LOI rumours etc

super_furry

Wonder what swung it for him if, as he claims, he turned down bigger money elsewhere? Might get a coaching role at Inchicore.

Pighead

ScienceNerd wrote: »

http://www.stpatsfc.com/news.php?id=5943#.UrhB8bTS6RM

Pats to walk the league

doncarlos wrote: »

Fancied Pats to walk the league before the signing of Quigley. Now with Fahey on board also they are surely unstoppable.

Wouldn't say that now. Fahey's a very good player but he's only played a handful of games since the start of 2012/13 season. Still big question marks over his fitness you'd imagine. He's due back in Feb or March so even if he does stay fit you'd imagine it'll take him a while to get back up to speed.

Oat23

When did he last play for Ireland? Was he in the last squad before his injury problems began?

Wondering if we might finally see a LOI player in the NT now.

The_Kew_Tour

Wish him well. Fine player.

Bad news for rest of us though.

AgileMyth

Very surprised they've pulled that one off.

Can we have Coleman back now too?

Hope Lee Lynch wasn't moving for first team opportunities, thats the biggest collection of centre midfielders in the history of football.

dreamers75

AgileMyth wrote: »

Hope Lee Lynch wasn't moving for first team opportunities, thats the biggest collection of centre midfielders in the history of football.

This:

Assuming its Fahey for Russell as opposed to Lynch for Russell.

He seems to be the one that loses out.

AgileMyth

dreamers75 wrote: »

This:

Assuming its Fahey for Russell as opposed to Lynch for Russell.

He seems to be the one that loses out.

The Russell/Fahey/Lynch position is also where Quigley plays best

djpbarry

AgileMyth wrote: »

Very surprised they've pulled that one off.

Not really. The guy's hardly played any football for two years now. I'm guessing most clubs across the water weren't prepared to take a chance on him, so he's obviously thinking that by coming back to Pats, he's getting the chance to prove his fitness and, potentially, put himself in the shop window again in Europe.

Gavin "shels"

Is his tab for McDowells or Tom Taveys?

dreamers75

AgileMyth wrote: »

The Russell/Fahey/Lynch position is also where Quigley plays best

Methinks Quigley is our main striker now.

civis_liberalis

Oat23 wrote: »

When did he last play for Ireland? Was he in the last squad before his injury problems began?

He started against Germany in LR when they hammered us last year in Oct.

The end of March was the last time he played for Brum.

Oat23 wrote: »

Wondering if we might finally see a LOI player in the NT now.

Highly unlikely imo. IF he proves his fitness and IF he has a very good run until June, he'll be off to England again. He might then be considered for Ireland, depending on where he ended up.

Fahey's isn't over the hill yet, but I'd imagine Martin O'Neill would hesitate to bring him in over giving younger players a chance. All hypothetical. He needs to recover fully from injury first and stay fit.

colly_06

Great coup for the league getting Fahey back, I can only see it being good for the league.

CSF

colly_06 wrote: »

Great coup for the league getting Fahey back, I can only see it being good for the league.

But really just Pats.

dreamers75

Gavin shels wrote: »

Is his tab for McDowells or Tom Taveys?

Drink??? FFS

Replace Lady with Junkie.

Vision of Disorder

Lynch loaned home to Limerick? That'd be nice.

Oat23

Vision of Disorder wrote: »

Lynch loaned home to Limerick? That'd be nice.

I hope so. It's a horrible situation for him. He left Sligo to get more games presumably and he ends up at the club that signs Quigs and Fahey. I'd be asking for a loan if it was me.

TheBigLebowski

May I be the first to question the SPAs business model that allows them to afford these players, and be the first to predict their ultimate demise?

In all seriousness, are there any pats fans that would rather see this money being invested in the club in other ways, either through improving facilities or youth schemes etc. It's hard to take for some rovers fans not to be spending on big name players, but at least, to their credit, they're redirecting funds to development of youth and reserve teams. Although, I believe in Faheys case, rovers did offer more money; but for all the other players that have left or were missed out on, rovers refused to pay what the players thought they were worth...maybe it'll pay off.

Alfa Quadrifoglio

Fantastic signing for St Pats, will help with their Champions League effort if Keith stays fit. He was sublime against Hertha Berlin, Elfsborg et al a number of years ago. Should help put bums on seats also as he is a legend in Inchicore. Really puts if up to the other title challengers.

djpbarry

TheBigLebowski wrote: »

In all seriousness, are there any pats fans that would rather see this money being invested in the club in other ways, either through improving facilities or youth schemes etc.

Of course there are. Kelleher promised all sorts when he took over the club and while Richer’s definitely in a better state now than it was before his arrival, I still don’t trust the guy. That said, I don’t think Pats are throwing cash around in quite the manner some seem to think (Bucko’s got a knack for picking up talented players when their stock has dipped and then getting the best out of them).

TheBigLebowski wrote: »

...but for all the other players that have left or were missed out on, rovers refused to pay what the players thought they were worth...

There’s no way Pats offered Kenna more than Rovers did. Ditto with Chambers and O’Connor last year. In the case of Chamber’s return and McCormack, it was more a case of them being offloaded by Rovers than Pats winning any sort of bidding war.

dreamers75

TheBigLebowski wrote: »

May I be the first to question the SPAs business model that allows them to afford these players, and be the first to predict their ultimate demise?

In all seriousness, are there any pats fans that would rather see this money being invested in the club in other ways, either through improving facilities or youth schemes etc. It's hard to take for some rovers fans not to be spending on big name players, but at least, to their credit, they're redirecting funds to development of youth and reserve teams. Although, I believe in Faheys case, rovers did offer more money; but for all the other players that have left or were missed out on, rovers refused to pay what the players thought they were worth...maybe it'll pay off.

We have less players than last year.

But the secret to all is:

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/fai-gets-125m-debt-writeoff-on-aviva-29863091.html

However, continued negotiations -- in which businessman Dermot Desmond and owner of St Patrick's Athletic Garrett Kelleher had been "very helpful" -- brought the deal to a successful conclusion.

2 penos and 2 red vs Rovers
1 peno and 1 red vs Sligo
2 goal head start for Shels........

djpbarry

dreamers75 wrote: »

However, continued negotiations -- in which businessman Dermot Desmond and owner of St Patrick's Athletic Garrett Kelleher had been "very helpful" -- brought the deal to a successful conclusion.

Yep - don't trust the guy, at all.

Gavin "shels"

dreamers75 wrote: »

We have less players than last year.

10 players on €100 or 1 player on €1,000, what's the difference?

Alfa Quadrifoglio

Heard on Christmas Eve from a Bohs fan that Stephen Rice may be returning to Bohs??? Good signing if true.

markc1184

If Lee Lynch was available for loan for the season, I'd love to see him back at Drogheda.

dreamers75

Gavin shels wrote: »

10 players on €100 or 1 player on €1,000, what's the difference?

Oddly Shels are. You being relegated creates a vacuum for any decent player who wants to play in Dublin us and Bohs reaping rewards from it.

The Fahey signing worries me if our crowds dont increase on the back of it. Other than that i am happy enough could do with a left sided centreback but think the 2 under 19s lads will be 1st teamers with the intention of playing. They are quite handy.

Pat D. Almighty

Darren O'Dea for St. Pats.

CSF

Pat D. Almighty wrote: »

Darren O'Dea for St. Pats.

They're going to be broke in no time.

Captain Havoc

CSF wrote: »

They're going to be broke in no time.

I doubt Pats could match anything he could get abroad. He's supposed to be in the first year of a three year contract also.

steirishrover

Pat D. Almighty wrote: »

Darren O'Dea for St. Pats.

Seriously?

dan1895

Wasn't he the most highly paid defender in the MLS a couple of seasons ago?

kksaints

Pat D. Almighty wrote: »

Darren O'Dea for St. Pats.

I would be worried if we pulled that signing off. Not on the pitch he would more than likely be one of the best players on the pitch but finance wise I cant see us affording him with our crowds.

Seaneh

dan1895 wrote: »

Wasn't he the most highly paid defender in the MLS a couple of seasons ago?

Most highly paid non "designated player" I think.

So nowhere near the likes of Nesta, Beckham, Henry, Donovan, etc.

Wilberto

Seaneh wrote: »

Most highly paid non "designated player" I think.

So nowhere near the likes of Nesta, Beckham, Henry, Donovan, etc.

To be fair, he did say "the most highly paid defender".

Don't get me wrong though, one would imagine that you'd still be right with the Nesta example.

Also, for what it's worth, I certainly can't imagine Darren O'Dea being anywhere near the "most highly paid defender" unless there were certain criteria that only a select few actually fall into.

DerekDGoldfish

He was actually being paid 3 times what Nesta was as by the time Nesta decided to take a trip stateside all the designated spots where gone and most teams had their budgets spent so Nesta was on a modest 100K.

Very surprised if we have the money to afford his wage on top of those already signed.

AgileMyth

Was just thinking there was a shortage of stupid rumours this season, O'Dea to Pats fills the void nicely.

Gavin "shels"

http://www.shamrockrovers.ie/news/35-news/3483-kmw-is-a-hoop

AgileMyth

Always thought Marty Waters was decent. He'll be a great signing for Pats next season.

Gavin "shels"

Rumours Fahey is on €1,500 a week!!!! :O :O

CSF

Gavin shels wrote: »

Rumours Fahey is on €1,500 a week!!!! :O :O

I had thought it would be even more than that.

doncarlos

Gavin shels wrote: »

Rumours Fahey is on €1,500 a week!!!! :O :O

Bargain if true, considering you had average players on a lot higher than that not so long ago.

AgileMyth

doncarlos wrote: »

Bargain if true, considering you had average players on a lot higher than that not so long ago.

Dundalk fans idea of a bargain is obviously skewed.

marwelie

Kieran Marty Waters confirmed as a Shamrock Rovers player this morning. Delighted

Tiocfaidh Armani

AgileMyth wrote: »

Was just thinking there was a shortage of stupid rumours this season, O'Dea to Pats fills the void nicely.

doncarlos

AgileMyth wrote: »

Dundalk fans idea of a bargain is obviously skewed.

€1500 for a current international that has been playing premier league and Championship football in recent seasons. Eh yes that's a bargain and a whole lot less than Pat's were paying for players not so long ago.

I wouldn't be shocked to hear that there a few players on higher wages than him in the league. Wasn't the rumour Kenna was offered €1200 by Rovers? I have no doubts that Sligo are paying decent money to players too. They are not going to relocate the other side of the country for an extra €50 a week

DerekDGoldfish

doncarlos wrote: »

€1500 for a current international that has been playing premier league and Championship football in recent seasons. Eh yes that's a bargain and a whole lot less than Pat's were paying for players not so long ago.

I wouldn't be shocked to hear that there a few players on higher wages than him in the league. Wasn't the rumour Kenna was offered €1200 by Rovers? I have no doubts that Sligo are paying decent money to players too. They are not going to relocate the other side of the country for an extra €50 a week

Well you can buy a house there for €200 so the living costs are much less

dreamers75

The Star said it was 1200 a week for Fahey which is fair enough as long as 500 more people go to a game every week.

We shall see.......

dundalkfc10

dreamers75 wrote: »

The Star said it was 1200 a week for Fahey which is fair enough as long as 500 more people go to a game every week.

We shall see.......

Theres no way Fahey is going to add 500 to Pats gate every week

When they were top of thr league for the majority of last season, they could barely add an extra 500

Cant see Fahey being "a big name" thats going to get people out to watch pats

djpbarry

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Cant see Fahey being "a big name" thats going to get people out to watch pats

Darren O'Dea on the other hand...

AgileMyth

doncarlos wrote: »

€1500 for a current international that has been playing premier league and Championship football in recent seasons. Eh yes that's a bargain and a whole lot less than Pat's were paying for players not so long ago.

I wouldn't be shocked to hear that there a few players on higher wages than him in the league. Wasn't the rumour Kenna was offered €1200 by Rovers? I have no doubts that Sligo are paying decent money to players too. They are not going to relocate the other side of the country for an extra €50 a week

Things have changed. You can get quality footballers for a lot less now than a couple of years back.

Shams were paying Richie 1100 per week so I assume thats what all their highest earners are on.

1500 for a player whos been injured for two years is a major risk for a club getting the crowds Pats do, regardless of how good he can be.

dundalkfc10

djpbarry wrote: »

Darren O'Dea on the other hand...

Darren O'Dea will not be going to Pats plus he isnt a big name either