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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭iregk


    you're seriouslly responding to a post made 10 pages ago!!!! its gone...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    Flood signed for Fingal.

    Crowley and MulcThe Beast confirmed for pats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭Pinturicchio


    Bisto is a great signing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    Bisto is a great signing.

    never rated him tbh, good 1st division player.

    Stuey Byrne player/coach at bohs :(

    We have Gill/Mahon no chance of him getting a coaching gig with us :(

    So the drogs saga finally completes :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭Pinturicchio


    He seemed to come on in leaps and bounds when he joined us. He was great for us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    He seemed to come on in leaps and bounds when he joined us. He was great for us.

    His only good stint in the PL.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭civis_liberalis


    Moans like a bastard but did the business to be fair to him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,965 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    Moans like a bastard but did the business to be fair to him.

    He's a moany trollock but he can deliver, personnally don't see him being a top class player in the Premier Division. Fingals money talks again by the looks of it anyway, 90% sure that we offered him a contract too, and when you've a new born child to pay the extra couple of hundred helps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,965 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    Someone on foot.ie saying Davey "let rob the kits" Rogers signed for Mons, now if there was any doubt they wouldn't be competing for promotion this season this has just sealed their faith.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 736 ✭✭✭darsar


    He's a moany trollock but he can deliver, personnally don't see him being a top class player in the Premier Division. Fingals money talks again by the looks of it anyway, 90% sure that we offered him a contract too, and when you've a new born child to pay the extra couple of hundred helps.

    Yes all to do with money, nothing about the premier division v first division option.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,968 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Someone on foot.ie saying Davey "let rob the kits" Rogers signed for Mons, now if there was any doubt they wouldn't be competing for promotion this season this has just sealed their faith.

    Are you suggesting Rogers isn't good enough for the First Div? :eek:
    darsar wrote: »
    Yes all to do with money, nothing about the premier division v first division option.

    For an unemployed bloke with a newborn kid it should be all about the money!! I'd expect anyone in his situation to take the higher wage even if it was in the lower division.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭Saint_Mel


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    For an unemployed bloke with a newborn kid it should be all about the money!!

    I thought he was a postman?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,173 ✭✭✭shanec1928


    Zayed signed for derry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭TangyZizzle


    Zayed signed for derry

    Source?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Zayed signed for derry

    How many times?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,657 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    darsar wrote: »
    Yes all to do with money, nothing about the premier division v first division option.
    Lets be fair and honest about it, no1 actually wants to sign for Sporting Fingal for any other reason than cash.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭TangyZizzle


    CSF wrote: »
    Lets be fair and honest about it, no1 actually wants to sign for Sporting Fingal for any other reason than cash.

    So you're ruling out the prospect of playing in the top flight as opposed to the second and playing in Europe as a pull factor?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,657 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    So you're ruling out the prospect of playing in the top flight as opposed to the second and playing in Europe as a pull factor?
    When the club is Sporting Fingal yeah. Players don't go there to fulfill their ambitions, just to get a wad of cash. They were doing the exact same when Fingal were a First Division club.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 736 ✭✭✭darsar


    Zebra3 wrote: »

    For an unemployed bloke with a newborn kid it should be all about the money!! I'd expect anyone in his situation to take the higher wage even if it was in the lower division.

    I forgot my rolley eyes! Getting tiresome now about this topic if Fingal and cash. We're talking about Ireland here lads. The difference of having one or two hundred a week more really counts in the low pay scale.

    We are not talking Bent moving from one club to another for £20k more.

    People hear Fingal and think money but are Shels in Setanta, Premier division, Europa Cup? Years later and some Shels can't get to grasp they are a first division club now.

    And, they couldn't wait to get Flood out after been sent off in the play off against Fingal last year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,657 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    darsar wrote: »
    I forgot my rolley eyes! Getting tiresome now about this topic if Fingal and cash. We're talking about Ireland here lads. The difference of having one or two hundred a week more really counts in the low pay scale.

    We are not talking Bent moving from one club to another for £20k more.

    People hear Fingal and think money but are Shels in Setanta, Premier division, Europa Cup? Years later and some Shels can't get to grasp they are a first division club now.

    And, they couldn't wait to get Flood out after been sent off in the play off against Fingal last year.
    None of that true, money makes so much more difference when you're earning less. The extra money Bent is making now probably won't make a huge amount of difference to his life.

    Also everyone can grasp that Shels are a First Division club now. We know that when the likes of Pats, Dundalk and Rovers come in they get players ahead of us because they're more attractive clubs to join. They're big clubs aswell as playing in the big competitions. No1 is enticed by the prestige of playing for Sporting Fingal, 2 European games, and a mickey mouse all Ireland Cup aren't going to make them an appealing proposition. Money does.

    As for the Flood situation, the people who wanted him gone when he left were in a massive minority. Would have killed for him to stay then, and would kill to have him back now.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 617 ✭✭✭S.R.F.C.


    Mannus to re-sign for us and looks like Chambers possibly to Hamilton. Should be some official Rovers news this week anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭FreeOSCAR


    Anto Murphy and Aidan Price to Fingal done deal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 736 ✭✭✭darsar


    CSF wrote: »
    None of that true, money makes so much more difference when you're earning less. The extra money Bent is making now probably won't make a huge amount of difference to his life.

    Which is exactly what I said


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭SantryRed


    Some of the sh1te spouted by Shels fans is laughable lads.

    So what if Fingal offered more? Even if Shels and Fingal offered the same amount why would anyone choose Shels? Madness being talked here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,968 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Saint_Mel wrote: »
    I thought he was a postman?

    Flood is only just back from Sweden. Didn't know he had a job that quickly.
    darsar wrote: »
    I forgot my rolley eyes! Getting tiresome now about this topic if Fingal and cash. We're talking about Ireland here lads. The difference of having one or two hundred a week more really counts in the low pay scale.

    You complain about what I said and then totally agree with me. :confused:

    Well done. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,381 ✭✭✭✭Paulw


    CSF wrote: »
    Lets be fair and honest about it, no1 actually wants to sign for Sporting Fingal for any other reason than cash.

    Just keep saying that out loud and someone might believe you. :D "There's no place like home, there's no place like home, there's no place like home....."

    I can't see how Fingal can offer more money than any club currently. You forget that there is no big payroll for the club any more, and there have been major cutbacks, including players wages. Fingal are working on a very tight budget this year.

    I guess no player in the league can be impressed by how Fingal play? The fact that they were only 5 points behind the league winners? The fact that they have qualified for Europe again? They fact that they play attractive football, and the pundits like the style of play? The fact that the club has already some quality players? The fact that they want to continue to play quality football, have ambitions to win the league, and continue to advance in Europe?

    Time for people to come back to reality. Yes, money counts. But, for the same money, any player will want to play for a team with potential - potential to win the league and do well in Europe.

    I can't believe that people still think that Fingal are or even can offer more money than others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 736 ✭✭✭darsar


    Zebra3 wrote: »


    You complain about what I said and then totally agree with me. :confused:

    Well done. :rolleyes:

    No, I complain that it is been spouted off that people only sign for Fingal for cash. I point out that the Premier division over the first is a factor as well as Europe etc.

    You were complaining and then agreeing if anything.

    Oh and :rolleyes:

    EDIT: sorry Zeb, misread you for CFS.

    Point being anyway that while money of course matters sometimes it's good to play at the best level. Aa someone said, if another club offers same as Fingal and player chooses Fingal for attractive football reasons, player is concidered to be following money!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭civis_liberalis


    Can we have a dedicated "Argue about Sporting Fingal" thread please?

    I'm not joking.

    Galway United are bringing in quite a few loanees.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,434 ✭✭✭Lamper.sffc


    Paulw wrote: »
    Just keep saying that out loud and someone might believe you. :D "There's no place like home, there's no place like home, there's no place like home....."

    I can't see how Fingal can offer more money than any club currently. You forget that there is no big payroll for the club any more, and there have been major cutbacks, including players wages. Fingal are working on a very tight budget this year.

    I guess no player in the league can be impressed by how Fingal play? The fact that they were only 5 points behind the league winners? The fact that they have qualified for Europe again? They fact that they play attractive football, and the pundits like the style of play? The fact that the club has already some quality players? The fact that they want to continue to play quality football, have ambitions to win the league, and continue to advance in Europe?

    Time for people to come back to reality. Yes, money counts. But, for the same money, any player will want to play for a team with potential - potential to win the league and do well in Europe.

    I can't believe that people still think that Fingal are or even can offer more money than others.

    Anto Flood is one of csf s favourite players. His world would fall apart if he thought Anto would sign for us for any other reason than money. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭Pineapple stu


    CSF wrote: »
    When the club is Sporting Fingal yeah. Players don't go there to fulfill their ambitions, just to get a wad of cash. They were doing the exact same when Fingal were a First Division club.

    And hoofing the ball for shels would be ambitious would it? Truth is you dont know how much the players get in any football club, you only assume.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,965 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    S.R.F.C. wrote: »
    Mannus to re-sign for us and looks like Chambers possibly to Hamilton. Should be some official Rovers news this week anyway.

    Is Chambers still contracted? If so any rumours of a price?
    SantryRed wrote: »
    So what if Fingal offered more?

    Short memory there Ben, ever hear of Gerry Gannon no? That's why I care a lot.
    http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Developer-Gerry-Gannon-still-owes-NAMA-13-billion-112369924.html

    Paulw wrote: »
    I can't believe that people still think that Fingal are or even can offer more money than others.

    Paul any idea of you're budget for the season as a matter of interest?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭Pineapple stu


    I think Paul's budget is less this year as well :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,965 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    Truth is you dont know how much the players get in any football club, you only assume.

    CSF mightn't but I have a fair idea of what the main players at Shels earn, and a few other LoI players do too including a few Fingal players, you're obviously not aware that a few LoI like spilling the beans.


  • Registered Users Posts: 617 ✭✭✭S.R.F.C.


    Is Chambers still contracted? If so any rumours of a price?

    Unfortunately not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭Pineapple stu


    Personally i wouldnt be bothered what they earn same as they wouldnt care how much i get. All i care is that they get paid and on time which is the main factor for players when they sign for their respective clubs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭Saint_Mel


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Flood is only just back from Sweden. Didn't know he had a job that quickly.

    Apologies, I thought ye were still on about Dave Rogers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭iregk


    Well is anybody surprised?

    FAI could lend Bohemians money
    Saturday, 22 January 2011 12:15
    The FAI could lend Bohemians money to pay their players and help the Dalymount Park club secure a future in the League of Ireland.
    Bohs have not paid their contracted players for seven weeks, with defenders Brian Shelley and Stephen Grey pursuing a winding-up order against the club after losing patience with the situation.
    The duo were set to hold a press conference on Friday to discuss their grievances and explain the reasons behind trying to wind-up one of Ireland's most famous outfits.
    However, FAI Chief Executive John Delaney intervened and promised to enter negotiations with the players and Bohs separately in a bid to address the matter.
    The Irish Independent claims the FAI could now pay the players the money they are owed and the footballing body would then deduct any future prize money Bohemians win to claim back the cash.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,838 ✭✭✭doncarlos


    Paulw wrote: »
    I can't believe that people still think that Fingal are or even can offer more money than others.

    I can't believe that people still think that Fingal are not or even can't offer more money than others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,381 ✭✭✭✭Paulw


    Short memory there Ben, ever hear of Gerry Gannon no? That's why I care a lot.
    http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Developer-Gerry-Gannon-still-owes-NAMA-13-billion-112369924.html

    Paul any idea of you're budget for the season as a matter of interest?

    Gannon is long gone from the club. He pulled out near the end of last season, and it was announced back in ... Nov??? Time to move on Gavin.

    Yeah, my budget this season is limited, but the move to Dalymount helps me. :D
    doncarlos wrote: »
    I can't believe that people still think that Fingal are not or even can't offer more money than others.

    Fingal can offer more than some clubs - Drogheda and Bohs are examples. :P

    But, Fingal can't offer more than Shamrock Rovers, and others ... those clubs with stable financial situations. Fingal have a drastically reduced budget from previous years. I know this for a fact, since there have been a good number of cuts in the organisation.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,838 ✭✭✭doncarlos


    Paulw wrote: »
    But, Fingal can't offer more than Shamrock Rovers, and others ...

    Offered Gary O'Neill a better contract than Shamrock Rovers could
    Offered Greg Bolger a better contract than Dundalk could

    I do believe you that the budget has been cut but I still suspect that it is close to Rovers and higher than the rest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,381 ✭✭✭✭Paulw


    doncarlos wrote: »
    Offered Gary O'Neill a better contract than Shamrock Rovers could
    Offered Greg Bolger a better contract than Dundalk could

    I do believe you that the budget has been cut but I still suspect that it is close to Rovers and higher than the rest.

    With Gary, I was informed that there was a lot more to it than money, and even from the rumours here, the money difference was minimal. 2k over the year? Hardly big money.

    With Greg, it was more the package than the bottom line. Besides, who'd want to live in Dundalk? ;)

    Not saying that the club didn't make special efforts to target players, but like any team, there are times when you need specific players and are willing to spend extra there and cut back in other areas. With the possibility of Williams and/or Finn leaving to go to the UK, a midfielder to replace was needed.

    As for the budget, I think the Rovers budget is much higher than the Fingal one. While the club have secured financing for the coming season, it's nowhere near previous levels.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Paulw wrote: »
    With Gary, I was informed that there was a lot more to it than money, .

    From my experience (as a supporter) for the majority of players, more to it than money is either a lie or just means the bottom line is bigger in some way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,397 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    Anto Flood is the most over rated Shels player of all time. He's slow running with the ball, rarely passes early enough, doesn't understand the off side rule, constantly moans at everyone and is a bad finisher. Delighted he didn't resign with us


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,401 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    John Russell re-signed for us. Just got a text from the club.

    Great to have Russell - Ryan - Ndo in midfield again next season.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    doncarlos wrote: »
    Offered Gary O'Neill a better contract than Shamrock Rovers could
    Offered Greg Bolger a better contract than Dundalk could

    I do believe you that the budget has been cut but I still suspect that it is close to Rovers and higher than the rest.

    I would be inclinded to think its still higher than Rovers. And I suspect Rovers are behind Sligs too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,965 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    Paulw wrote: »
    Gannon is long gone from the club. He pulled out near the end of last season, and it was announced back in ... Nov??? Time to move on Gavin.

    Yeah, my budget this season is limited, but the move to Dalymount helps me. :D

    He still invested €750,000 into Fingal, no need to move on, the point still stands and will do while taxpayers are paying off his €1 billion in NAMA.

    Nice to know it's limited, but any idea of Sporting Fingals budget for this season?

    I would be inclinded to think its still higher than Rovers. And I suspect Rovers are behind Sligs too.

    Any idea what Rovers budget is for the season? And since you lot know about Sligo, what is their budget?;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭Sligored


    He still invested €750,000 into Fingal, no need to move on, the point still stands and will do while taxpayers are paying off his €1 billion in NAMA.

    Nice to know it's limited, but any idea of Sporting Fingals budget for this season?




    Any idea what Rovers budget is for the season? And since you lot know about Sligo, what is their budget?;)



    this is where he disappears gavin - when you ask for facts - he is just a wind up merchant afraid of anyone challenging his beloved shams for honours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,517 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood


    Oatesy23 wrote: »
    John Russell re-signed for us. Just got a text from the club.

    Great to have Russell - Ryan - Ndo in midfield again next season.

    Careful now, after that post the Shamrock Rovers fans will read that as "resigned" and have him signing for them next Tuesday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,381 ✭✭✭✭Paulw


    He still invested €750,000 into Fingal, no need to move on, the point still stands and will do while taxpayers are paying off his €1 billion in NAMA.

    Nice to know it's limited, but any idea of Sporting Fingals budget for this season?

    His investment was before NAMA. Since NAMA came on the scene no money was invested.

    But again, he has no (zero) involvement for this season and is no longer part of the club. All the current budget is based upon the new sponsors and funding.

    I don't know the actual figure of the budget, but even if I did, I wouldn't be at liberty to post it. But, the figure is not even close to last year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,965 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    Paulw wrote: »
    I don't know the actual figure of the budget, but even if I did, I wouldn't be at liberty to post it. But, the figure is not even close to last year.

    Thought it might have been mentioned at the public meeting by your club the other week. Last seasons budget was upwards of €17,000 yes?


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