Future of International Rules

JSK 252

No, I dont think it should be scraped but what bemuses me is that this year TG4 had the broadcasting rights to televise the games live which in my opinion completely lost the appeal for many people simply because they couldnt stand listening to Irish language commentary for 72 minutes and might not be bothered as a result to wait for the highlights on rte. i know myself I couldnt stand the gibber jabber of not understanding half of what the commentators were saying and I got an A2 in higher level Irish in my leaving cert last year. Its like as though they mumble their words because they know they can!

O Riain

would anyone be in favour of provincial teams facing off against states in aus? the only problem with this would be
a) lack of country representation
b) most of the aussie rules teams/players hail from melbourne, most cities outside of melbourne(victoria) only have one team(including sydney(nsw) who have one with the swans) and these are poor in comparison to the rest

but it would create more games, and POSSIBLY, more appeal?

dartbhoy

From the bit of the game I saw last night there was nothing to persuade me that this rules game should be scrapped,I can't see no benefits in this for GAA players.

Xavi6

O Riain wrote: »

would anyone be in favour of provincial teams facing off against states in aus? the only problem with this would be
a) lack of country representation
b) most of the aussie rules teams/players hail from melbourne, most cities outside of melbourne(victoria) only have one team(including sydney(nsw) who have one with the swans) and these are poor in comparison to the rest

but it would create more games, and POSSIBLY, more appeal?

That could be done as State of Origin.

For example, there's plenty of West Australians playing in Victoria even though the state just has two teams.

flahavaj

Compromise Rules is a loada boll*x IMO. As Mickey Harte said all it does is put our best players in the shop window to be poached by AFL clubs. And I don't buy this whole argument about every player's dream being to represent their country - my hole. You ask any lad raised in a GAA environment what his dream is and they'll all tell you its to win a county title with their club or an All Ireland for their county. Representing Ireland doesn't even come into it.

I'd rather they resurrected the Railway Cup and got the Croke park marketing machine behind that. I'd pay good money to see a Munster forward line made up of the likes of Corbett, the two E Kellys, Noel McGrath, Mullane, the O' Connor brothers take on a Leinster made up of mainly the KK lads. You'd easily fill Thurles or even Croker if you did a double header with football as well.

Compromise Rules me hole, its not even entertaining.

rebel girl 15

flahavaj wrote: »

Compromise Rules is a loada boll*x IMO. As Mickey Harte said all it does is put our best players in the shop window to be poached by AFL clubs. And I don't buy this whole argument about every player's dream being to represent their country - my hole. You ask any lad raised in a GAA environment what his dream is and they'll all tell you its to win a county title with their club or an All Ireland for their county. Representing Ireland doesn't even come into it.
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The piece in bold is bullsh*t imo - the clubs keep a sharp eye on the whole championship, not just intercounty senior, but minor especially, not just two games. Of the six players on the panel that had Australian Rules experience, four of those came home to GAA, so what does that say for AFL and GAA???? If a player decides to go and play a professional foreign game, travelling that far to do so, then fair dues to him - no person, I don't care how successful a person is, they should not come out with statements like that. Its not poaching, its giving guys an opportunity to play a professional game. GAA won't turn professional, the money simply isn't there to do so.


Its not about asking any lad, its about asking the inter county players in the country. Of course growing up it is to represent your county, but looking at other sports, there is a chance to play for your country, which is very special. And there were plenty of players that made themselves available for trials.

What Mickey Harte et al would be better looking at how many young players are being lost to soccer and rugby, and how many players we are losing out of this country because of the job situation here

flahavaj

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

The piece in bold is bullsh*t imo - the clubs keep a sharp eye on the whole championship, not just intercounty senior, but minor especially, not just two games. Of the six players on the panel that had Australian Rules experience, four of those came home to GAA, so what does that say for AFL and GAA???? If a player decides to go and play a professional foreign game, travelling that far to do so, then fair dues to him - no person, I don't care how successful a person is, they should not come out with statements like that. Its not poaching, its giving guys an opportunity to play a professional game. GAA won't turn professional, the money simply isn't there to do so.

But by collaborating with and engaging in this way with the AFL its hardly issuing a "hands-off" message to them about players. Obviously you can't stop them scouting the championships etc - thats no reason to actively engage with them either and give them even more lines of communication to Irish talent.

Its not about asking any lad, its about asking the inter county players in the country. Of course growing up it is to represent your county, but looking at other sports, there is a chance to play for your country, which is very special. And there were plenty of players that made themselves available for trials.

There were plenty players who made themselves available fair enough. But I don't think if the opportunity was taken away they'd lose too much sleep over it either. Representing Ireland isn't really on teh agenda for most GAA people - if the opportunity is here no doubt some will take up the chance. But lets not pretend its something that they'll miss that hugely if its off the table. Its not like rugby or soccer where international caps are one of the ultimate accolades.

What Mickey Harte et al would be better looking at how many young players are being lost to soccer and rugby, and how many players we are losing out of this country because of the job situation here

But the GAA isn't openly engaging with the FAI or IRFU either is it? If they were I'd have a major problem. Why is it any different with the AFL? the point is the GAA should be actively trying to stop us losing players to all sports not doing it when it suits but then engaging with on of the major culprits on an annual basis.

The GAA's purpose should be promoting the game on its own merits, not promoting a hybrid game thats not even that good to watch and involves collaborating with an organisation that has actively sought to poach Irish players away from GAA and into their own sport.

As I said, they'd be far better advised building back up the profile of the Railway Cups and putting the might of their marketing machine behind the sports they're supposed to be promoting.

Gipo3

flahavaj wrote: »

Compromise Rules is a loada boll*x IMO. As Mickey Harte said all it does is put our best players in the shop window to be poached by AFL clubs.

How many Gaa players have gone to AFL after playing international rules?
Well that would be none.
Mickey Harte hasnt got a clue. The sooner he quits the better.

WallyGUFC

Two awful games this year with about 15 exciting minutes spread over both tests. Not good enough. Scrap it.

flahavaj

Gipo3 wrote: »

How many Gaa players have gone to AFL after playing international rules?
Well that would be none.
Mickey Harte hasnt got a clue. The sooner he quits the better.

Even so, why even engage with them, especially when the hybrid sport produced is pretty sh*te?

As for Mickey Harte not having a clue and needing to quit - LOL. What that man has done for his county, in not only bringing All Irelands to a place that had none, but setting up an underage structure thats the envy of everyone is remarkable. Foolish statement tbh.