thats a new low and a paper looking to jump with the story but has no source close ot it.

What a ridiculous story.

If it was indeed true, Rooney would have left immediately and rightly so.

kryogen

Mr Alan wrote: »

Not gospel but when it's something that was quite trivial at the time and of no benefit for him to lie about, then that's kinda backed up the all the media reporting that in a clamour to keep him Utd have offered him a quite ludicrous pay packet.

We couldnt afford to offer him a ludicrous pay packet, well most top footballers have ludicrous pay packets, but we could not afford to offer what has been reported today as a basic wage.

Anything to do with money is not trivial when it comes to a contract negotiation

Mitch Connor

Mr Alan wrote: »

Source?

Ferguson has said that that there was no offer inclusive of wages up until the other day so the notion that he signed a contract for wages which had been offered to him months ago is entirely fictitious designed purely to make united fans feel better about having their club bent over and raped by Wazza.

he actually said both if what you say is correct, cause he def said the offer was still on the table.

Mr Alan

Think he more meant the door was still open.

Mitch Connor

Mr Alan wrote: »

Think he more meant the door was still open.

so you are taking at face value some of what he says, then reading implications into stuff he said which was also quite clear.

Fair enough.

Love how you are selective on the contract stuff in general, like how some papers reporting 160 as his wages (with increases to ~200k if we continue to be successfull) is disregarded cause others say 200k+

Dempsey

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/danroan/2010/10/how_rooneys_u-turn_came_about.html

This article covers the events that changed Rooney's mind pretty well.

There's something about all this that strikes me as odd. When Rooney first signalled to Gill back in August that he wasnt signing a new deal, why didnt the club ask him for his reasons, they then could have arranged the conference with the Glazers and thrash out an agreement and all this could have been easily resolved, with him getting a wage hike, without the glaring media spotlight and damage to his relationship with the fans/manager/club/teammates etc.

kryogen

The media spot light was necessary imo to get the Glazers to pull the finger out. Save face

#15

Mr Alan wrote: »

Source?

Ferguson has said that that there was no offer inclusive of wages up until the other day so the notion that he signed a contract for wages which had been offered to him months ago is entirely fictitious designed purely to make united fans feel better about having their club bent over and raped by Wazza.

LOL @ the tabloid language.

Getting raped by keeping a player they wanted to keep?

I suppose it's the small things that get you through the day:pac:

kryogen

you have to understand them though, this would have been serious **** material for non united fans for a long time to come

Especially for people who support teams currently sitting in the relegation zone

K-9

So wait a sec, the main opinion seemed to be he was leaving for money, so now he is staying, it isn't for more money?

kryogen

K-9 wrote: »

So wait a sec, the main opinion seemed to be he was leaving for money, so now he is staying, it isn't for more money?

guess it depends on which poster you talk to considering not everybody thought money was the main factor

#15

K-9 wrote: »

So wait a sec, the main opinion seemed to be he was leaving for money, so now he is staying, it isn't for more money?

Common tactic from ABUs. Take conflicting opinions from different comments by various Utd supporters, and present it as a contradictory consensus.

Bet you won't be able to find one poster who holds the opinion, or has said, ''he was leaving for money, so now he is staying, it isn't for more money''

CorkMan

Cleese wrote: »

I am a United fan and this is dispicable.

His antics are shocking, the money is obscene.

TBH I imagine his agents had a say in his statements. I would imagine they get a lot more money off his new contract.

Money talks, and it's voice it much louder than any club anthems/loyalty.

K-9

Indeed Kryogen, that is why I said most. You are one of the smarter posters around here that can take a little criticism.

It wasn't even criticism. The vast majority were suggesting it was money, I was one of the few saying it was trophies, though obviously money was a factor.

I think dismissing suggestions of an even higher offer makes no sense, nobody knows.

Jaysus the ABU card is easily played, bit like the racist or pc card on AH, especially for something ye don't know yourselves.

kryogen

K-9 wrote: »

Indeed Kryogen, that is why I said most. You are one of the smarter posters around here that can take a little criticism.

It wasn't even criticism. The vast majority were suggesting it was money, I was one of the few saying it was trophies, though obviously money was a factor.

I think dismissing suggestions of an even higher offer makes no sense, nobody knows.

Jaysus the ABU card is easily played, bit like the racist or pc card on AH, especially for something ye don't know yourselves.

I didnt play the ABU card did i? i was actually answering your question seriously!

I would doubt that you can find a poster who was saying he was leaving for the money and is now saying that he is staying for something other then more money though.

#15

K-9 wrote: »

Jaysus the ABU card is easily played, bit like the racist or pc card on AH, especially for something ye don't know yourselves.

Sorry, hard to know who's WUMming or not the last few days. No hard feelings eh?:cool:

K-9

kryogen wrote: »

I didnt play the ABU card did i? i was actually answering your question seriously!

I would doubt that you can find a poster who was saying he was leaving for the money and is now saying that he is staying for something other then more money though.

Yes, but I don't think anybody can completely rule out a better deal than was offered during August.

Oh, that wasn't aimed at you btw.

I called it originally that it was contract negotiations and I'm happy enough he stays at United, rather than City.

KittyeeTrix

flahavaj wrote: »

Regardless of how Rooney has behaved there's still a hell of a difference between re-signing for a club that has won three Prems, a CL, 2 Carling Cups and a World Club in the last 4 years and signing for a club thats won jack sh*t in 34 years but pays the likes of Robinho and Emannuel Adebayour massive anmounts of money.

Irrespective of what ye said earlier in the week, ye'd have wet yeerselves in glee if Rooney had signed for ye, he's a far better vplayer than any striker ye have currently.

Whatever Flah:D

KittyeeTrix

flahavaj wrote: »

Regardless of how Rooney has behaved there's still a hell of a difference between re-signing for a club that has won three Prems, a CL, 2 Carling Cups and a World Club in the last 4 years and signing for a club thats won jack sh*t in 34 years but pays the likes of Robinho and Emannuel Adebayour massive anmounts of money.

Irrespective of what ye said earlier in the week, ye'd have wet yeerselves in glee if Rooney had signed for ye, he's a far better vplayer than any striker ye have currently.

adebayour with 3 goals this week would beg to differ!!!;)
Money well spent in my opinion

MuPpItJoCkEy

fluffyorganic1 wrote: »

adebayour with 3 goals this week would beg to differ!!!;)
Money well spent in my opinion

I don't rate Adebayour much myself. He has bursts of goals and then they dry up for a while. He wouldn't be a constant first choice but that's just my opinion. Really think the lad is over rated.

flahavaj

fluffyorganic1 wrote: »

adebayour with 3 goals this week would beg to differ!!!;)
Money well spent in my opinion

He's not fit to tie Rooney's shoelaces and a terrible attitude to boot. The epitome of a mercenary tbh.

KittyeeTrix

flahavaj wrote: »

He's not fit to tie Rooney's shoelaces and a terrible attitude to boot. The epitome of a mercenary tbh.

Yeah, gotta hate those mercenaries tbh, an absolute disgrace to the good name of football:D

kryogen

Adebayor isnt fit to lace Lee Martins boots tbh

TheDoc

Sean Bateman wrote: »

What a ridiculous story.

If it was indeed true, Rooney would have left immediately and rightly so.

Agreed , but I'm reading more and more articles and stories about how a number of fans gathered outside his house in Eric Cantona masks threatening Kai, may be the story the mail was referring too.

mailburner

flahavaj wrote: »

Regardless of how Rooney has behaved there's still a hell of a difference between re-signing for a club that has won three Prems, a CL, 2 Carling Cups and a World Club in the last 4 years and signing for a club thats won jack sh*t in 34 years but pays the likes of Robinho and Emannuel Adebayour massive anmounts of money.

Irrespective of what ye said earlier in the week, ye'd have wet yeerselves in glee if Rooney had signed for ye, he's a far better vplayer than any striker ye have currently.

not a city fan myself but id much rather have tevez than rooney
for the remainder of the season

CR 7

TheDoc wrote: »

Agreed , but I'm reading more and more articles and stories about how a number of fans gathered outside his house in Eric Cantona masks threatening Kai, may be the story the mail was referring too.

:pac:

Now, even I could make up something better than that.

TheDoc

Scary image in fairness

ntlbell

kryogen wrote: »

Adebayor isnt fit to lace Lee Martins boots tbh

not his left one anywho

jacool

Park Ji Sung wrote: »

:pac:

Now, even I could make up something better than that.

Yes, there are clearly 2 stories being mixed up here.
1. The Nike ads in the city which had "Join City and You're Dead" and
2. The 30 or so balaclava wearing people who gathered outside Rooney's house overnight.
At no point was anything said about Kai.
Regardless, though, I wonder are these the "fans" he wants at the game each week?

RasTa

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