LOI rumours etc

Zebra3

Well, I've heard Pat's were in talks with Dawson and also that they made Philly Huge an offer.

antomorro-sei

Zebra3 wrote: »

Well, I've heard Pat's were in talks with Dawson and also that they made Philly Huge an offer.

Probably Bucko's been in talks...

Just been confirmed as our new manager... http://stpatsfc.com/news.php?id=4594

dreamers75

Zebra3 wrote: »

Well, I've heard Pat's were in talks with Dawson and also that they made Philly Huge an offer.

Buckley was calling players for the last 2 weeks, yay cant wait to make 57 passes without a shot on goal. Dawson and another Shels player lined up.

Shortall going to shels, smashing player realyl liked him last season.

djpbarry

antomorro-sei wrote: »

Probably Bucko's been in talks...

Just been confirmed as our new manager... http://stpatsfc.com/news.php?id=4594

I don't know what to make of this - something about Buckley I don't like. I think Pete deserved at least another year.

dreamers75 wrote: »

Buckley was calling players for the last 2 weeks, yay cant wait to make 57 passes without a shot on goal. Dawson and another Shels player lined up.

Shortall going to shels, smashing player realyl liked him last season.

That's a pity - I liked the look of him. Dawson would be a decent addition though.

gimmick

Daryl Horgan confirmed as a Cork City player after signing from Sligo on a permanent basis. Small cash up front, huge incentives should he go abroad.

doncarlos

Very harsh on Pete Mahon who did a decent job at Pats. Football is a business now though and Buckey's style of football will bring more punters through the gate.

Really hope that Mahon doesn't come to Dundalk. Can't see me buying a season ticket if he does as couldn't stomach watching rubbish football all season. Seen 7 years of it in the first division

AgileMyth

gimmick wrote: »

Daryl Horgan confirmed as a Cork City player after signing from Sligo on a permanent basis. Small cash up front, huge incentives should he go abroad.

Disappointed at that to be honest. Thought he'd be good enough for us.

gimmick

He is the head off Damian Duff.

djpbarry

doncarlos wrote: »

Really hope that Mahon doesn't come to Dundalk. Can't see me buying a season ticket if he does as couldn't stomach watching rubbish football all season.

I think the 'direct' nature of Pete's teams is overstated. Sure, Pats went "over the top" a little too often for my liking, but you're always going to be tempted to do that with two quick front men. Pats were quite capable of it getting it down and knocking about when it suited them.

Zebra3

'CITY TIL I DIE'. :D

oldyouth

Harsh on Pete Mahon, real old school manager who sorted out Pats when he first arrived. Will be interesting to see what Buckley can achieve on a 'restrained' budget

Gavin "shels"

John Gill to Bohs?

AgileMyth

Jason McGuiness the latest to sign up.

applehunter

Evening Echo had Daryl Horgan staying in Sligo on Wednesday evening.

Not the 1st time they have got it wrong.

Delighted. Superb talent.

"I could see why some of the boys took him for snobby. He had a quiet way about him, a walk and a talk that just wasn't normal around here. He strolled, like a man in a park without a care or a worry in the world, like he had on an invisible coat that would shield him from this place. Yeah, I think it would be fair to say... I liked Duffer from the start. "

CSF

dreamers75 wrote: »

Buckley was calling players for the last 2 weeks, yay cant wait to make 57 passes without a shot on goal. Dawson and another Shels player lined up.

Shortall going to shels, smashing player realyl liked him last season.

Dawson signing for us. Can only imagine the other player is Boyle, Fitzgerald or Byrne? Probably Boyle if we're signing another centre-half (Shortall) with us also being linked with Conor Kenna.

dreamers75

Byrne, Fitzgerald O brien Mc Faul O neil and Dawson have been contacted.

A Fingal reunion on the cards, hope he uses our feckin centrebacks from last season cos Sportings were rubbish.

CSF

dreamers75 wrote: »

Byrne, Fitzgerald O brien Mc Faul O neil and Dawson have been contacted.

A Fingal reunion on the cards, hope he uses our feckin centrebacks from last season cos Sportings were rubbish.

Well Dawson is signing for us according to himself. Won't be too upset if Byrne and Fitzgerald go your way. They'd both be welcome back though if we do offer them a new deal and they decide to stay. Both will be big earners for whichever club takes them on.

dreamers75

Bolger saying he signing for us.

CSF North told pats fans he signing for us, noone at our club to offer him anything. Until you see them wearing the jersey in the 1st match they havent really signed*



* Conor Kenna, Paisley etc:

CSF

dreamers75 wrote: »

Bolger saying he signing for us.

CSF North told pats fans he signing for us, noone at our club to offer him anything. Until you see them wearing the jersey in the 1st match they havent really signed*



* Conor Kenna, Paisley etc:

Yeah but you could say that about anyone from any team in relation to any team, which defeats the purpose of these threads.

dreamers75

CSF wrote: »

Yeah but you could say that about anyone from any team in relation to any team, which defeats the purpose of these threads.

Nope fairly sure only in the LOI can you sign for a team and play for another in the 1st game of the season.

Fact most of the players are normal people who people know makes these threads golden.

have you a confirmed manager btw ?

CSF

dreamers75 wrote: »

Nope fairly sure only in the LOI can you sign for a team and play for another in the 1st game of the season.

Fact most of the players are normal people who people know makes these threads golden.

have you a confirmed manager btw ?

I was referring to any one in the LOI but sure, I assume we aren't getting an official confirmation of Matthews, but if he has signed back players already one can only assume he has signed. Our 3 top players wouldn't have signed if their manager hadn't.

dreamers75

CSF wrote: »

I was referring to any one in the LOI but sure, I assume we aren't getting an official confirmation of Matthews, but if he has signed back players already one can only assume he has signed. Our 3 top players wouldn't have signed if their manager hadn't.

They would if they were gauranteed a wage.

CSF

dreamers75 wrote: »

They would if they were gauranteed a wage.

But they wouldn't be if Matthews decided tomorrow not to sign a contract.

dreamers75

CSF wrote: »

But they wouldn't be if Matthews decided tomorrow not to sign a contract.

Dunno about that, 95% of LOI players free agents. In this climate they would snap the hand of any offer right now.

Most of them have other jobs, so signing pre xmas gives them some sort of stability.

Tbh i think we are one of the only clubs with a manager, Sligo dont have one yet signing players? Or has cook signed on as well hes out of contract too afaik???(not sure)

dsmythy

Is the info@loi.ie email address defunct or what? Any alternatives to write in about the league?

AgileMyth

dreamers75 wrote: »

Dunno about that, 95% of LOI players free agents. In this climate they would snap the hand of any offer right now.

Most of them have other jobs, so signing pre xmas gives them some sort of stability.

Tbh i think we are one of the only clubs with a manager, Sligo dont have one yet signing players? Or has cook signed on as well hes out of contract too afaik???(not sure)

Cook signed a three year contract. 2012 will be his third.

dreamers75

AgileMyth wrote: »

Cook signed a three year contract. 2012 will be his third.

Seriously your under the table shenagigans convinced him to sign a 3 year contract.

Good luck with that ****, mad how it still happens in LOI. Its like we never learn.

Pinturicchio

Tommy Dunne was given a three year contract in Cork as well.

monkey9

I really really like Sligo Rovers, my second favourite team. But they are going to be found out big time, sooner or later!! This league never learns!

AgileMyth

monkey9 wrote: »

I really really like Sligo Rovers, my second favourite team. But they are going to be found out big time, sooner or later!! This league never learns!

Can't be found out if you're doing nothing wrong. First priority of Sligo Rovers is survival as a club.

I'd be more concerned about Cork. Paying transfer fees for players with the amount of free agents knocking about is madness.

AgileMyth

dreamers75 wrote: »

Seriously your under the table shenagigans convinced him to sign a 3 year contract.

Good luck with that ****, mad how it still happens in LOI. Its like we never learn.

What under the table shenanigans would that be exactly?

gimmick

AgileMyth wrote: »

I'd be more concer about Cork. Paying transfer fees for players with the amount of free agents knocking about is madness.

The fee is pretty tiny. I would agree otherwise.

Mr.Crinklewood

dreamers75 wrote: »

Seriously your under the table shenagigans convinced him to sign a 3 year contract.

Good luck with that ****, mad how it still happens in LOI. Its like we never learn.

Source ?

stovelid

The old LOI cycle


Club X commits financial peccadillo

Rumours start in small, LOI community between supporters of clubs A, B and C

Supporters of club X tell others to provide source

Supporters of club X dismiss rumours from club A as jealously

Club X found out

Club Y commits financial peccadillo

Rumours start in small, LOI community between supporters of clubs A, B, C and X

Supporters of club Y tell others to provide source

Supporters of club Y dismiss rumours from club X as jealously

Club Y found out

/Repeat

djpbarry

AgileMyth wrote: »

Can't be found out if you're doing nothing wrong.

So the fact that Sligo are the only full-time outfit in the league, with nowhere near the largest fan base, doesn't raise the odd question in your mind? The fact that Cook has now on two occasions threatened to walk if he doesn't get the budget he wants doesn't set off any alarm bells?

This isn't jealously. I'm in the same boat as monkey9 - I like Sligo. They play good football. They're a good advert for the league. But how can they support a full-time set up? The numbers just don't add up.

applehunter

They work very hard off the pitch to keep the show on the road.

Don't see any banks giving them much rope.

Full time football doesn't have to equate to financial recklessness if its done right.

overshoot

i do wonder how sligo are not running at a loss but didnt they announce a profit of 62k at the agm last year? im still suspicious though....

stovelid

I would find it hard to beleive that Sligo assembled the team without a wage bill not very far off ours.

Like everybody else, I don't wish them any ill-will outside of the usual football rivalry but our income streams are clear to see: average attendance was 2,5 times theirs and we have around 250k a year coming in from membership and that's before you consider sponsorship and Euro/prize money.

Just saying.

At the end of the day, the LOI community is small and rumours are usually founded. Every round of whispering about a club in the last 10 years (including us) have basically ended up being founded.

AgileMyth

djpbarry wrote: »

So the fact that Sligo are the only full-time outfit in the league, with nowhere near the largest fan base, doesn't raise the odd question in your mind?

We are full time in the same way Shams are. I assume Cork and Derry operate in the same manner. Our players are full time for the duration of the season. None of them are on big money though.

Players with big demands will not be re-signed for next year. Much like Boco the past two seasons.

djpbarry wrote: »

The fact that Cook has now on two occasions threatened to walk if he doesn't get the budget he wants doesn't set off any alarm bells?

Once. Two years ago, and there was more too it than that.

CSF

stovelid wrote: »

At the end of the day, the LOI community is small and rumours are usually founded. Every round of whispering about a club in the last 10 years (including us) have basically ended up being founded.

And every such rumour over the last 10 years has been met with an accusation of jealousy.

dreamers75

Corry Bolger Powell and Carroll in talks with Buckley today.

Mc Faul a shoe in.



Bermo to rovers? strange one.

shanec1928

we offer 36 week contracts are what ever the league is. players dont get paid during the off season. we run a tight ship. we got a lot of money from our 500 club as well as the club lotto on a weekly basis then our gate which is usually around the 2k figure with about 3-400 season tickets.have a small coaching staff of 3 including the manager.then the rest is voluntary work. large contributions come from the trust and the dsc as well as all the other draws through out the year.are treasure is excellent with the finances and was a very good business man till he retired and is very good at raising money for fund raisers. we upgraded the group for Europe at minimal cost to the club as the fans decided to leave their season tickets at home for a game. which saved the club a lot of money. theses rumours happen each off season at this stage by a club whose supporters claim to know all about every club in the league. dosnt take rocket science to know who it is..
Btw still waiting to hear word back on our Finances that were to be investigated from last season that was claimed

paulcorr

AgileMyth wrote: »

We are full time in the same way Shams are. I assume Cork and Derry operate in the same manner. Our players are full time for the duration of the season. None of them are on big money though.

Players with big demands will not be re-signed for next year. Much like Boco the past two seasons.

Once. Two years ago, and there was more too it than that.

Shamrock rovers are not full time.

stovelid

forza rovers wrote: »

theses rumours happen each off season at this stage by a club whose supporters claim to know all about every club in the league. dosnt take rocket science to know who it is..
Btw still waiting to hear word back on our Finances that were to be investigated from last season that was claimed

This could have been written by a Bohs supporter two seasons ago. Word for word: right down to the sneering about the investigation.

As for if you're above level or not: I hope so as I've no grudge one way or another. I just want the league to improve.

And supporters from at least two other clubs have said the same thing on this thread so don't try and pass it off as Rovers.

I'll stand by the guess that the Sligo wage bill cannot not be far behind ours (which incidentally is also part-time contracts): the league table doesn't often lie.

AgileMyth

paulcorr wrote: »

Shamrock rovers are not full time.

Define 'full time'. They run in a similar manner to us in this respect but choose to call it by a different name.

stovelid

We've had the debate about what constitutes part or full time here before.

Technically part-time refers to the fact that players are not paid over the close season (unless they ask to have their part-time contract spread over 52 weeks) even though most don't hold other jobs during the season.

Mushy

Work with Buckleys son so will try get some info on whats going on.

AgileMyth

stovelid wrote: »

We've had the debate about what constitutes part or full time here before.

Technically part-time refers to the fact that players are not paid over the close season (unless they ask to have their part-time contract spread over 52 weeks) even though most don't hold other jobs during the season.

In that case we are part time too.

Zebra3

stovelid wrote: »

the league table doesn't often lie.

It has done so on many occasions in relation to clubs' spending.

Not that I'm not saying that nothing's not going on at Sligo. :pac:

Hard Worker

oldyouth wrote: »

Harsh on Pete Mahon, real old school manager who sorted out Pats when he first arrived. Will be interesting to see what Buckley can achieve on a 'restrained' budget

Bucko doesn't work on restrained budgets. He ignored advice given to him at Sporting Fingal and look where they are now.