Pokémon BW Players Thread SPOILERS

Buzzthebatgirl

For those of us that have Pokémon Black and White here's a thread to chat, share info, organise trades, post news and other BW stuff without spoiling the game for those that don't have it or want to wait

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I mentioned this to El Nick earlier today, but for those of us using the Global Link Website, there are two passwords available for it.

From the main log in menu, hit the big orange button in the bottom right:
キャンペーン(Campaigns Menu).

Click on the one that says Pikachu C-Gear (ピカチュウis Pikachu) and copy and paste in this password: ゆめのせかい

To change your C-Gear skin click on the red Pokéball with the DS on it, click on the C-gear skin, Pokédex skin or Musical Song you want, then click on the button on the top right. When you sync back to your DS game you will have the selected items in your game

To get the Croagunk with the ability Poison Hand (Poisons on Contact), copy and paste this password: コロコロであおう

Banjo

Cheers for the headsup on the Croagunk. I've never been a big fan but now that they can have the Touch Of Death I'm intrigued

How do you actually get the thing off the DreamWorld though? Is it downloaded at your next sync automatically?
I hope not.
I've a feeling I may have lost mine - I took Wiket, who at this point is clinically narcoleptic, out of the DreamWorld last night after entering the Croagunk code and feeding a female DoDuo to the Hungry Tree God. After 40 minutes of WiFi churn it still hadn't downloaded my hapless little Hooterii pal, and then the battery went. Plugged in, reconnected, Wiket came back in about 2 mins but there's no sign of a DoDuo or a Croagunk.

Oh hungry tree!
You took my Oran Berry,
We had a deal,
You got a free meal,
And I,
Nothing.

So what does your team look like?
I've just got the 4th badge, currently my core team is :
Viper - L27 Janovy (Smug snake with legs)
Teebo - L28 Haderia (Scotty dog)
Nymph - L26 Hahakurimo (Leafy mantis)
Farns - L24 Hatooboo (Turkey pidgeon)
Xen - L22 Munna (psychic elephant cushion)
Pando - L27 Mogurew (Mole)

but I have a couple of subs - one of those ground/dark gators (who was less useful in the Electric Gym than I thought - those Emongas are a pain in the hole to hit), a selection of elemental monkeys and one of those yokes that looks like a cross between a pebble and an erogenous zone. Also I got a Zorua off the GTS and am training him up with a Lotad and one of those cosmonaut-faced tadpoles. They're not as awesome as the hype might make you think...

Does Zorua always take on the appearance of the last 'Mon in your team until a punch is landed?

Buzzthebatgirl

When I entered in the Croagunk password, it was accepted and then I got a screen where I clicked a bush and Croagunk appeared. From then on it was on my Noticeboard and downloaded during my next sync. Have a look in the High Link, it might already be waiting for you.

I've already finished up on the story mode, I'm spending my in-game time EVing, GTS Live!, and upping the numbers of Zorua in the wild.

My in-game party was:
Rage, the ugly red headed dragon
Vince, the Victini
Pants the Loyal. Punk Gangser trousers dude
iSmug the Grass Snake Starter
Jason the "Get a Hair cut" Hippy Monkey
Buzz the Happy Bat

Pants has been the most awesome.com, he still hangs around with me, babysitting the lower levelled 'mon

SamIAmNot

So for those playing the game, is there many 3v3 battles or 2v2 for that matter...

Also, just looking at all the starters stats and there not as good as the previous generations, are they any good at all cause there move pools look limited too :L

Banjo

Had a couple of 2v2s - including maybe 2 random encounter ones - but no 3v3s so far. Don't know if they feature in the solo game. Or maybe I've just not looked hard enough. Actually now I think about it it's surprising how often 2 guys challenge you (or you and another friendly character) and it doesn't result in a 2v2 battle...

My apologies to the Hungry Tree God - it sent me my Croagunk last night. Looks like it ate my Doduo though....

Have one of those punky flasher/trouser droppers in the box, might give him a run out.

TheChrisD

Wait, hang on...

So am I correcting in saying that you're not allowed access the eastern part of Isshu's "ring" of routes and cities until you've beaten the Elite Four - thus making the entire continent a directly linear route to Victory Road?

This game has disappointed me...

Buzzthebatgirl

TheChrisD wrote: »

Wait, hang on...

So am I correcting in saying that you're not allowed access the eastern part of Isshu's "ring" of routes and cities until you've beaten the Elite Four - thus making the entire continent a directly linear route to Victory Road?

This game has disappointed me...

Yes, but trainers at the eastern side have 'mon at Levels 60-80

Angron

Would that not, kinda, make it like Gold/Silver and its remakes, where you couldn't get to Kanto until you beat the Elite Four?

SamIAmNot

I see no one dared to comment on my remark of the new starters. Are they as bad as they look stat wise?

Banjo

Can't comment on proper battling, but the Grass starter is unspectacular and one-dimensional so far in-game (mine is has boosted Special Attack at the expense of Attack - mild or modest? - so sticking with SP attacks has left me very grass-centric). Planning to run mine with Leech Seed, GigaDrain, Ice Beam and Toxic eventually because I'm unimaginative and am in denial about the mediocre defense stats. The other two look a bit more interesting.

Damnitt. I crippled my Munna by swapping Psybeam for that crappy psychic attack that only hits Mons of the same type as the user. God, I hate playing without access to Bulbapedia. Had to spend the whole day catching a new one and training it up...

TheChrisD

Denny M wrote: »

Would that not, kinda, make it like Gold/Silver and its remakes, where you couldn't get to Kanto until you beat the Elite Four?

Yes, but at least Kanto's not as obvious on the map as the Eastern half of Isshu, where they just put construction workers in front of the gate on Route 16 to stop you advancing.

Banjo wrote: »

Damnitt. I crippled my Munna by swapping Psybeam for that crappy psychic attack that only hits Mons of the same type as the user. God, I hate playing without access to Bulbapedia. Had to spend the whole day catching a new one and training it up...

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Synchro_Noise_(move)?

Banjo

^ yes, that one. Can't see what situations it'd be terribly useful since most of the users will be of type Psychic, so you're unlikely to do even normal-effective damage with it.

TheChrisD

Firstly: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Mirror_Type_(move)

Secondly: Synchro Noise isn't limited to Psychic types as you can see. Under normal circumstances, 7 'mons would hit Normal-types and 4 would hit Flying-types for neutral damage.

Buzzthebatgirl

Banjo wrote: »

. I crippled my Munna by swapping Psybeam for that crappy psychic attack that only hits Mons of the same type as the user. God, I hate playing without access to Bulbapedia. Had to spend the whole day catching a new one and training it up...

If you have an iPod/iPhone/Android phone then search the store for an App called Lukomon by Kombo Studio. It costs about €4, but it's an offline Bulbapedia for Gen 3 to Gen 5 games WITH IV Calculator (not Gen 5 compatable just yet). Also does a MoveDex and ItemDex built in and detailed locations (again not fully up to Gen 5).

@SamIAmNot: I noticed that my iSmug wasn't pulling her weight once she hit the Lv40 mark. I don't know about the other starters in-game though.....

Banjo

TheChrisD wrote: »

Firstly: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Mirror_Type_(move)

Secondly: Synchro Noise isn't limited to Psychic types as you can see. Under normal circumstances, 7 'mons would hit Normal-types and 4 would hit Flying-types for neutral damage.

Neutral damage! Hold the front page!
Granted it's not as useless as I make it out to be but it's at best a highly situational move and has questionable value in the solo game.
i think I'm missing the point with Mirror Type unless you're suggesting that I should keep my old Munna because it's about to be attacked by a horde of angry Staryu. I knew my in-game bespectacled chum was planning something big but staryu? The fiend!

I'm disappointed to hear the grass starter doesn't get any better. I'm about to hit the Ground gym, so I guess Viper is about to have his blaze of glory before vanishing into boxed-up obscurity

I'm becoming quite fond of my pants dropping punky fighter thing. Thanks for the tip Buzz!

Buzzthebatgirl

Banjo wrote: »

I'm becoming quite fond of my pants dropping punky fighter thing. Thanks for the tip Buzz!

It's all about the pants...

:pac:

TheChrisD

What does everyone have against Smug at higher levels? It has the combination of Leaf Blade and Coil Around, what more do you need?

Banjo

Well, when you put it that way, an Adamant Smugleaf

Personally I don't like inaccurate attacks - I'd be interested to see exactly how Coil affects the hit-ratio of moves like Slam or Iron Tail - and the movepool seems to me a little narrow with the non-grass attacks tending to be either low-powered or inaccurate. Given the choice I can't see why you'd pick this over any other grass starter, let alone any other 'Mon.

In-game, grass is the least effective starter type for the gyms, and with it being the best looking of the 3 starters but there being little in the learned-move pool to give your Smugleaf a wider role in the team it's natural that people be disappointed.

TheChrisD

Banjo wrote: »

I'd be interested to see exactly how Coil affects the hit-ratio of moves like Slam or Iron Tail

Every increase to the Accuracy stat increases it by 33%. So, one use of Coil Around + Slam = 75% * 4/3 = a guaranteed hit, as well as the 50% boost to physical Attack and Defense.

Buzzthebatgirl

TheChrisD wrote: »

What does everyone have against Smug at higher levels? It has the combination of Leaf Blade and Coil Around, what more do you need?

Lack of full coverage bothered me, Coil Around and Leaf Blade fails at KOing other grassies, birdies etc. All Dragon Tail does is put Smuggy into delay before attacking, in my case usually getting itself killed before actually killing anything. Would it be so hard for it to get something like....um Poison Jab for coverage?

SamIAmNot

I wish that smug was better. I was torn between him and the water guy. Guess I know who I'm picking now

Banjo

Finally had a go of the breeding centre last night. It's such a simple little change but I love the way the guy just shouts at you when you go by and there's an egg to collect. No more dicking about with tapping the Poketch or crossing over the nearest route boundary a billion times.

Incidentally, a bit of hunting on the GTS with a box full of Pokabu means I now have females of the 3 starters if anyone who doesn't go along to the meetups and was hithertofore too shy to ask for one is looking for one. Can't promise the moves will be anything more than standard though...

Here, there's a house after the 4th Gym before the magnetic cave where there are a bunch of seasonal charts on the wall and trees behind glass. I figured out enough to show them one of those Deer who change with the seasons, and now when I go into the building they have one of their own running around. Is there a point to this or something else I need to do to unlock some awesomeness?

Anyone know where the Name Rater is? I usually chicken out of conversations that end with a Yes/No that displays your current team in case I swap my deluxe Tadpole/Cosmonaut for an Onix...

Atavan-Halen

The name rater is in Hiun city. Cant remember which building he's in but it's one of the apartment blocks on the ground floor. He's an old man so shouldn't be too hard to find!

Game finally arrived on thursday!! Having a bit of trouble with the 4th gym leader, the electric one. Those flying-electric pokémon are so annoying 'cos I can't hit them with ground attacks. More levelling up needed!

Banjo

Cheers - I'll go look for him.

It's not just ground attacks, the little bastards dodge EVERYTHING! (at least I think that's what's happening... their health doesn't go down and there's a lot of japanese text) Having said that, the dark/ground Crocodile should be able to hand out a bitey/crunchey beatdown and I think your Rockgina should have evolved by then - not only does it look less vulgar but it can rockblast through Emongas like a knife through a squirrel.

Took me weeks to get to that gym... how do you people get through the game so quickly? Things are moving a tiny bit faster since I got the free Lucky Egg (thank god I don't have to hunt chanseys for them any more) but jaysus - training up to a Gym-take-on-able level is sloooow (I tend to aim for 5 levels above where I was for the prev gym so for example I'm grinding my team to 35 for the 6th gym. Is that overkill?)

Atavan-Halen

They have high speed too so that doesn't help. Also that annoying u-turn electric move is very annoying :mad: I've been training up the croc alright so I'll just have to keep working away at it!

TheChrisD

Oh goody, I'm not the only person to find Emonga to be the most annoying piece of **** ever invented!!!

Buzzthebatgirl

Banjo

Finally broke the 60cm barrier in the ice cream scoop minigame on Dreamworld. Alas, nothing magical happens

TheChrisD

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-

Generation V
Thief no longer steals non-player character's Pokémon's items permanently.

Angron

Well then.. That makes Thief pretty bloody pointless outside of stealing a Berry in battle..

Banjo

Well, if it's only NPC items you can't steal, you can still nick stuff off the wild Pokemon, right?


Right?

Buzzthebatgirl

Banjo wrote: »

Well, if it's only NPC items you can't steal, you can still nick stuff off the wild Pokemon, right?


Right?

I've managed to nick a few Black Sludges off the large bin bag Pokémon, so yes

Angron

Buzzthebatgirl wrote: »

I've managed to nick a few Black Sludges off the large bin bag Pokémon, so yes

Phew, I was seriously worried you couldn't steal wild Poke-items there.

Buzzthebatgirl

Can 100% confirm that random shinys are in BW, found this a whole 5 minutes ago:

Atavan-Halen

The first boards.ie shiny in B&W! Hurray!

Angron

And I still have yet to find a single shiny in HG..

Buzzthebatgirl

Denny M wrote: »

And I still have yet to find a single shiny in HG..

Same in HG, no shiny for me other than the Gyarados.

Who's that Pokemon?

Buzzthebatgirl

Gaah double post, but I didn't want to put this in the plush thread as it's obvious spoiler image. Oh well, plush final evos!

Source in Japanese

Atavan-Halen

So how's everyone getting in in B&W?

I'm currently at victory road after getting the 8th badge. Might change my team up a bit as it's very ground type orientated. Any good recommendations for the elite 4?

Banjo

Just finished victory road this afternoon. Bring your Strength HM'er along. Not 100% necessary, but makes any future exploring quicker. Surf comes in handy too but again, not required to get to the top.

Also, if you hunt around the Emo-Dragon that you might have seen in the last Gym is knocking around. They're buggers to find (only seen one so far) but they're there. No idea if they're any good mind...

Not sure what to bring along either, my team is heavy on the Darks which can't be good. Not that I'm racist. Quite fond of my red-headed craggy dragon that I found just before the 8th gym and who tore that gym leader a new one.

Atavan-Halen

Banjo wrote: »

Just finished victory road this afternoon. Bring your Strength HM'er along. Not 100% necessary, but makes any future exploring quicker. Surf comes in handy too but again, not required to get to the top.

Also, if you hunt around the Emo-Dragon that you might have seen in the last Gym is knocking around. They're buggers to find (only seen one so far) but they're there. No idea if they're any good mind...

Not sure what to bring along either, my team is heavy on the Darks which can't be good. Not that I'm racist. Quite fond of my red-headed craggy dragon that I found just before the 8th gym and who tore that gym leader a new one.

Yeah I have surf and strength on 2 of my Pokémon on my team anyway so I should be fine. I'll have a look around for him but I also caught one of those dragons before the last gym so I'm happy enough with him for a dragon type! I was going to use him last in the last gym with his dragon claw to just so I could chip away with the others then bring him out to destroy. Turned out I didn't need him as the gym was very easy!

Anyone else think the wild pokémon encounter rate is very high though? Can be quite annoying if you forgot to stock up on max repels.

TheChrisD

Well I finished the Elite 4 on stream a few days ago, and by god, there's enough twists and turns and deviances from the norm you wouldn't know!

The main thing about the E4 though is that they're not as tough as previous incarnations. Fighting guy uses only pure Fighting and all the others have secondary typings you can exploit.

As for 'mons, at this stage it's evident who's good and who's bad. Early 'mons are actually quite bad right now and even your gifted elemental monkey will have problems. Then again it's hard to find stuff with good base stat totals in this generation.

Atavan-Halen

Yeah I finished it there last night too. A bit disappointed by the difficulty level but wow was I impressed after beating the 4 guys! By far the best looking game on the DS! Also had a wtf moment when catching Zekrom. First encounter, got it's health in the red, threw 1 dusk ball and caught it. I was like, ummm is that it?! I was expecting a bit more of a challenge. I also found it's easier to catch Pokémon than previous games just in general.

But yeah! Now that I got the E4 out of the way it's time to explore, trade, random wi-fi battle and have some fun!

TheChrisD

atavan-halen wrote: »

Also had a wtf moment when catching Zekrom. First encounter, got it's health in the red, threw 1 dusk ball and caught it. I was like, ummm is that it?! I was expecting a bit more of a challenge.

I was a little surprised as well when I found out Resh/Zek have a catch rate of 45! (Same as Dialga/Palkia!)

Angron

Heh, I remember how easy it was to catch Palkia, once caught it in one turn using a Quick Ball.

Banjo

atavan-halen wrote: »

I also found it's easier to catch Pokémon than previous games just in general.

I've found on a couple of occasions I've caught 'mon on the first wiggle of the ball - and I'm not paralysing, sleeping or false swiping them yet - which I don't remember ever happening on prev gens. On the other hand though, I've accidentally OHKO'd a lot of basic/unevolved critters by mistake just because the wild encounter levels get so high, but the unevolved wildies don't stack up well against a well trained crack poké-unit

Still dithering over a team for the E4... I always overthink this bit.... Quick question : Did you go in blind and hope for the best or did you use a Hiragana translator and Bulbapedia to figure out what was being sent out against you so you could type match?

TheChrisD

Banjo wrote: »

Still dithering over a team for the E4... I always overthink this bit.... Quick question : Did you go in blind and hope for the best or did you use a Hiragana translator and Bulbapedia to figure out what was being sent out against you so you could type match?

I went in blind with the exception of being spoiled by Bulbapedia navigation templates telling me who the Elite Four actually consisted of and knowing their primary types as those too were spoiled seeing as their backgrounds were their type colours... So, no, had no idea what was being sent out against me other than trying to guess what they could have.

Atavan-Halen

I went in blind too. Took my strongest 'mon with me, stocked up on medicines and hoped for the best!

Also when you catch a pokémon in just one shake it's a critical catch, just like you have critical hits and stuff. I only found out when buzzthebatgirl told me :P

Buzzthebatgirl

Going into the E4 blind is the best way

I'm currently preparing for VGC 2011. By looking at the useful playable Pokemon, it would seem that having a fast Taunter, Genie with Imprison, big power fighting type move and a good Ice Punch/Ice Beam dude will go a long way.

I love critical catches! They are so random and don't always catch, but the whoosh is amazing!

TheChrisD

Seriously, they let you just waltz right into the post-game with whatever you had in N's Castle and let you just get demolished by 50+ wilds and Trainers with 65's?!?!

Atavan-Halen

Yep it's like "elite 4, pah! The eastern side is where it's challenging!"

On another note, I've been having fun with the gts negotiation. Although I don't have much to trade so people keep giving me sad faces