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Knocknacarra/Rahoon History
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22-10-2010 12:55am#1
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churchview wrote: »This is all quite recent stuff.
Knocknacarra was never "posh" whatever that means. All that was ther was farms and usually pretty poor ones as the land for agricultural purposes was pretty awful. This only goes back about thirty years though. There was pretty much nothing there before then.
Rahoon's association with poverty goes back well before the flats. It was the site of many tinker encampments ( as they were called back then) and the farms around were poor dairy farms.
Kingston didn't really exist until about 35 years ago. Before this name was adopted Taylor's Hill stretched as far as Knocknacarra cross. Some in Kingston use the address Kingston, Taylor's hill . I've relatives who left our family home in the 1950s who jus use the address Taylor's Hill - they wouldn't know where to find Kingston - to them it's the name of the brothers house, not an address.
In my Grandmother's time, those with any cattle were posher than those with none
She did know people who lived in what is now Knocknacarra, so I assume there were some houses then.
Rahoon was a huge parish, technically taking in as far as Barna and beyond I believe. Lots of associations with poverty yes, but also had its affluent residents too. I believe Col. Bodkin (as in the roundabout
) was from there.
Yes, I knew that about Taylor's Hill/Kingston, and that's why I mentioned them together. Half the people in Maunsells Park use Taylors Hill as an address and half use Shantalla, and it has little to do with which side of the park they are on and all about the G4 mentality!:D0 -
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churchview wrote: »This is all quite recent stuff.
Knocknacarra was never "posh" whatever that means. All that was ther was farms and usually pretty poor ones as the land for agricultural purposes was pretty awful. This only goes back about thirty years though. There was pretty much nothing there before then.
Rahoon's association with poverty goes back well before the flats. It was the site of many tinker encampments ( as they were called back then) and the farms around were poor dairy farms.
Kingston didn't really exist until about 35 years ago. Before this name was adopted Taylor's Hill stretched as far as Knocknacarra cross. Some in Kingston use the address Kingston, Taylor's hill . I've relatives who left our family home in the 1950s who jus use the address Taylor's Hill - they wouldn't know where to find Kingston - to them it's the name of the brothers house, not an address.
i beg to differ, Knocknacarra WAS considered posh and yes there were houses there - ask your mam or dad - maybe you just didn't live nearby or spend any time there - if you talk to someone that lived in the area you will find out what it was like.
also I never heard of the "tinker emcampments" - yes the tinkers parked their caravans and lived all up along the side of the road heading to Rahoon but there were no specific traveller "encampments" - again check with your mam or dad or someone who actually lived in the area. 0 -
dolphin city wrote: »i beg to differ, Knocknacarra WAS considered posh and yes there were houses there - ask your mam or dad - maybe you just didn't live nearby or spend any time there - if you talk to someone that lived in the area you will find out what it was like.
also I never heard of the "tinker emcampments" - yes the tinkers parked their caravans and lived all up along the side of the road heading to Rahoon but there were no specific traveller "encampments" - again check with your mam or dad or someone who actually lived in the area.
I'm disappointed that your attitude is so narky, when in fact I've "defended" you on another post.
Name me one so called "posh" area in Knocknacarra? Good luck with that.
Yes, there was the occasional farm, and a few houses.
There's be no point my asking my parents about the "tinker encampments". They were from before their time; more like my grandparents time. Whether you've heard of them or not is irrelevant.
Clearly you've wonderful local knowledge of the area, and your family has been there for ages - well done; it must give you a warm fuzzy feeling inside :rolleyes: I would ask my parents for more detail but one is dead and the other is as good as, but hey, I don't need to ask. I well remember being able to look out the back window of my home as a child being able to see fields and fields before Clybaun Heights, Oldfield (Seangort), all of Ballymoneen or any of those were built. Sure you'd see the odd house but nothing much more.0 -
churchview wrote: »I'm disappointed that your attitude is so narky, when in fact I've "defended" you on another post.
Name me one so called "posh" area in Knocknacarra? Good luck with that.
Yes, there was the occasional farm, and a few houses.
There's be no point my asking my parents about the "tinker encampments". They were from before their time; more like my grandparents time. Whether you've heard of them or not is irrelevant.
Clearly you've wonderful local knowledge of the area, and your family has been there for ages - well done; it must give you a warm fuzzy feeling inside :rolleyes: I would ask my parents for more detail but one is dead and the other is as good as, but hey, I don't need to ask. I well remember being able to look out the back window of my home as a child being able to see fields and fields before Clybaun Heights, Oldfield (Seangort), all of Ballymoneen or any of those were built. Sure you'd see the odd house but nothing much more.
There are no "posh" areas of knocknacarra now as I mentioned in my earlier post - it is full of estates and is just as common as other areas - however if you had read my post properly you would have read that knocknacarra was considered very posh years ago - long before your clybaun heights and oldfield estates went up - in fact even before Corrib Park was built - I don't know if you can remember or were around before Corrib Park was built, again maybe you could ask someone that was. Everyone in fact could look out their window and see fields before these estates were built - thats not to say that knocknacarra did not exist and it wasn't considered posh and there was not houses in it. It was where the upper classes went to live who had money or who wanted to be seen to have money. Again, I suggest you check with people who were around at the time. 0 -
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dolphin city wrote: »There are no "posh" areas of knocknacarra now as I mentioned in my earlier post - it is full of estates and is just as common as other areas - however if you had read my post properly you would have read that knocknacarra was considered very posh years ago - long before your clybaun heights and oldfield estates went up - in fact even before Corrib Park was built - I don't know if you can remember or were around before Corrib Park was built, again maybe you could ask someone that was. Everyone in fact could look out their window and see fields before these estates were built - thats not to say that knocknacarra did not exist and it wasn't considered posh and there was not houses in it. It was where the upper classes went to live who had money or who wanted to be seen to have money. Again, I suggest you check with people who were around at the time.
Where did I say that I was talking about "Knocknacarra now"?
Tell me where the "Upper Classes" lived in Knocknacarra? One or two isolated houses maybe, but where were these hoards of the "upper class" who lived in Knocknacarra. Try to name me four or five families who lived in these upper class Knocknacarra areas. You won't because Knocknacarra was never "posh". It consisted of small farms and in the 19th Century less than a handful of "big" houses. Between then and now its inhabitants may have heard of "posh", but they certainly didn't live it!
To be clear, I'm asking you. I'm not going off to ask anyone else even if you "tell" me to.
Also, what in the name of God has Corrib Park to do with Knocknacarra? It's nowhere near it.
Finally, you don't know the first thing about me. So stop implying that I'm some young one that has to run off and ask someone older than me, just because I disagree with you when you're wrong.0 -
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churchview wrote: »Where did I say that I was talking about "Knocknacarra now"?
Tell me where the "Upper Classes" lived in Knocknacarra? One or two isolated houses maybe, but where were these hoards of the "upper class" who lived in Knocknacarra. Try to name me four or five families who lived in these upper class Knocknacarra areas. You won't because Knocknacarra was never "posh". It consisted of small farms and in the 19th Century less than a handful of "big" houses. Between then and now its inhabitants may have heard of "posh", but they certainly didn't live it!
To be clear, I'm asking you. I'm not going off to ask anyone else even if you "tell" me to.
Also, what in the name of God has Corrib Park to do with Knocknacarra? It's nowhere near it.
Finally, you don't know the first thing about me. So stop implying that I'm some young one that has to run off and ask someone older than me, just because I disagree with you when you're wrong.
:D I know I'm probably older than a lot on here, but apologies for the fact that I was not around in the 19th century so therefore will not try to pretend I know who lived where during that time. Whether you chose to believe it or not, Knocknacarra was considered upmarket and posh appox 30 - 40 years ago and beyond. If you actually know about Galway at all, you will realise that Galway was basically made up of estates built around the town, bohermore, claddagh, fairhill, shantalla, and much later Corrib Park/Coogan etc. Highfield Park was considered a lot "better" than places in Corrib Park/Shantalla/ as was Greenfields/Fairlands. Knocknacarra considered upmarket and people who thought they were better than others decided to purchase houses in Knocknacarra and Yes again I stress there were houses in Knocknacarra at the time - not farms - houses. again just because you didn't seem them from your bedroom window did not mean they didn't exist (unless of course you lived in a glass house LOL). I'm gettin tired of trying to explain the actual situation - again I suggest you speak to someone you trust and they will set you straight. 0
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